4 Univ of Idaho Students Murdered, Bryan Kohberger Arrested, Moscow, Nov 2022 #96

[Dotta]

Smug shot.

What a difference to a Delphi murder suspect's photos, RA
who looked like POW, emaciated, with dirty stained clothes and mad look in his eyes.

In comparison,
BK looks healthy, well groomed and satisfied.

JMO

 

[Gemmie]

Lighting also affects how dark his eyebrows appear in photos, which can either add or subtract from an impression of bushiness.

I'm just curious... so more direct lighting would make his eyebrows... do what in your opinion? Be more or less prominent? Sincerely curious what your opinion is about that since you brought it up.

 

[GRT]

I'm just curious... so more direct lighting would make his eyebrows... do what in your opinion? Be more or less prominent? Sincerely curious what your opinion is about that since you brought it up.

Side lighting is used in photography to create drama. In his earlier photo, you can see the light source is coming from the upper right because there are shadows extending to the lower left under his chin and nose. His eye sockets are dark, his bump nose is pronounced, and his features are sharp. It looks like there is some lens distortion that happens when the camera is too close to the face--making his bump nose seem even larger and the other parts of his face smaller than they might be in reality.

In the new photo, the lighting is more even and diffused, which tends to soften his features a bit. He still has the bump nose, but the photo doesn't look as moody or intense. His eye sockets don't look like he might be a descendant of Vlad Dracule.

It could very well be that the new jail has a better camera setup than the old.

MOO

 

[gremlin444]

I'm just curious... so more direct lighting would make his eyebrows... do what in your opinion? Be more or less prominent? Sincerely curious what your opinion is about that since you brought it up.

Direct lighting, as opposed to overhead lighting has a strong tendency to make eyebrows look lighter. I remember during Covid lockdown and the rise of Zoom calls this was discussed a lot when people were using their desk lamps to illuminate their faces. Then rings lights became popular. Ring lights don't effect the eyebrows' appearance as much, but I'm pretty sure that Ada County isn't using one of those for their mug shots anyway. I suspect their mugshot photo setup is lot more like what you get at the DMV.

Even with the direct front light source, you can see his eyes are more deep set than usual. Overhead lighting also further deepens the appearance of the eye sockets and emphasizes the brow ridge. Brows appear dark or even darker with an overhead light source.

Do I think he has bushy eyebrows naturally? I think he has thick eyebrows and I think seeing his eyes and brows in isolation in the dark would definitely heighten their appearance. Do I think his defense team groomed his eyebrows before his first court appearance? Probably. Do I think he is allowed to have the tools to keep up that grooming on his brows when there aren't court dates--no. He had no way of knowing when he was going to be transferred to Ada County--if his defense team was worried about making sure his Ada mugshot would be non threatening they would have made sure he had the chance to shave as well.

 

[AcousticViper]

AT will be requesting sealed hearings again in the near future, no doubt.

"The State believes there may be certain evidentiary hearings, for example if the state files 404b notices or motions in limine relating to the evidence, some of that information might be extremely prejudicial [to Kohberger] and the State would agree to seal hearings where prejudicial information is going to come out in that hearing."

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[Sundog]

I don't think the headline using the word "demands" is in a quote from BK. I think it's click bait written by the media source.
MOO

Agree. If you read the whole article, the defense attorneys requested to remove media from the courtroom as the judge's rules were violated, they said, in relation to the media's filming of the courtroom proceedings, including how they focused their filming on their client.

 

[Cool Cats]

AT will be requesting sealed hearings again in the near future, no doubt.

"The State believes there may be certain evidentiary hearings, for example if the state files 404b notices or motions in limine relating to the evidence, some of that information might be extremely prejudicial [to Kohberger] and the State would agree to seal hearings where prejudicial information is going to come out in that hearing."

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07:01:49

Prejudicial information/evidence should be kept private but not all of this type of evidence gets kept from the jury.

The defense can hide all they want but they cannot keep out all the prejudicial evidence that the jury will consider.

Two examples of prejudicial evidence are crime scene photos and DM's.

Usually, with photos, the judge will allow some but toss out others.

If true that BK used a DM to say "hi" to a victim and she ignored it and he left it at that, that could be prejudicial for the jury to see.

Clarity:

BK moves to Pullman then sends 100's of one-time DM's to area students just to say "hi."

BK sends several DM's to one victim.

2 Cents

 

[Arkay]

Direct lighting, as opposed to overhead lighting has a strong tendency to make eyebrows look lighter. I remember during Covid lockdown and the rise of Zoom calls this was discussed a lot when people were using their desk lamps to illuminate their faces. Then rings lights became popular. Ring lights don't effect the eyebrows' appearance as much, but I'm pretty sure that Ada County isn't using one of those for their mug shots anyway. I suspect their mugshot photo setup is lot more like what you get at the DMV.

Even with the direct front light source, you can see his eyes are more deep set than usual. Overhead lighting also further deepens the appearance of the eye sockets and emphasizes the brow ridge. Brows appear dark or even darker with an overhead light source.

Do I think he has bushy eyebrows naturally? I think he has thick eyebrows and I think seeing his eyes and brows in isolation in the dark would definitely heighten their appearance. Do I think his defense team groomed his eyebrows before his first court appearance? Probably. Do I think he is allowed to have the tools to keep up that grooming on his brows when there aren't court dates--no. He had no way of knowing when he was going to be transferred to Ada County--if his defense team was worried about making sure his Ada mugshot would be non threatening they would have made sure he had the chance to shave as well.

Quite interesting, thank you.

I agree about the lighting being the determining factor regarding his appearance between mug shot one and mug shot two.

I do feel though that he’s had a bit of a “glow-up,” in some subtle way. In court the lighting will be the same every day, so perhaps his team did in fact just smooth what edges they could.

However, I was surprised they didn’t have him clean-shaven for the newer mug shot.

JMO

 

[LinasK]

Potential is the key.
After a finding a direction basically elimination is the next step until they get an exact match.
MOao GSK is the text book.

Once they've identified their suspect through Genetic Genealogy, they then confirm the DNA match by obtaining a fresh sample from the suspect- whether by cheek swab, or obtaining a cigarette butt, or an item they used for eating or drinking off of.

 

[vls12345]

@AllisonMartTV

New mugshot for Bryan Kohberger, who is waking up in the Ada County Jail in Boise this morning. Kohberger is accused of killing Madison Mogen, Kaylee Goncalves, Xana Kernodle, and Ethan Chapin. His trial is set to take place in June.
@kxly4news

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Is it only my impression
that the defendant looks surprisingly
.... Ummm....
"well" comparing to the first one?

Is there even a ghost of a smile there?

I compare him to RA,
(defendant in Delphi case),
and they are like day and night.

JMO

He looks like he's reverse aging. I think jail agrees with him. Let's hope he stays incarcerated forever. Imo.

 

[Boxer]

He looks like he's reverse aging. I think jail agrees with him. Let's hope he stays incarcerated forever. Imo.

MOO being made to go to bed at night agrees with him.

 

[CHEL]

It looks to me like the lighting is why his mug shot looks so difference. The brighter light seems to make him look younger.

 

[Boxer]

It looks to me like the lighting is why his mug shot looks so difference. The brighter light seems to make him look younger.

MOO he is more settled looking which makes sense.
Still the 1/2 inch all around on his facial hair could be an attempt to minimize the prominence of his eyebrows.

 

[MeadowMuffin]

It looks to me like the lighting is why his mug shot looks so difference. The brighter light seems to make him look younger.

I'm thinking that the lifting of the stress of classes, having to teach & counsel students, arguments with his advisor, trying to make friendships, IOW adulting, is having the effect of making him look younger. He thinks he will be "exonerated" and therefore doesn't look as worried in his latest photo. To me, he even looks a bt cocky. IMO.

 

[girlhasnoname]

If ever someone's eyes were windows to the darkest soul, his has to be them. moo

Agreed along with Patrick Frazee and Murdaugh.

 

[Boxer]

I'm thinking that the lifting of the stress of classes, having to teach & counsel students, arguments with his advisor, trying to make friendships, IOW adulting, is having the effect of making him look younger. He thinks he will be "exonerated" and therefore doesn't look as worried in his latest photo. To me, he even looks a bt cocky. IMO.

Agree. He is thriving in the structure.
MOO this seen a lot where jail is better than the chaotic lives that many criminals lead. An example here is MOO the late night forays among which he cited Wawaia Park.
This "tourism" is creepy and MOO suggest a decline by going to see the dumping site for a famous unsolved murder of a WSU coed. (He didn't have time, he needed to be spending every minute he had fixing the breach of he created with his Ph.D. program.)

Also MOO The defense will never use that place or word again - MOO BK didn't think when he gave the place name to AT who then unwittingly used it in open court as an example of places he would go to to see stars.

 

[girlhasnoname]

I'm thinking that the lifting of the stress of classes, having to teach & counsel students, arguments with his advisor, trying to make friendships, IOW adulting, is having the effect of making him look younger. He thinks he will be "exonerated" and therefore doesn't look as worried in his latest photo. To me, he even looks a bt cocky. IMO.

Plus all the attention he’s getting. I personally think he enjoys the cat and mouse game and is thriving for the first real time in his life.

Jmo

 

[Megnut]

I'm thinking that the lifting of the stress of classes, having to teach & counsel students, arguments with his advisor, trying to make friendships, IOW adulting, is having the effect of making him look younger. He thinks he will be "exonerated" and therefore doesn't look as worried in his latest photo. To me, he even looks a bt cocky. IMO.

And notably, few women.

He is, I suspect, enjoying the ease of being the smartest person in the room his cell. He found a career that suits him. Where he doesn't have to do anything. Nothing required of him, as he sups on vegan food and an unbending sense of superiority.

JMO

 

[Cool Cats]

Unkempt Bryan Kohberger Seen in New Mugshot After Bombshell Court Ruling in Idaho College Murders

Bryan Kohberger's new mugshot shows a blank stare after his transfer to Ada County Jail, as he awaits trial for the 2022 Idaho student murders.

radaronline.com

Kohberger being transferred to Ada County Jail.

 

[Megnut]

Unkempt Bryan Kohberger Seen in New Mugshot After Bombshell Court Ruling in Idaho College Murders

Bryan Kohberger's new mugshot shows a blank stare after his transfer to Ada County Jail, as he awaits trial for the 2022 Idaho student murders.

radaronline.com

Kohberger being transferred to Ada County Jail.
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That photo gave me chills.

BK, walking, in profile.

Just as DM probably saw him. Male, typical male height/range, and that brow. Whether it's bushy eyebrows and highbrow or highbrow alone, it's prominent. No wonder if stood out to her.

Perhaps a zoom lens, and whether intentional on his part or not, it's equally chilling that he didn't turn his head. If there is such a thing, I wonder if BK doesn't have actual tunnel vision. I do not find his head movements natural. Off. Mechanical. Robotic. Surely I'm imagining this part: it's almost as if where one might hear a noise and quickly turn toward it, BK continues to listen to the sound, evaluate it and bring his eyes around to it, a halfbeat, fullbeat or three beat later. I'm basing it on his behavior at the defense table and little else... but it would gel with his exit from 1122. He didn't SEE DM, processed her presence, but by the time it registered (if he did look back), the door was shut, the house was quiet. He sped away from the crime scene. That suggests to me he was spooked. Or rather, had reason to believe 911 was in play. I don't think BK registers fear; in fact, where mist people would experience fear, I think he feels something like a thrill, maybe even his only real feeling in a sea of general numbness otherwise. In any event, I think he realized he left a witness behind and made the executive decision not to go back in but to get away and fast. The convoluted route -- a dodge and roll maneuver to avoid being tailed.

I still maintain that he only had one individual targeted, and to that, I maintain that having that crime scene discovered (the one murder) was part of whatever it was he commissioned himself to carry out. Not at all unlike the arsonist who stands back and watches the fire...

JMO