2011.04.06 Frye Hearing Thread

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  • #261
Does anyone follow this on Twitter? If so what is the best @ to follow?

I check here on first page and seen no links. Thanks.
 
  • #262
hhjp is having to read the whole thing to the dt! amazing~
 
  • #263
HHBP: science in litigation science. Rule in Federal rules of evidence
Section 4 - intrepreting science data,
Section 5 - anaylsis of hair, control substances, paint & coating
Section 6 - methods of forensic science
7 -
8 - education and training
 
  • #264
HHJP giving a reading lecture about what the four prongs are - listing off what is and is not acceptable.....not looking patient....
Mr. Ashton has a valid point and question will be sustained unless you have a valid point - DS still going on and on...
 
  • #265
The defense always seems to try to cite case law that simply does not apply. :banghead::banghead:
 
  • #266
Wow...when the Judge reads to you like a bedtime story....just sit down.
 
  • #267
objection will be sustained unless dt can speak to one of the four prongs
 
  • #268
The judge is speaking: what is forensic science, next the forensic community, three: in evidence in litigation law and science. A section that talks about the frye standard, and a decision that is not valid in fl but judge says is interesting.

section four: interpreting scienctific data,...listing each section...

section six: performance in forensic science
eight: education and training
nine: med examiners
ten: finger print and homeland security

unless you have a specific section of this article which has some relvance of what you want to read...table of contents.
 
  • #269
Objection sustained!!!!!!!!
 
  • #270
HHBP: under Rameriz vs. state outline parts that courts are required to have all
four prongs. I am simply talking about Rameriz 2 . . . . . 1995 decision

JB & DS looking for papers

HHBP: curious as to the 4 steps we talked about . . . which one of the 4 or all 4 discovery?
DS: Number 1 - assist jury to understand the evidence, scientific expertise and methodolgoy
#2 the trial judge must decide on scientific principle -there are requirements/steps to gain certain acceptance

found the appellate document
http://vlex.com/vid/joseph-j-ramirez-vs-state-florida-appellee-20847844
 
  • #271
Does anyone follow this on Twitter? If so what is the best @ to follow?

I check here on first page and seen no links. Thanks.

Judgeperrysays...after the hearing at least.
 
  • #272
d sims speaks of chapter four.

Judge: you want section four to be considered by the court?

yes sir

judge: ja you have any objections?

(( I can't hear that mic)
 
  • #273
IF this is the same article....(sorry missed the name) that LKB referenced in the past......it is a document that initiated exceptional discussion and a GAME PLAN for the future ...year future UPGRADING of the field of forensic science INCLUSIVE!
 
  • #274
DS: Chapter 4 - interpreting scientific data - I think that is meaning of Frye.
HHBP: So you want the court to consider section 4
DS" yes sir =
 
  • #275
Hasn't he talked about this four-pronged test a few times now? C'mon!
 
  • #276
HHJP: it will be received in evidence for the purpose of considering section four.
 
  • #277
I'll tell you what. If DS continues to speak as she is now, she will lose the jury in the first minute. She cannot simplify anything because she herself doesn't get it. BAD combo IMO.
 
  • #278
HHBP: it will be received in evidence for the purposes of the content of section 4.
 
  • #279
here endeth the lesson. I get the impression that HHJP is not going to be giving anywhere near as much leeway today.
 
  • #280
Does anyone follow this on Twitter? If so what is the best @ to follow?

I check here on first page and seen no links. Thanks.

@JudgePerrySays and @CFNews13Casey are both tweeting from the courtroom.
 
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