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Russia Attacks Ukraine - 23 Feb 2022 #12
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The reality is that we, in the U.S., don't want to be engaged in a proxy war with Russia, as the Biden and his ilk did. So, yes, our administration is looking for a way to end the war and if Zelensky isn't interested in working with us to achieve this goal, he should go ahead and look for other options, but not waste our time. He not only misread the room, but the will of the American people.
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Yes, it's abundantly clear the US is now only interested in the US. Trump should stop wasting the world's time by cosplaying as a 'peacemaker'.
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Hopefully you are safe from Trump's efforts to expel all foreigners and their offspring from the USA!
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It is only illegal immigrants who are being deported. Those of us who came here legally are fine.
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Russia is spreading disinformation that accuses Ukraine's military intelligence (HUR) of trying to instigate an armed conflict between Armenia and Azerbaijan, HUR said on March 2.
www.theguardian.com
1h ago12.24 EST
He confirms plans to assemble “a coalition of the willing” to enforce any peace deal, with the UK set to take a leading role.
51m ago12.31 EST
He says he accepts “the position of other countries that may not feel that they want to contribute in that way,” but he believes it is necessary to “move forward” and “get some momentum” for peace talks.
48m ago12.34 EST
47m ago12.35 EST
UK and France to work with Ukraine on peace plan, Starmer says, as European leaders arrive for defence summit – live
Ukrainian president Volodymyr Zelenskyy to join European, Canadian and Turkish leaders for summit
Starmer confirms plans for ‘coalition of willing’ to police any deal in Ukraine
Starmer says that leaders agreed to keep the military aid flowing and increasing the economic pressure on Russia, and they will insist that Ukraine needs to be at the table for any peace talks.He confirms plans to assemble “a coalition of the willing” to enforce any peace deal, with the UK set to take a leading role.
51m ago12.31 EST
Starmer: Multiple countries interested in joining mission in Ukraine
Starmer says “a number of countries” indicates they were willing to join the coalition of willing, but says it is up to them to announce that.He says he accepts “the position of other countries that may not feel that they want to contribute in that way,” but he believes it is necessary to “move forward” and “get some momentum” for peace talks.
48m ago12.34 EST
Starmer suggests UK-led plan was discussed with Trump
Asked about the US response to what he is proposing, Starmer hints that he discussed this with US president, Donald Trump, in their phone call last night.47m ago12.35 EST
Any deal will need to involve Russia, Starmer says
Starmer says that any final deal “will have to involve Russia”, but it should not dictate the guarantees that can be offered to Ukraine given the history of Russian breaches in the past.
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Canada has had peacekeeping troops on the Ukraine border for years. They cannot enter Ukraine for two reasons: they are peacekeepers (as usual) and they are NATO. NATO cannot fight in Ukraine at this time.
Canada isn't asking the USA to do anything because the USA president loses the ability to form a coherent sentence in the presence of the Canadian Prime Minister. He resorts to confusions such as calling him a "governor", calls a sovereign country a "state", and his verbal babbling is restricted to words such as nasty, mean, thief, unfair, taking advantage and other personal slurs. He plays the role of a pathetic victim. He is incapable of responding to an idea or concept. Canada is wise to steer clear of a confused man like that.
Yes, as soon as the voice of Trump supporters echoes word for word the voice of Russia, then Trump's followers align with Russia.
"Russia's Foreign Ministry spokesperson described the Oval Office blowout as a "complete political and diplomatic failure" for Kyiv.
Zakharova said Russia's war aims remain unchanged, implying Moscow will insist on a demilitarized Ukraine barred from NATO, and on annexing Ukrainian territories it controls."
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UK and France to work with Ukraine on peace plan, Starmer says, as European leaders arrive for defence summit – live
Ukrainian president Volodymyr Zelenskyy to join European, Canadian and Turkish leaders for summit
West will not surrender to Putin's blackmail, Poland's Tusk says
Polish prime minister Donald Tusk hailed the meeting as “historic,” and said it came at a time of “a great challenge for entire Europe, not just the EU and Ukraine.”He said there was “no doubt who is the aggressor and who is the aggressed, and who has got Europe on their side, but confirmed there was talk about “taking on more responsibility” for military and defence funding by European countries.
He repeated that Poland is Nato’s top spender with 4.7% GDP, and added that he was happy “that more and more countries go beyond words and declarations … to increase spending.”
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Yep, that’s weird. My people were expelled from Nova Scotia. I’m not a victim of anyone.
ETA There’s a difference between legal and illegal. imo
Acadienne here, too, @bayoubelle!
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My husband is 1nd generation American Ukrainian, he was born here, his parents were not...he is also a veteran. He thinks that this problem needs to be solved in Europe. It is a European problem.
Putin won't stop his meglomania, seeing a post WW II Russia. He is an old timer, and really, needs to be gone. He wants all of the satellite countries back.
Putin won't stop his meglomania, seeing a post WW II Russia. He is an old timer, and really, needs to be gone. He wants all of the satellite countries back.
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UK and France to work with Ukraine on peace plan, Starmer says, as European leaders arrive for defence summit – live
Ukrainian president Volodymyr Zelenskyy to join European, Canadian and Turkish leaders for summit
Tusk says allies need more developed plan for peace negotiations
Poland’s Tusk also spoke about the need to propose a format for Europe, Turkey and Canada to get involved to put together “a concrete plan for negotiations” with Russia.“We all get a sense at this moment that no one has a plan for it, and that sense of chaos, makeshift approach … sometimes sparks emotions like we have seen in that unseemly spectacle in Washington a few days ago, which we all would rather avoid,” he said.
21m ago18.27 GMT
'Everything is on the table,' Trudeau says when asked about Canada's troops in Ukraine
Canada’s Trudeau says the country “has been one of the strongest countries in support of Ukraine from the beginning,” having trained “up to 40,000 Ukrainian troops.”Trudeau also says he will meet with British King Charles III on Monday, and will discuss issues of importance.
18m ago18.31 GMT
Canada's Trudeau backs Zelenskyy's comments
[...]"Russia continues to try to fight to claim more land in Ukraine.
We could see an end to this war tomorrow if Russia decided to stop its illegal invasion of Ukraine.
On Friday in the Oval Office, President Zelensky pointed out in so many words that Vladimir Putin is a liar and a criminal and cannot be trusted to keep his word in any way, shape or form, because he has demonstrated time and time again that he will break any agreements.
I stand with Vladimir Zelensky and I stand with the people of Ukraine."
When Putin invaded Ukraine, the US offered to evacuate Zelensky, but he refused, saying: I need ammunition, not a ride. He has not abandoned his country. He is a brave president.
If he had accepted the offer, Ukraine would no longer exist and would have been in Putin's hands long ago. That is not what Ukrainians want.
I know what Trump would have done.
JMO
If he had accepted the offer, Ukraine would no longer exist and would have been in Putin's hands long ago. That is not what Ukrainians want.
I know what Trump would have done.
JMO
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Tusk, A nicer Donald.
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UK and France to work with Ukraine on peace plan, Starmer says, as European leaders arrive for defence summit – live
Ukrainian president Volodymyr Zelenskyy to join European, Canadian and Turkish leaders for summit
European Council president António Costa has also offered his reaction after leaving Lancaster House.
The European Union is ready to work with all our European partners and other allies in the peace plan [for] Ukraine that ensure a just and lasting peace for Ukrainian people.
We must learn from the past. We cannot repeat the Minsk experience. We cannot repeat at all Afghanistan’s tragedy, and we need for this strong security guarantees and peace making go hand in hand with peacekeeping.
8m ago18.46 GMT
Dutch prime minister Dick Schoof has posted a social media update with his thoughts after today’s summit.
He said that “a safe Ukraine is in the interest of all of Europe and therefore also of the Netherlands,” as he said that European unity is “more important then ever.”
He called for “continued support for Ukraine,” and a European plan for “robust security guarantees” and deterrence against Russia.
What does ones personal nationality have to do with excusing tacky behavior to a guest?
If Trump et al want nothing to do with Ukraine then say so.
Cancel the meeting and go on with your agenda.
It's Vance's hysteria, Trump losing control of the floor as host and the inaction of Marco Rubio, the Secretary of State, that sunk their ship in global eyes.
All imo
If Trump et al want nothing to do with Ukraine then say so.
Cancel the meeting and go on with your agenda.
It's Vance's hysteria, Trump losing control of the floor as host and the inaction of Marco Rubio, the Secretary of State, that sunk their ship in global eyes.
All imo
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ISW: US cutting Ukraine aid would embolden the global Russia-led bloc — China, Iran, North Korea —and signal that American security guarantees are unreliable.
Ukrainian joke fundraiser for domestic "nuclear weapons" raised millions in hours after tense Ukraine-US presidential talks. Actually, the funds will support drone procurement.The Ukrainian banker's fundraiser collected 27.2 million hryvnias ($650,000) from 70,000 donors across 61 countries in just 20 hours, demonstrating widespread security anxieties amid Russian aggression.Polling indicates that 73% of Ukrainians favor restoring the nuclear status their country relinquished under the Budapest Memorandum in the 1990s in exchange for "Ukraine's security" from the signatory states, including Russia.https://euromaidanpress.com/2025/03/02/ukrainian-joke-fundraiser-for-nukesraises-millions-in-hours-after-zelenskyy-trump-dispute/
Macron: "The manifest destiny of Americans is to be on the side of Ukrainians. Disengagement from Ukraine is not in their [American] interest."The French president urged continued US support for Ukraine amid growing tensions.
Ukrainian joke fundraiser for domestic "nuclear weapons" raised millions in hours after tense Ukraine-US presidential talks. Actually, the funds will support drone procurement.The Ukrainian banker's fundraiser collected 27.2 million hryvnias ($650,000) from 70,000 donors across 61 countries in just 20 hours, demonstrating widespread security anxieties amid Russian aggression.Polling indicates that 73% of Ukrainians favor restoring the nuclear status their country relinquished under the Budapest Memorandum in the 1990s in exchange for "Ukraine's security" from the signatory states, including Russia.https://euromaidanpress.com/2025/03/02/ukrainian-joke-fundraiser-for-nukesraises-millions-in-hours-after-zelenskyy-trump-dispute/
Macron: "The manifest destiny of Americans is to be on the side of Ukrainians. Disengagement from Ukraine is not in their [American] interest."The French president urged continued US support for Ukraine amid growing tensions.
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UK and France to work with Ukraine on peace plan, Starmer says, as European leaders arrive for defence summit – live
Ukrainian president Volodymyr Zelenskyy to join European, Canadian and Turkish leaders for summit
What we know after London summit – summary
- British prime minister, Keir Starmer, has announced details of a new £1.6bn export finance contract for Ukraine allowing it “to buy more than 5,000 air defence missiles” to help the country’s defence against Russia after a London summit with European, Turkish and Canadian leaders.
- Starmer also confirmed plans to form “a coalition of the willing” to enforce a potential peace deal in Ukraine, which he said the UK was prepared “to back with boots on the ground and planes in the air”.
- Starmer insisted the US under Donald Trump was still a reliable ally, and hinted that he talked about his plans with the US president.
- Nato secretary general, Mark Rutte, said a number of Nato countries signalled their plans to increase defence spending, as he urged media to “stop gossiping about what the US might or might not do”, and insisted the country remained committed to Nato.
- European Commission president, Ursula von der Leyen, said there was a growing realisation that we “urgently have to re-arm Europe”, and said Europeans wanted to work on “basically turning Ukraine into a steel porcupine that is indigestible for potential invaders”.
- Polish prime minister, Donald Tusk, said he hoped the EU’s plans to be unveiled next week would “send a very clear impulse showing Putin and Russia that no one here, in the west, intends to surrender to his blackmail and aggression”.
- But Tusk revealed that the allied countries were not fully aligned on seizing Russian assets in the west, as some countries “feared the consequences either for the euro or the banking system”.
- Canadian prime minister, Justin Trudeau, offered a passionate defence of Ukrainian president, Volodymyr Zelenskyy, saying that in his comments in the Oval Office on Friday “he pointed out in so many words that Vladimir Putin is a liar and a criminal and cannot be trusted to keep his word in any way”.
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