4 Univ of Idaho Students Murdered, Bryan Kohberger Arrested, Moscow, Nov 2022 #100

[Cool Cats]

The unknown male DNA from the blood sample on the banister is yet another string of spaghetti, thrown against the wall, by the defense in hopes that it may stick, and cast doubt on BK's guilt, may point to someone else, anyone else. That blood spot could have been left by any male who had been in that house over the course of probably many months, and it was in a part of the house that the killer was not even known to have been. No amount of DNA anywhere in a house of socially active college students changes the fact that BK's DNA, and only BK's DNA, was found, on the sheath of the knife that was used to murder the four young people, and was found in the bed of two of them, not on some random handrail in a part of the house away from any of the murders.

At this point, the defense is hoping that, if enough strings are thrown against the wall, something may stick. I would suggest that they are going to need a lot more spaghetti.

They are looking for a "smoking gun" connection where none exists.

A "smoking gun" would be unknown DNA on the sheath. The general public isn't meant to touch a knife sheath under a victim in her private room.

But it is pretty normal for visitors to touch gloves and banisters in the public areas of the house.

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[Balthazar]

Accoring to Google Maps,
Blaine tower is 14 minutes (8.6 miles) down i95 to the south east of Moscow.

Yes, you are right. I've been using googlemaps for something I'm researching in steps and didn't notice googlemaps automatically showed walking distance instead of car miles. But it looks to me like i95 is pretty. much a straight shot south of Moscow, so if his car were on i95, then it would connect to the cell tower in Blaine - but doesn't mean his car was ever in Blaine - just that it was near enough to Blaine to connect to that tower. Or maybe he was in Blaine? IDK.

 

[Rolypolyoly]

The Mental Health Motion is trying to get the death penalty dismissed if he gets convicted.

That autism is the reason to give him LWOP instead of death.

Actually this can backfire. Saying he has "diminished capacity" helps explain what helped him do it. In other words:

"I just can't believe he did this without knowing his motive."

His autism goes hand in hand with his motive.

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I'm not sure I understand your post, how does autism go hand in hand with motive?

 

[LinasK]

Yes, you are right. I've been using googlemaps for something I'm researching in steps and didn't notice googlemaps automatically showed walking distance instead of car miles. But it looks to me like i95 is pretty. much a straight shot south of Moscow, so if his car were on i95, then it would connect to the cell tower in Blaine - but doesn't mean his car was ever in Blaine - just that it was near enough to Blaine to connect to that tower. Or maybe he was in Blaine? IDK.

Um, Google Maps doesn't automatically show walking distance versus car mileage. You have a choice as to what is set. Mine shows car mileage as the default value. You can also choose bus/train I think...

 

[Boxer]

I don't understand the rationale. I would expect there would be DNA all over the house from months and months of visitors. And, to be clear, from visitors who had full access to the bloody crime scenes before LE even arrived.

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Smoke and mirrors:
Just an attempt to overwhelm the oppoosition by misusing vocabulary and contexts.

The technique certainly can be effective as Iris Eytan had shown. She made vocabulary hash out of a perfectly comprehensible FBI CAST report, but an unprepared witness.

 

[Boxer]

Yes, you are right. I've been using googlemaps for something I'm researching in steps and didn't notice googlemaps automatically showed walking distance instead of car miles. But it looks to me like i95 is pretty. much a straight shot south of Moscow, so if his car were on i95, then it would connect to the cell tower in Blaine - but doesn't mean his car was ever in Blaine - just that it was near enough to Blaine to connect to that tower. Or maybe he was in Blaine? IDK.

The tower is out from Blaine a bit. But i95 is the area that the phone would ping from, there was a Genesee had ping as well if IIRC.
Blaine is SSE of Moscow though - not due south.

 

[Cool Cats]

I'm not sure I understand your post, how does autism go hand in hand with motive?

There are likely several psychological factors that came together to falicitate his violent crimes. Autism could be seen as one of them.

Like someone saying:

"No normal person would do this."

And the other person says:

"BK wasn't normal, he had autism."

I do not prescribe to this, ridiculous to tie autism into it.

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[Gigiky]

Can't the prosecution just hold up a picture of him with bushy eyebrows?

Yes. Like a pic of his mug shot.JMO

 

[Boxer]

Yes. Like a pic of his mug shot.JMO

Or the Moscow traffic stop video.
Changing appearance is one of those tells.

 

[SteveP]

Yes. Like a pic of his mug shot.JMO

Or like that toy you probably once had, if you are an old fart like me. Wooly Willy? Remember him? A man's face and bald head on a cardboard-like tablet, with metal shavings, covered with plastic, and included a magnetic plastic pen, so that you could pull the shavings up to make a beard, or mustache, or you could use the shavings to make a rendering of bushy eyebrows! We could all take turns being the courtroom sketch artist! JMO

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[Ghostwheel]

Yes, you are right. I've been using googlemaps for something I'm researching in steps and didn't notice googlemaps automatically showed walking distance instead of car miles. But it looks to me like i95 is pretty. much a straight shot south of Moscow, so if his car were on i95, then it would connect to the cell tower in Blaine - but doesn't mean his car was ever in Blaine - just that it was near enough to Blaine to connect to that tower. Or maybe he was in Blaine? IDK.

I find it interesting that it has never been postulated that he might have cut across Thorne Creek road/Uniontown East Road. It's a two lane road that intersects on I195 at UnionTown and also intersects right around Blain/Genessee on I95. Seems flat, not too windy.

 

[imstilla.grandma]

Dec '24 article:
"Here's some guy who drives 10 miles from a state where there's no death penalty, [from] a state where there's an active mental health defense, to a state where there is no mental health defense, and the death penalty is very active," he said. "I think it's just fascinating to me. I don't know what to imply from it, but I know the facts are the facts."

Bryan Kohberger's attorneys need to change strategy, Ted Bundy lawyer says

Ted Bundy's former lawyer is weighing in on Bryan Kohberger's defense and the University of Idaho murders.

www.newsweek.com

 

[MassGuy]

Dec '25 article:
"Here's some guy who drives 10 miles from a state where there's no death penalty, [from] a state where there's an active mental health defense, to a state where there is no mental health defense, and the death penalty is very active," he said. "I think it's just fascinating to me. I don't know what to imply from it, but I know the facts are the facts."

Bryan Kohberger's attorneys need to change strategy, Ted Bundy lawyer says

Ted Bundy's former lawyer is weighing in on Bryan Kohberger's defense and the University of Idaho murders.

www.newsweek.com

He wasn’t planning on getting caught, so I doubt that ever entered his mind.

 

[imstilla.grandma]

He wasn’t planning on getting caught, so I doubt that ever entered his mind.

Narcissistics never do

 

[Megnut]

He wasn’t planning on getting caught, so I doubt that ever entered his mind.

Geezus. Had he somehow eluded arrest, imagine him one day as a PhD professor lecturing about murders he secretly committed.

Alas, he left his DNA at his first crime scene.

Short serial career.

JMO

 

[Boxer]

dbm duplicate

 

[ilovewings]

He wasn’t planning on getting caught, so I doubt that ever entered his mind.

I don't imagine a murderer considers if a state has the death penalty before he commits murder.

 

[katydid23]

I think that the item would have others’ DNAs on it. However, the fact that only BK’s DNA was lifted from the sheath and it was touch DNA is a little bit suspicious. Think of the opposite situation, like leaving your pen at the crime scene. It would contain your DNA, but potentially, these of the people in your household, your work, your bank.

Now, just one spot of touch DNA, and only yours, at the place where the pen is usually held, would be suspicious. It is as if someone bothered to remove other potential sources before lifting yours.

What if BK was the one that removed all of the other sources all over the sheath, then put his gloves on before he used it again----but he accidentally missed that one tiny spot when he was cleaning it?

Or more likely, cleared all and transferred yours on one spot. It is not difficult to do. When did BK buy the knife on Amazon?

Someone can buy exactly the same later.
Technically, handling of such purchase would assume, the sellers’/packagers’ DNA on the sheath.

Then all DNA is removed, period. Isopropyl alcohol, acetone, any strong solvent.

Any of BK’s things he routinely uses (the collar of his clothes, etc) can be a source of DNA.

So according to the above scenario, someone would have to set up the frame job against BK, way before the murders.

They had to get some of his DNA to put onto the Sheath snap.

How did they make sure that on the night of the actual murders, the patsy they framed, didnt have an alibi?

In fact, not only did he not have an alibi, he was actually out driving alone all night with his phone powered down. And he was driving a car looking just like the on seen on video, speeding away from the crime scene.

They were pretty lucky !

 

[MassGuy]

I don't imagine a murderer considers if a state has the death penalty before he commits murder.

Exactly. If I'm thinking about killing someone, am I seriously going to be deterred because of the death penalty? Like, "life in prison is fine, but the death penalty is a bridge too far."

He had every intention of getting away with this, and that takes an incredible degree of arrogance. The fact that he was incredibly close to doing just that, notwithstanding.

 

[Megnut]

I wonder how many degrees of separation he tried to create. Dummy accounts. Gift card vs credit card purchases. Aliases.

For all his advanced knowledge, he botched just about every step.

Purchase the murder weapon on Amazon.
Wear distinctive-soled shoes.
Wear coveralls you purchased, save the tag.
Drive a vehicle with an obvious missing front plate.
Bring your phone along. Flip it to airplane mode midway.
Enter the house when occupants are awake and moving around.
Leave your DNA on the bed.
Lose your job.
Get caught separating your personal trash from your family's.

Winning strategy.

JMO