Russia Attacks Ukraine - 23 Feb 2022 #12

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  • #261
Speaking before his departure for London, Tusk said that “it has to be clear that … Poland is on the side of Ukraine, without any buts,” saying this was in Polish national interest.

Tusk also pointedly said that Europe should still work on “the closest possible alliance” with the US, even if the US administration’s position is “not as straightforward as ours” on the Ukraine-Russia war.

Polish Prime Minister Donald Tusk is a staunch ally of Ukraine, with Poland providing extensive military aid to Kyiv since the full-scale Russian invasion.

Polish Prime Minister Donald Tusk is a staunch ally of Ukraine, with Poland providing extensive military aid to Kyiv since the full-scale Russian invasion. Photograph: Paweł Supernak/EPA

He then went on to talk about Europe’s military awakening, calling for increased defence spending as “an additional insurance policy,” while insisting that “being self-reliant does not mean being by itself”.

“A Europe that understands its global potential, its status as a superpower, will not be an alternative to the US, but the most wanted ally. In the end, that’s what Trump wants, for Europe to take much greater responsibility for its security,” he said.

“It’s a paradox, someone rightly pointed this out, that 500 million Europeans are asking 300 million Americans to defend them from 140 millions Russians,” he said.

He then extensively quoted data from the latest report by the International Institute for Strategic Studies, showing the military advantage of Europe and Ukraine over Russia.

He also said that he would support Italian prime minister Giorgia Meloni’s plan to call an emergency EU-US summit, and urge partners to increase military presence on the eastern flank of Nato, including in Finland, the Baltics, and in Poland.

I like the idea of Europe taking its place as a superpower. Even better if they invaded the US and forced us to provide cradle to grave health care coverage to our citizens.
 
  • #262
Exactly. Zelenskyy isn’t making demands he’s just asking for clarity. If the U.S. wants Ukraine to agree to a deal, it’s only logical that they’d want to know what, if anything, is actually guaranteed.

Ukraine already tried trusting vague promises with the Budapest Memorandum, and look where that got them—Russia invaded anyway, and no one stepped in to stop it. Now people expect them to make the same mistake again, but this time with Trump, who has openly undermined NATO and cozied up to Putin? No country in their right mind should take his word for anything without clear, enforceable guarantees.
They could rename it temporary ceasefire because that’s all it is without the security guarantees.

Temporary ceasefire to give Trump enough time to get in and start “digging, digging, digging”…
 
  • #263
6m ago10.21 GMT

Russia continues deadly attacks on Ukraine as European leaders meet for crucial defence summit​

As diplomatic efforts to bring an end to the war ramp up, Russia continues to attack Ukrainian cities. Russian shelling overnight killed one person and injured two more in the eastern Ukrainian city of Kramatorsk and Russian forces attacked Ukraine with 79 drones, according to officials.

“Kramatorsk was subjected to hostile shelling - residential district,” city mayor Oleksandr Goncharenko said. “A boy born in 2006 was killed, “ he wrote on Telegram,
adding that a man and a woman were also injured.

Ukraine’s air defence units destroyed 63 of the 79 Russian drones that attacked overnight in several Ukrainian regions, the country’s air force said.

A Russian drone attack on the city of Zaporizhzhia in southwestern Ukraine injured one civilian, the governor of the broader Zaporizhzhia region, of which the city is the administrative centre, said.

Vladimir Putin, Russia’s president, has said attacks on Ukraine will continue until a deal to stop the fighting is secured that is acceptable to Moscow.

Firefighters work at a site of an apartment building hit by a Russian drone strike in Zaporizhzhia on 1 March 2025.

Firefighters work at a site of an apartment building hit by a Russian drone strike in Zaporizhzhia on 1 March 2025. Photograph: Reuters

 
  • #264
6m ago10.21 GMT

Russia continues deadly attacks on Ukraine as European leaders meet for crucial defence summit​

As diplomatic efforts to bring an end to the war ramp up, Russia continues to attack Ukrainian cities. Russian shelling overnight killed one person and injured two more in the eastern Ukrainian city of Kramatorsk and Russian forces attacked Ukraine with 79 drones, according to officials.

“Kramatorsk was subjected to hostile shelling - residential district,” city mayor Oleksandr Goncharenko said. “A boy born in 2006 was killed, “ he wrote on Telegram,
adding that a man and a woman were also injured.

Ukraine’s air defence units destroyed 63 of the 79 Russian drones that attacked overnight in several Ukrainian regions, the country’s air force said.

A Russian drone attack on the city of Zaporizhzhia in southwestern Ukraine injured one civilian, the governor of the broader Zaporizhzhia region, of which the city is the administrative centre, said.

Vladimir Putin, Russia’s president, has said attacks on Ukraine will continue until a deal to stop the fighting is secured that is acceptable to Moscow.

Firefighters work at a site of an apartment building hit by a Russian drone strike in Zaporizhzhia on 1 March 2025.

Firefighters work at a site of an apartment building hit by a Russian drone strike in Zaporizhzhia on 1 March 2025. Photograph: Reuters


Russian arrogance, despite (or maybe due to) being well aware of Europe uniting. "We are the invaders and we are not going to stop"
 
  • #265

Pro-Ukraine protests across US after Trump-Zelensky clash​

2 hours ago

Pro-Ukraine protests have taken place across the US after Donald Trump and JD Vance's angry exchange with Volodymr Zelensky at the White House.

Hundreds of people gathered in New York, Los Angeles and Boston to express their support for Ukraine after the furious row in the Oval Office.

Protesters holding pro-Ukraine signs also lined a road in Waitsfield, Vermont, where Vice-President Vance and his family were visiting for a ski holiday.

US media reported the family moved to an undisclosed location from their planned ski resort because of the demonstrations.

[…]

 
  • #266

Russia praises Trump, scolds Europe​

Laura Gozzi
Europe reporter

Russia Dmitry Lavrov stands at a podium with a microphone. He wears a blue suit and blue tie
IMAGE SOURCE, REUTERS

Interviews by Russian foreign minister Sergey Lavrov and Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov broadcast this weekend give a glimpse into how pleased Moscow is with this week's developments.

Lavrov has praised Donald Trump's pragmatic aim to end the war in Ukraine, in contrast with the "pride" that he has said plagued the previous Biden administration.

The Kremlin foreign minister has also scolded Europe for seeking to continue the conflict and says that any discussion of peacekeepers in Ukraine was "arrogant".

And in an interview apparently recorded before Zelensky's White House visit, Peskov has said the new US administration's foreign policy configurations coincided with the Russian vision "to a large extent".

He has singled out the example of the US siding with Russia in UN resolutions on Ukraine, which, Peskov says, had previously been “impossible to imagine”.

 
  • #267
US-Russia vs Ukraine-Europe.

The US could have been one of the good guys but terrible Trump is tarnishing the US and isolating it with only dictators as their friends.
 
  • #268
4m ago10.54 GMT

Kremlin says Russia's and US foreign policies are in alignment​

Kremlin spokesperson Dmitry Peskov has said the “foreign policy” alignment of the Trump administration largely mirrors that of Moscow.

“The new (US) administration is rapidly changing all foreign policy configurations. This largely coincides with our vision,” Peskov said, according to a post by state TV reporter Pavel Zarubin on Sunday on the Telegram channel.

The Kremlin’s comments come after Trump seemed to blame Kyiv for Moscow’s full-scale invasion, claiming Ukraine could have “made a deal” to avert war, and after the US last week pushed through a UN security council resolution on the war that included no criticism of Russia.

Trump, who has called Zelenskyy, the democratically elected Ukraine leader a “dictator”, without evidence, has quickly moved to direct talks with Russiathat have sidelined Ukraine and alarmed European allies.

 
  • #269
“The new (US) administration is rapidly changing all foreign policy configurations. This largely coincides with our vision,” Peskov said, according to a post by state TV reporter Pavel Zarubin on Sunday on the Telegram channel.

Well, he's not wrong. But he is certainly publicly putting Trump in an awkward position before Trump is scheduled to meet again with Starmer. Maybe reminding Trump about any deals they made in their private talks?
 
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Exactly. Zelenskyy isn’t making demands he’s just asking for clarity. If the U.S. wants Ukraine to agree to a deal, it’s only logical that they’d want to know what, if anything, is actually guaranteed.

Ukraine already tried trusting vague promises with the Budapest Memorandum, and look where that got them—Russia invaded anyway, and no one stepped in to stop it. Now people expect them to make the same mistake again, but this time with Trump, who has openly undermined NATO and cozied up to Putin? No country in their right mind should take his word for anything without clear, enforceable guarantees.
Well said. Why should Zelensky trust trump or Putin? Both have betrayed Ukraine and the agreements that the USA and Russia agreed to with regard to the Budapest memorandum.
 
  • #271

At least two killed in overnight strikes on Ukraine​


An update now on the latest from the war in Ukraine.

Russian attacks across Ukraine have killed at least two civilians and injured at least 20 over the last 24 hours, according to reports from regional authorities.

Ukraine's air defence shot down 63 of 79 drones last night, the military says in a statement on Telegram.

In Donetsk, two people were killed and seven injured in the attacks, according to the regional governor Vadym Filashkin.

Ten people, including a child, were injured in strikes against Kherson, says the regional governor, Oleksandr Prokudin.

Injuries were also recorded in the Kharkiv, Khmelnytskyi and Zaporizhzhia regions.

In a Ukrainian attack on a Russian-occupied part of the Kherson region in southern Ukraine yesterday, three people were killed and five more injured, the governor Vladimir Saldo said.

 
  • #272

EU president pledges 'surge in European defence'​


European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen walks ahead, holding folders, wearing a blazer. Several people are gathered behind her.
IMAGE SOURCE, EPA-EFE/REX/SHUTTERSTOCK

We can now bring you the latest remarks from the President of the European Commission, Ursula von der Leyen, ahead of a summit in central London today.

"On my way to London to highlight Europe’s ongoing support to Ukraine that can lead to just and lasting peace in Ukraine," she says in a post on X.

"The path to peace is strength. Weakness breeds more war. We will support Ukraine, while undertaking a surge in European defence," the EU president adds.

As a reminder: Leaders from Europe and Canada are gathering in London later today to discuss the war in Ukraine, days after Zelensky and Trump clashed in the White House




1m ago11.21 GMT
The European Commission president, Ursula von der Leyen, says she will “highlight Europe’s ongoing support to Ukraine” during the London defence summit.

In a post on X, von der Leyen wrote:
On my way to London to highlight Europe’s ongoing support to Ukraine that can lead to just and lasting peace in Ukraine.

The path to peace is strength. Weakness breeds more war. We will support Ukraine, while undertaking a surge in European defence.

The European Commission president last week announced that the bloc will allocate €3.5bn to Ukraine in March.

 
  • #273
Russian response to the White House meeting with Zelensky suggests peace is not really on the cards with Russia - any deal would have to be in Russia's favour.

I don't think Zelensky's life would be safe in Ukraine after any peace deal, even with "secure borders" somehow. He would be bumped off somehow.

Assuming it wasn't intentional, Trump has unfortunately pleased those in Russia by televising that whole charade. Zelensky was called an "ignorant pig"

JMO MOO

"Former Russian President Dmitry Medvedev, who is now deputy head of Russia's Security Council, called Zelensky an "insolent pig" who had received "a proper slap down in the Oval Office".

Oh, I'm pretty sure it was intentional!
 
  • #274
Peskov has said the new US administration's foreign policy configurations coincided with the Russian vision "to a large extent".

He has singled out the example of the US siding with Russia in UN resolutions on Ukraine, which, Peskov says, had previously been “impossible to imagine”.
I will never understand how anyone in the U.S. can be OK with this shift toward Russia. I agree with Peskov that it has been “Impossible to imagine.” Russia can never be trusted. It has always had malevolent intentions toward the U.S. but the current administration is just opening the cybersecurity door for Russia to walk right in and do harm. What is going on? And why?

Some cybersecurity experts criticized the move. “How much more proof do we need that this administration is completely compromised?” cybercrime and security investigative journalist Brian Krebs wrote on infosec.exchange. “There is zero reason for the US to relax any offensive digital actions against Russia. If anything, we should be applying more.”
 
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Good men are no where the whitehouse at this time, but letttt's see who becomes not an evil follower and is loud and proud about it as a few are, few.

Amen to that! And if there are any good men, they are too scared to stand up and be counted :(. JMO
 
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Amen to that! And if there are any good men, they are too scared to stand up and be counted :(. JMO

I think it is the American people who will have to stand up and be counted. The public. Like the ones who are now demonstrating .... but on an even larger scale. And they will have to keep it up for as long as it takes.

They will need to relentlessly write to their representatives, and picket, and protest. People power. Similar to the civil rights movement, and the anti-Vietnam war movement. Many/most of their representatives are failing them.

imo
 
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February 26, 2025

Following a series of intensive negotiations, Washington and Kyiv agreed on a deal to establish a fund to which Ukraine will contribute 50% of proceeds from the "future monetization" of state-owned mineral resources, including oil, gas, and logistics infrastructure.

Ukraine's Cabinet of Ministers approved the decision to sign the mineral resources agreement on Feb. 26, Prime Minister Denys Shmyhal said.

Wed 26 Feb 2025 18.41 GMT

Donald Trump has announced that Volodymyr Zelenskyy will visit the White House on Friday to sign a rare earth minerals deal, but the US will not provide significant security guarantees to Ukraine as part of the agreement.

The conclusion of a deal, which Trump has claimed would allow the US to recoup hundreds of billions of dollars it spent on military aid to Kyiv, followed days of intense negotiations in which Zelenskyy said he wanted the US to guarantee Ukraine’s security against the ongoing Russian invasion.

Uncertainty remains over the specifics of the agreement, which would establish a joint fund between the US and Ukraine that would receive revenues from the mining of rare earth metals and other precious minerals in Ukraine, as well as some oil and gas revenues.

Trump announced during a cabinet meeting on Wednesday that he could confirm that Zelenskyy would arrive in Washington on Friday to sign the deal, calling it a “very big agreement that will be on rare earth and other things”.

Zelenskyy had resisted pressure from the US to sign a draft of the deal at the Munich Security Conference earlier this month that would have established a joint fund 100% owned by the US, according to media reports. “I will not sign what 10 generations of Ukrainians will have to pay back,” he said at a news conference on Sunday.

Media reports suggested the draft contained only vague language on security guarantees.

Zelenskyy described the deal as “preliminary”, adding that it was “just a start, a framework, it can be a big success”.

The Ukrainian leader said that if he visited the White House on Friday, he would be “very direct” in asking whether the US would continue supporting Ukraine or not. “If we don’t get security guarantees, we won’t have a ceasefire, nothing will work, nothing,” he said.


 
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  • #280
Too many people missed the memo how and when the invasion started and how Russia was and continues to be stood up to. The horrific bombing of hospitals, schools directly and purposefully. The torturing and rape of elderly women and men, children. Snipering old men on their bikes carrying a little food back to home. The visuals have been shown around the world. P directed this on civilians from day one. Hard to forget and obviously not forgotten, just a reminder for some. No matter.

Yes! Didn't Putin also say at the beginning he would be in and out within a week, he wasn't waging a war, he wouldn't hit civilian targets, blah blah blah, obviously I'm going from memory and may have some of the details wrong (although apparently I can say whatever I want and then it becomes true ;)) but I distinctly remember that he outright lied and bulldozed over everything he promised, but hey that's ok, this time his word is his bond, his good friend (for friend, see puppet) Don says so. It's all good!.

JMO but will be back with links if I can find them.
 
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