Abby & Libby - The Delphi Murders - Richard Allen Arrested - #199

[Purdue19]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1847124275863384147

https://twitter.com/x/status/1847125906805960712

https://twitter.com/x/status/1847127153080483926

 

[Vern]

Couple of queries answered with this tweet on the black tarp setup:

This tweet explains it. It is meant to protect the Jurors' privacy and safety. Gull and Allen will also enter/exit through the opening seen in the photo below along with the jury. It's on the west side of the courthouse, so the Jurors will also not be exposed to the teal & purple ribbons towards the front of the courthouse (even if they even knew what the significance of these ribbbons were).

Also, judging by how far out the tarp is from the rear of the courthouse, I also suspect that there is tarped-off areas/sections to the rear for Jurors to possibly take breaks outside IMO.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1847121468766691379

 

[mpnola]

RSBM

Is there a witness that claimed to see RA specifically? TIA

He said he saw her. She said she saw him. He also said he was on the bridge looking at fish. So yeah. I think thats saying he was seen, specifically.

 

[Purdue19]

There will be a random drawing to determine which outlets will get a pass to be inside the courtroom each day, and those passes will rotate.
Two of the media passes each day will go to pool reporters, which means they will brief all media and share their notes with the other reporters, including those who did not get a seat inside the courtroom.
By the way, after the judge turned down 13News' request for cameras in the courtroom, we asked if we could at least record audio, take still pictures, or have a closed feed of the trial sent to an overflow room, so more people could watch.
Gull said no to all of those options.

Delphi murders trial | How 13News will bring you inside the courtroom despite judge's ban on cameras

Despite repeated requests from WTHR and other media organizations, Judge Frances Gull has ruled cameras aren't allowed in the Carroll County courtroom.

www.wthr.com

 

[snooptroop88]

I see. But when he says “I killed Libby & Abby” that is literal, and not figurative.

He supposedly had no relationship to the victims according to himself, so (respectfully) yes, I would think that is literal and not figurative. If we believe RA, there'd be no damage done by him to the victims in any scenario or at any level that could justify that statement being figurative.

 

[mpnola]

I see. But when he says “I killed Libby & Abby” that is literal, and not figurative.

Yeah because they are literally dead

 

[steeltowngirl]

Back to those ribbons. In this video, it looks like they are on poles outside the courthouse, somewhat distanced. Perhaps on the public street. I had thought they were going up ON the courthouse.

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[steeltowngirl]

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Received one at 11:50 pm
Richard Allen is now in or near Delphi.

10/17/2024

This e-mail is to inform you that RICHARD ALLEN with offender number 999849 was transferred from Allen County Sheriff's Department. The transfer took place on 10/17/2024. The offender is now in the custody of another facility.

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[mrjitty]

All the speculation ends today.

But not all the conspiracies i wager.

So curious how this unfolds and what style Nick McL adopts.

 

[Niner]

There are some motions I did not see whether they were denied or granted.

Friday, October 18th:
*Trial set to begin (@ 9am ET) – IN – Abigail Joyce Williams (13) & Liberty Rose Lynn German (14) (Missing Feb. 13, 2017, found killed Feb. 14, 2017, after walking on a local hiking trail & were discovered around noon about 50 feet from the north bank of Deer Creek which is about 0.5 miles from the Monon High Bridge Trail, Delphi) – *Richard “Ricky/Rick” Matthew Allen (44 @ time of crime/50/now 52) arrested & booked (10/26/22) into the Carroll County Jail & charged & arraigned (10/28/22) with 2 counts of murder while committing or attempting to commit kidnapping of both victims. Plead not guilty. Held without bond.
Amended charges (1/18/24/granted 3/18/24): 2 counts of felony murder (knowingly & intentionally), 2 counts of murder (while committing or attempting to commit kidnapping of both victims). Transferred to White County jail from Carroll County for security reasons. And was transferred (11/2/22) to IN. DOC at Westville Correctional Facility at a more secure facility. Was awaiting transfer to Westville Correctional Facility but Judge Gull denied move (6/15/23). She plans to take the arguments under advisement & will make a ruling on whether or not he will be moved out of Westville at a later date. Judge Gull denied move (7/5/23). On 12/6/23 Allen was transferred from Westville to Wabash Valley Correctional Facility (long term segregation). Allen was booked (5/6/24) into the Allen County Jail [for hearing on 5/7/24]. Allen back (5/7/24) to Wabash Valley Correctional Facility. Judge Gull granted transfer of custody to the Carroll County Sheriff [instead of IDOC] but will be held in Cass County jail until trial [8/1/24]. Carroll County
Trial began with jury selection on 10/14/24 & ended 10/15/24.
Trial set to begin on 10/18/24. Mondays thru Fridays from 9am to 6pm. Saturdays from 9am to noon.
*12 jurors (8 women & 4 men) & 4 alternates [2 women & 2 men]. Jury is sequestered.
Allen County Judge Frances C. Gull presiding. Carroll County Prosecutor Nicholas McLeland & Special Prosecutor James David Luttrull, Jr.
Andrew Baldwin & Bradley Rozzi are Allen’s public appointed attorneys & added Jennifer Auger [addressing the circumstances surrounding digital forensics].
Charges, case & court info from 4/19/21 thru 10/11/24 & Jury Selection Day 1-2 (10/14-10/15/24) & thru 10/16/24 reference post #229 here:
https://www.websleuths.com/forums/t...ers-richard-allen-arrested-199.726193/page-12
10/17/24 Update: Jurors sworn in & sent home to pack & move to Delphi hotel.
Motions to be decided:
*Defense request for jurors to visit the crime scene near the Monon High Bridge – withdrawn by defense.
*State’s Motion in Limine – Sketches - Judge Gull said she would take things under advisement & have a decision tomorrow morning.
*State’s Motion in Limine - IPAS
*State’s Motion in Limine- Tobin – Under advisement.
*Defense’s Response To State’s Motion in Limine-Tobin – Under advisement.
*Defense’s Motion in Limine Regarding Witnesses Testifying to Defendant’s Mental Health. Judge Gull granted motion.
*Motion for Order on Designated Defense Representatives
Trial set to begin with opening statements on 10/18/24 @ 9am.

 

[Tealgrove]

7 1/2 years is a long time but we are finally here.

My heart goes out to the families and friends of Abby and Libby. Today is going to be very hard.

Today we will finally find out what happened on a beautiful day in February so long ago.

I can’t sleep tonight. My insomnia is not as a result of excitement.

It is directly related to the dread I feel in the pit of my stomach.

The dread of what we are about to hear.

I fear many more sleepless nights before we hopefully see justice for Abby and Libby.

Take care everyone. It’s going to be a rough ride.

MOO

 

[TristanP]

But these aren't INDIVIDUALS wearing Abby/Libby t-shirts. This is a memorial type effort in honour of the girls from the city. The trial is about their deaths. But those ribbons are not making any comments about guilt or innocence. IMO

But I can see how it might be misinterpreted so it will probably be relocated to the shopping area or someplace.

It is not at all appropriate for memorial ribbons to be hung on a courthouse, unless it’s for law enforcement members, but most especially not appropriate in a courthouse in which a murder trial is taking place for the victims.

 

[TristanP]

There's nothing they can do, should do, for those outside on the sidewalks if they want to wear those ribbons and carry signs with the girls photos. Just not on the courthouse or in the courtroom. JMO

The judge did not allow visible supporters of Karen Read to be within a certain distance of the courthouse. Edited to add: it was a 200’ buffer zone around the entire courthouse.

 

[TristanP]

I've watched courthouses put yellow ribbons up. I just googled it and there are tons pictures there too. So that is acceptable.

Also wearing of little red flowers on those who work at the courthouses honoring those who died is acceptable.

MOO is, this falls under the same principle.

They put yellow ribbons up in honor of victims for which the accused was on trial, in that very courthouse at that time?

 

[TristanP]

We don't know for sure that no one looked his way. It's possible he was a tipped in at some point. Problem is , so were thousands of other people over the years.

He literally tipped himself in the day after the murders. He was probably one of the first 50 men to investigate.

 

[TristanP]

He supposedly had no relationship to the victims according to himself, so (respectfully) yes, I would think that is literal and not figurative. If we believe RA, there'd be no damage done by him to the victims in any scenario or at any level that could justify that statement being figurative.

What about his confessions about sexually abusing multiple teen girls in Delphi?

 

[Warwick7]

Why would the defense withdraw their request?

https://twitter.com/x/status/1846928520053665819

 

[TristanP]

He said he saw her. She said she saw him. He also said he was on the bridge looking at fish. So yeah. I think thats saying he was seen, specifically.

We do not know if she said she saw Richard Allen specifically. We know she said she saw a man similar to the man in Libby’s video.

Maybe not you specifically, but many people are so convinced RA is BG that they forget that literally NO ONE identified Richard Allen as who they saw, to the best of our knowledge from information released so far. And it was made clear today that even the witnesses who contributed to the sketch cannot say the person they saw was RA.

And on top of that, we also learned that rhe sketch of old BG was based on a photo of old BG, which renders it useless.

 

[girlhasnoname]

Day #5 in #Justice4Abby&Libby​

 

[zh0r4]

He said he saw her. She said she saw him. He also said he was on the bridge looking at fish. So yeah. I think thats saying he was seen, specifically.

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