Abby & Libby - The Delphi Murders - Richard Allen Arrested - #205

[arielilane]

An older X post, but it never gets old. moo

https://twitter.com/x/status/1848856249695117706

 

[shonyakay]

Looking forward to hearing testimony regarding videos of RA's police interviews from 2022.

 

[Betty P]

TMS reported testimony to indicate the some of the background noise was removed. Does everything have to insinuate a nefarious manipulation of evidence?

They also said it was played twice the first time and perhaps someone remembers better than me but another time again the next day?

I'm ignoring the podcast and social media folks during this trial.

The trial has been difficult enough to follow.

 

[SouthEnd]

They LE should have found RA by 2019 at the latest, when they started again with people, they had already interrogated in 2017. They knew, the suspect was someone, who had tried to involve himself into the investigation. Why didn't this realization help to find this person? Were there so many men, who had tried to involve themselves?? Would perhaps be interesting to know these men, but of course we won't ever learn of them. MOO

100%. I believe that indeed there was tunnel vision in this case. Just not in the direction of RA; in fact having followed the case, there was tunnel vision from SOME LE towards every suspect but RA.

If I had to rage about one thing in this case, it would be how doggedly they pursued leads that frankly only looked good on paper, and the statements DC made in press conference. I understand why he got so emotional and invested, but once you share your personal, unsubstantiated theories with the public, it is hard to unring that bell.

All MOO

 

[ClearAhead]

I suppose it would be helpful to know what tools were used to make the two videos so glaringly different.

As has been reported.

Tools? An audio file and a computer would only be required. Once the sound waves of the rustling noise is identified, it’s removed resulting in the voices to be better heard. The D would’ve no doubt hired their own audio technician to ensure the file was cleaned up properly. This is much the same process used to remaster music from decades ago. JMO

 

[shonyakay]

I think, if another man had been waiting for the girls at the end of the bridge (South) and had said "DTH", Libby wouldn't have dared to film BG/RA as she did. IMO

Nor would Abby hurry to the down the hill side of the bridge where this other person supposedly is.

 

[SouthEnd]

Tools? An audio file and a computer would only be required. Once the sound waves of the rustling noise is identified, it’s removed resulting in the voices to be better heard. The D would’ve no doubt hired their own audio technician to ensure the file was properly cleaned up properly. JMO

I think rez is referring to the video techs editing the video in second viewing?

The bog-standard editing suite, Adobe's Premier pro is object aware. What that means, it is aware where someone's head vs feet are. So if a person (object) is tumbling around, as did one of the girl's that was on the foreground as the phone was moving and turning around, you tell the video software to keep that person upright. That forces the video to not tumble. It stabilises it.

In fact stabilising shaky footage is most likely one of the main features people use video software for. Lord knows it has saved me and my shaky hands from having to reshoot hours of footage. Quickly stabilize shaky videos | How to stabilize videos | Adobe

All MOO, I am only an editing amateur.

 

[Jade]

Thanks for taking the time to share those collated pictures.

However I just can't reconcile that with Andrea Burkhart's description of the video (I'll find the timestamped portion of her video report and signpost it here) and she has obviously seen the video as played in court.

Paraphrasing, Andrea struggled to see the image of BG in the distance, and then correspond this with the audio - asking how BG would have gotten close enough in the time period to be captured apparently ordering the girls 'down the hill'.

I suppose it could make sense if BG and the person whose voice we hear saying DTH are two different people but the state's theory of the crime is that there is only one perpetrator of the kidnap and murder.

BBM

BG quickly walked.

KA’s video showed RA as very limber, quick movements, compact; moves like Jagger KA says.

Would have taken seconds for the little pervert to scoot so eagerly right up to the girls.

There’s been opinions posted for years on WS that BG bearing down on them so quickly and intently was what scared the girls.

all imo

 

[SouthEnd]

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I've only heard they're (girls) near the end of it and that you can barely see BG. Then seconds later the "Down the hill" audio comes in.

From MS, they said they could barely see RA the first time around because of how bad the video was moving. One of them did see RA the first time around, but AC was too bamboozled to see much. When they showed the 'upright version' they said it was terrifying because of how close he appeared to be behind Abby.

It is all ppl's opinions in the end of the day. A creepy person walking up to me and boxing me towards a dead-end would be close even if they were 50 metres away.

All MOO

 

[INfisherman]

I'm ignoring the podcast and social media folks during this trial.

The trial has been difficult enough to follow.

My thoughts exactly. Pot stirrers. Does nothing to honor the memory of those 2 girls.

ETA MOO

 

[ClearAhead]

100%. I believe that indeed there was tunnel vision in this case. Just not in the direction of RA; in fact having followed the case, there was tunnel vision from SOME LE towards every suspect but RA.

If I had to rage about one thing in this case, it would be how doggedly they pursued leads that frankly only looked good on paper, and the statements DC made in press conference. I understand why he got so emotional and invested, but once you share your personal, unsubstantiated theories with the public, it is hard to unring that bell.

All MOO

Yes I agree. At some point along the way it seemed as if LE was getting caught up in the case being unsolved due to all the media focus directed toward them especially DC playing the role of the messiah, as if each and every word/phrase he spoke revealed the secret to solving the case. JMO

 

[Bergmann]

BBM

BG quickly walked.

KA’s video showed RA as very limber, quick movements, compact; moves like Jagger KA says.

Would have taken seconds for the little pervert to scoot so eagerly right up to the girls.

There’s been opinions posted for years on WS that BG bearing down on them so quickly and intently was what scared the girls.

all imo

We're not privy to the video so all I can do is report from somebody who has seen it, and maybe has a better appreciation of the distances etc.

 

[INfisherman]

This is much the same process used to remaster music from decades ago. JMO

….or enhance and improve satanic and/or subliminal messages for conspiracy theorists. (Kidding)

ETA RSBM

 

[SouthEnd]

Yes I'm aware it's an estimation but found it odd he testified it was 41 hours prior to autopsy, why did he state it that way and not give his estimated time.

Why didn't he just state what time he carried out the autopsies in addition to the 41 hours?

Because IMO the jurors will have access to the actual autopsy report that is timestamped. Unfortunately as is the access atm, the trial is mostly for the jurors benefit and not ours, so I can only hope that the TOD maths (which make sense if the autopsy was done at 8am on the 15th) are explained to the jury. We can wait until the transcripts are released...

All MOO

 

[rez125]

Because IMO the jurors will have access to the actual autopsy report that is timestamped. Unfortunately as is the access atm, the trial is mostly for the jurors benefit and not ours, so I can only hope that the TOD maths (which make sense if the autopsy was done at 8am on the 15th) are explained to the jury. We can wait until the transcripts are released...

All MOO

Thank you - I hadn't seen 8am mentioned anywhere so was struggling to see why only the 41 hours was mentioned.

 

[INfisherman]

We're not privy to the video so all I can do is report from somebody who has seen it, and maybe has a better appreciation of the distances etc.

Hello friend,

I’m curious, is the D up in arms over the video such as filing motions or objections in these reports? If they aren’t maybe the reporting could use some enhancing of its own to clear out unnecessary background noise. Just offering some perspective for the sake of clarity. If one isn’t happening then I’d assume it would be safe to ignore the other for the time being. Does that make sense?

 

[floridafreshsqueez]

Different people are going to have different opinions on what the evidence shows that is why I am only looking at the MSM coverage of this. No youtubers. It is difficult to tell what is their opinion and what was actually shown because we don't have audio to hear ourselves. Even court transcripts leave out a lot of nuance that can be interpreted in different ways by different people.

FWIW Lee Wallace is a trial lawyer with 31 years of experience that spans 20 different states. She has worked both defense side and plaintiffs side. She is still practicing today.

 

[SouthEnd]

Enhanced in my mind means background noise scrubbing software was used.

I used a basic version many years ago when I was cleaning up a church presentation that had some narration that had background noise.

This is very basic nowadays... like noise cancelling headphones.

100%. Having a single YTer (who EDITS their videos with that same software, and in theory, is able to click on 'stabilise' and 'remove noise' and test out how magically it changes videos) clutch their pearls that such magic technology exists leaves me wondering why they'd feign that kind of shock.

I am not an expert in editing. I studied audio and visual engineering back in the infancy of the whole sector so I might be seeing this whole thing under a different light. However keep in mind that nowadays every person I know who uses video for work-related purposes can use the basic cleaning software even on their phones, it is so accessible that shock feel disingenuous.

All MOO

 

[ClearAhead]

My thoughts exactly. Pot stirrers. Does nothing to honor the memory of those 2 girls.

ETA MOO

The Murdersheet isn’t stirring the pot, they’re simply describing their observations from inside the courtroom. If one of them offers an opinion it’s very clear it’s only an opinion. JMO

 

[arielilane]

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