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So you really have an issue with the US Constitution? There are very good reasons it is written the way it is.

They don't even need to new evidence AFAIK.

I think the DT poked more holes in the PT's theories this time. I will personally be surprised with G of M1. I could see a G of M2 as a compromise, but I think its most likely going to be hung.

How about the vote from the first JY trial. Kind of opposite results from BC. 90% of voters through a guilty verdict would be returned but the Jury was 8-4 NG. Guilty or Not Guilty? - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community JLY is GUILTY and will be found guilty 67 88.16% JLY is...

For me, I would say there is about a 75% chance he is guilty, but that does not meet my personal level of being moral satisfied to enter a guilty verdict. Thus I a presume he is innocent and I would have to vote this way.

This is my basic position too. While it seems like he could have done it, there is not enough CE for me to lock him up for life.

How have we all missed this. I thought part of the states timeline is JY coming back in the (unlocked) side door after the rock is kicked out. I guess they could say he still had it propped with a twig that wasn't kicked out?

These side doors are often open at hotels during daylight hours.

One possibility would be another guest exiting one of those side doors. Was there actual testimony that the side door was locked 24/7? Many hotels do not lock these doors 24/7, only while the sun is down.

Hung jury is most likely outcome. Going to be hard to get 12 people to agree on this. One thing, the extra 2nd degree charge will make the verdict reading even more dramatic!

BC...

Jury coming back in.

So being assigned as a public defender and then doing his job somehow hurts his election chances?

I know a lot of you think this is terrible, but I personally think this closing is pretty solid. They are pointing out the weaknesses in the PT's case, introducing alternate possibilities for most of the CE, pointing out that there are many more than ~200 sole with that same design, etc...

The judge will give them a direct charge to not take his silence into account. Listen to the charges from the jury from last time. It is very clear they are not to consider it when deciding his guilt.

The jury will be instructed by the judge that they are not to hold his silence against him. FWIW.

I'm currently unable tO watch or follow the trial closely... Does anyone know if the hp shoe employee testify about size 12 orbitals or size 12 HP shoes with that sole design? IMO that if the testimony was that there were only ~195 orbitals that is not as impactfuk as there were at least 2...

Was there ever any testimony given to how many pairs of HP shoes were with that same sole? Not how many size 12 Orbitals, but how many size 12 HP shoes have been made with that sole design. I didn't hear it but it sounds like the witness testified that only 195 pairs of Orbitals were made, not...

Even when he drives? When I go on trips in the car, I just grab all the shoes I normally wear and toss them all in the car because I have plenty of room and its easier than thinking about which ones to bring. 3-4 pairs is normal IMO.

Well the start of this witness was good or maybe even great for the Pros, but in cross things sort of went downhill IMO