Russia Attacks Ukraine - 23 Feb 2022 #12

[PommyMommy]

Russia agrees to help US in negotiations with Iran over nuclear program, Bloomberg reports.

Donald Trump voiced his interest in negotiations with Iran to Vladimir Putin during their phone call in February.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1896920121924530634

US suspends military aid to Ukraine in pressure campaign for peace talks.

The U.S. has suspended military aid to Ukraine as part of a pressure campaign to push Zelensky toward negotiations with Russia, Trump’s senior adviser Jason Miller said.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1896933171448754516

Trump suspends all military aid to Ukraine, pressuring Zelenskyy on peace talks

The US President halted all military aid to Ukraine, including weapons in transit.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1896870761089954280

 

[PommyMommy]

Senior adviser: US aid pause would be “crippling” for Ukraine

Military analysts predict Ukraine has only two to four months before feeling severe impacts from President Trump’s decision to halt US military assistance

https://twitter.com/x/status/1896885854825525639

ISW: Russian military recruitment surpasses targets due to financial incentives and prison recruitment

Western aid could deepen Russia’s economic and military strain, pushing Putin toward meaningful negotiations in 2025, ISW says.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1896910503844130983

Russia sending "suicidal missions" to gain foothold near Kherson, regional leader says

Russians, under orders to secure more ground for potential peace talks, attempted crossings at four Dnipro River locations, says Kherson Oblast head Oleksandr Prokudin.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1896918053482308008

 

[PommyMommy]

Finland doubts Trump's pivot towards Moscow will end Russo-Ukrainian war

FM Elina Valtonen suggested that appeasing Moscow rather than pressuring it won't bring peace to Ukraine.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1896933148585292046

Ukraine’s PM: Ukraine determined to continue cooperation with the US

Despite reports of halted US military aid, Ukraine will continue diplomatic efforts with the US, Congress and the Trump administartion to ensure a fair and lasting peace in Ukraine

https://twitter.com/x/status/1896938843724718374

Poland says US suspended Ukraine aid without NATO or Ramstein consultations

Trump's decision is "not good news," according to the country's defense minister.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1896940699091656963

 

[PommyMommy]

Trump vows to JAIL students for protesting.

Federal funding will be cut for colleges and universities that “allow illegal protests.”

https://twitter.com/x/status/1896926957897695471

EU chief Ursula von der Leyen unveiled a plan to mobilise €800 billion for Europe’s defence — and help provide IMMEDIATE military support for Ukraine after Trump suspended aid.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1896861744108286095

Polish PM Tusk confirms that all US arms deliveries to Ukraine through Poland have been STOPPED.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1896916105089941669

 

[Marantz4250b]

Trump vows to JAIL students for protesting.

Federal funding will be cut for colleges and universities that “allow illegal protests.”

https://twitter.com/x/status/1896926957897695471

EU chief Ursula von der Leyen unveiled a plan to mobilise €800 billion for Europe’s defence — and help provide IMMEDIATE military support for Ukraine after Trump suspended aid.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1896861744108286095

Polish PM Tusk confirms that all US arms deliveries to Ukraine through Poland have been STOPPED.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1896916105089941669

So - the Free World is concentrating on kicking a dictator out of his neighbour and back to his own country while the leader of "some random country" which used to be part of it is concerned with wrecking Amendment No.1 to his country's constitution because he doesn't like being called nasty names!

I wonder whether he intends to erase them in chronological order?

 

[Lucy6226]

Trump vows to JAIL students for protesting.

Federal funding will be cut for colleges and universities that “allow illegal protests.”

https://twitter.com/x/status/1896926957897695471

EU chief Ursula von der Leyen unveiled a plan to mobilise €800 billion for Europe’s defence — and help provide IMMEDIATE military support for Ukraine after Trump suspended aid.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1896861744108286095

Polish PM Tusk confirms that all US arms deliveries to Ukraine through Poland have been STOPPED.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1896916105089941669

From link in quote above:-

'Trump vows to JAIL students for protesting.
Federal funding will be cut for colleges and universities that allow illegal protests'

Sorry, what was that about free speech again??

 

[JennieM]

4m ago15.51 GMT

Volodymyr Zelenskyy says he is ready to work under Trump's 'strong leadership'​

Ukrainian president Volodymyr Zelenskyy has said he is ready to sign a minerals and security agreement with the United States and to work under president Donald Trump’s “strong leadership”.

While admitting his meeting with president Donald Trump “did not go the way it was supposed to”, Zelenskyy reiterated Ukraine’s commitment to peace and praised Trump for providing his military with Javelins.

In a statement released on X, he said:

I would like to reiterate Ukraine’s commitment to peace.None of us wants an endless war. Ukraine is ready to come to the negotiating table as soon as possible to bring lasting peace closer. Nobody wants peace more than Ukrainians. My team and I stand ready to work under President Trump’s strong leadership to get a peace that lasts.

We are ready to work fast to end the war, and the first stages could be the release of prisoners and truce in the sky – ban on missiles, long-ranged drones, bombs on energy and other civilian infrastructure – and truce in the sea immediately, if Russia will do the same. Then we want to move very fast through all next stages and to work with the US to agree a strong final deal.

He added:

We do really value how much America has done to help Ukraine maintain its sovereignty and independence. And we remember the moment when things changed when President Trump provided Ukraine with Javelins. We are grateful for this.

Our meeting in Washington, at the White House on Friday, did not go the way it was supposed to be. It is regrettable that it happened this way. It is time to make things right. We would like future cooperation and communication to be constructive.

Regarding the agreement on minerals and security, Ukraine is ready to sign it in any time and in any convenient format. We see this agreement as a step toward greater security and solid security guarantees, and I truly hope it will work effectively.

US and Ukraine ‘preparing to sign minerals deal on Tuesday’, reports suggest – as it happened

Zelenskyy says his country is ready to sign minerals and security agreement while admitting White House meeting ‘did not go the way it was supposed to’

www.theguardian.com

 

[JennieM]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1896948147085049916

 

[JennieM]

5m ago16.14 GMT
French prime minister François Bayrou has said that the US suspending weapons aid to Ukraine in the middle of the war signals that the US is “abandoning” Ukraine.

Bayrou also said it would allow Russia, the aggressor, “to win” and that it is now Europe’s responsibility to replace American weapon deliveries as “quickly and efficiently as possible so that Ukraine does not crack”.

More on these lines to follow as they come in.

US and Ukraine ‘preparing to sign minerals deal on Tuesday’, reports suggest – as it happened

Zelenskyy says his country is ready to sign minerals and security agreement while admitting White House meeting ‘did not go the way it was supposed to’

www.theguardian.com

 

[Sundog]

From link in quote above:-

'Trump vows to JAIL students for protesting.
Federal funding will be cut for colleges and universities that allow illegal protests'

Sorry, what was that about free speech again??

The U.S. Department of Justice will bring charges against people on college and university campuses who intimidate and stop Jewish students from going to classes, and support terrorist organizations and protest ILLEGALLY. This has nothing to do with legal protests. Terrorist organizations are those terrorist organizations that have been defined as such by the U.S. government over the years. Including Hamas. International students who come here to support terrorism will be deported. This all makes sense to most of us here in the U.S. Hate speech is a crime in the U.S., and Jewish students on our campuses will now be protected by our Department of Justice, as they should be.

 

[CaMan60]

While admitting his meeting with president Donald Trump “did not go the way it was supposed to”, Zelenskyy reiterated Ukraine’s commitment to peace and praised Trump for providing his military with Javelins.

Well this is great news. Lets get on the path to Peace.
Sadly other social media Sites are ganging up on the US GOP. It is a good sign that both sides of a topic are discussed here, on this forum.

 

[Rush4087]

If anyone is trying to start ww3, it is Trump with his alliance with Russia. Despicable man, despicable leader.

Just your opinion

 

[Simply Southern]

From link in quote above:-

'Trump vows to JAIL students for protesting.
Federal funding will be cut for colleges and universities that allow illegal protests'

Sorry, what was that about free speech again??

They have free speech. What they don't have the right to, disrupt classes, physical violence and destruction and suppression of religious rights.

I clearly remember last year. Students holding buildings hostage, blocking students from dormitories, classrooms and even the cafeteria. Setting fire on campuses, burning flags, spray painting buildings, camping out for days and monuments. These actions are illegal and should be prosecuted.

Students are at college to go to school learn and receiving education. They do have the right to express themselves, they do not have the right to physically force their viewpoint on another.

I don't want my taxpayer dollar going to a school that allows this.
Moo...

 

[JennieM]

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Keir Starmer Says He Is “Full Of Admiration” For British Troops After JD Vance Remarks​

Asked about the vice president's comments this morning, the Prime Minister's spokesperson said that British troops' "courage and bravery has helped to ensure global security".

"The Prime Minister - and I think the whole country - is full of admiration for all British troops who have served for instance in Iraq and Afghanistan, many of whom have lost their lives in the process and fought obviously alongside allies including the United States," the Prime Minister's spokesperson told reporters this morning.

"It's very clear that their courage and bravery have helped to ensure global security, defend our values, defend our national interests so our focus once again is on how we protect our national interests and global security by progressing discussions to secure lasting peace for Ukraine."

Keir Starmer Says He Is “Full Of Admiration” For British Troops After JD Vance Remarks

Keir Starmer is 'full of admiration for all British troops' who have served their country, the Prime Minister's spokesperson has said.

www.politicshome.com

Anger over Vance 'random country' peacekeeping remark​

UK opposition politicians accused JD Vance of disrespecting British forces after he said a US stake in Ukraine's economy was a "better security guarantee than 20,000 troops from some random country that hasn't fought a war in 30 or 40 years".

[…]

Conservative shadow defence secretary James Cartlidge pointed out both the UK and France deployed forces alongside the US in Afghanistan, adding: "It's deeply disrespectful to ignore such service and sacrifice."

Asked about Vance's comments later, Conservative leader Kemi Badenoch said the vice-president did not call Britain a "random country".

"A lot of people are getting carried away. They're saying loads of things and getting quite animated. Let's keep cool heads," she said.

Reform UK leader Nigel Farage said Vance was "wrong, wrong, wrong", adding that the UK "stood by America" for 20 years in Afghanistan.

Liberal Democrat defence spokesperson Helen Maguire, a former captain in the Royal Military Police who served in Iraq, urged the UK's ambassador to the US, Peter Mandelson, to call on Vance to apologise for the comments.

"JD Vance is erasing from history the hundreds of British troops who gave their lives in Iraq and Afghanistan," she said.

"I saw first hand how American and British soldiers fought bravely together shoulder to shoulder. Six of my own regiment, the Royal Military Police, didn't return home from Iraq. This is a sinister attempt to deny that reality."

Anger over JD Vance 'random country' peacekeeping remark

The US vice-president faces criticism after saying troops from "some random country" will not deter Russia.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[Vern]

That is unfortunately quite correct.

Indeed.

And meanwhile, this aged like milk in August:

Vance says US working on’Ukraine plan ‘with the Russians’

Vice President JD Vance on Monday said Trump administration officials are already in talks with Russia to end the years-long war Russia launched against Ukraine, and warned that Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky needs to accept Donald Trump’s terms for a mineral rights deal and enter...

www.independent.co.uk

 

[Stella123]

Vance calls the Uk "some random country" that hasn't fought a war in 30 or 40 years. He really does need knocking down a peg or two doesn't he? What exactly is a "random" country anyway lol. Butwe know he meant to undermine the Uk. JMO

"The US vice-president has sparked a row with his comments about a potential peacekeeping force in Ukraine.

he said a US stake in Ukraine's economy was a "better security guarantee than 20,000 troops from some random country that hasn't fought a war in 30 or 40 years".

Anger over JD Vance 'random country' peacekeeping remark

The US vice-president faces criticism after saying troops from "some random country" will not deter Russia.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[Sundog]

They have free speech. What they don't have the right to, disrupt classes, physical violence and destruction and suppression of religious rights.

I clearly remember last year. Students holding buildings hostage, blocking students from dormitories, classrooms and even the cafeteria. Setting fire on campuses, burning flags, spray painting buildings, camping out for days and monuments. These actions are illegal and should be prosecuted.

Students are at college to go to school learn and receiving education. They do have the right to express themselves, they do not have the right to physically force their viewpoint on another.

I don't want my taxpayer dollar going to a school that allows this.
Moo...

Anti-Semitism has been rampant on our campuses and the U.S. Department of Education's Office of Civil Rights will now crack down on colleges and universities that fail to protect Jewish students on their campuses. By withholding federal funding, this will go a long way to ensure that leaders on our campuses protect students who are the victims of discrimination.

 

[Stella123]

"The US vice president was accused of "disrespecting" British forces who served alongside the US in Iraq and Afghanistan, with a former veterans minister branding him a "clown" who needs to "check his privilege".

He was indeed insulting British soldiers who helped the US in Iraq.

JD Vance denies insulting British troops over 'random country' jibe

Senior politicians interpret JD Vance's dismissal of peacekeeping troops as a dig at the UK and France - but the US vice president insists he was not referring to these two allies.

news.sky.com

 

[Stella123]

"Shadow Defence Secretary James Cartlidge responded sharply to Vance, pointing out that Nato's Article 5 has only been invoked once - by the US after the 9/11 attacks.

He wrote on X: "And [Britain] came to their aid deploying 1,000s of personnel to Afghanistan, including my own brother and numerous parliamentary colleagues, past and present.

"It's deeply disrespectful to ignore such service & sacrifice."

JD Vance branded 'deeply disrespectful' after DISMISSING Britain as 'random country that hasn't fought for 40 years' despite Afghan deployment

European leaders held crisis talks over the Ukraine war on Sunday

www.gbnews.com

What is it with politicians like JD Vance who use such non politican-like insulting language?! Surely he is not a politician at all! JMO MOO

 

[Simply Southern]

I've seen nothing has changed today, for the exception of US stopping aid.

Zelensky has NOT apologize to our president or the American citizens who have financially supported his war. He is still not thanked the US for all we've done. It's really hard to keep giving to somebody so ungrateful.

I see European countries are still thinking about, stepping up, supporting, but no action. They meant Saturday and Sunday. Lots of hugs, pats on the back, a trip to see the King, but no plan. Everyone still thinking about it. They do have plans, to make a plan. They've talked about doing more financially. They did put up 2 billion to purchase missiles, that still needs to be manufacturer. Anybody got a timeline on how long it takes to make these.

If I lived in Europe, I'd really be concerned. The leaders of this country are all talk and no action. If something major did happen, how many weeks would it take them to meet, support, and take action When you run a government you got to be ready to act instantly.

European countries, should have stockpiles of equipment, missiles and ammunition own hand for immediate use. Clearly there is no offer to dip into the stockpile, and leads me to believe there is no stockpile.

Clearly Putin and the rest of the world see how unprepared European countries are. No an action plan, no ready to go in any and all emergencies. They still have little commitment for boots on the ground. Most of the financial commitments are in the future. No immediate readily available funding, weapons or supplies.

Instead of getting on social media and complaining about the US stopping aid. They should be saying don't worry. We have got you covered. We've got stockpiles of supplies, food and other immediate need items. No they're all sitting around talking, posting on Twitter, speaking in the media, about how bad the US is.

I have to laugh. These countries are so ill prepared for an emergency, immediate attack on their Homeland, and lack the ability to cohesively pull themselves together and assist one little country. Europe is at grave risk by being unprepared.

Proud, happy, an extremely thankful to live in the United States of America. We believe in being prepared.

Saw the first new ad from the DOD for marine recruitment, last night. You know we didn't recruit under the previous administration. Made me so proud, had tears in my eyes watching those young folks in uniforms, knowing they are ready on a moment's notice to defend our freedom.

My opinion only, European country's need to get there act together. They clearly showed their soft spot and weaknesses this past weekend.

Moo