CANADA Canada - Jack, 4 & Lilly Sullivan, 6, Vulnerable, wandered from home 10am, Gairloch Rd, Landsdowne Station, Pictou County, NS, 2 May 2025 #2

[Snoop Sister]

Dbm
Sorry about this. False info.

 

[iamafiusny]

Is this sounding as if they are now moving away from the theory of the children wandering away?


We're exploring all avenues in this missing persons investigation," says Staff Sergeant Curtis MacKinnon, Pictou County District RCMP. "We have officers from multiple disciplines dedicated to finding Lilly and Jack, including highly trained RCMP major crime and forensic investigators."

I think they were moving away from that theory in the first 24 hours.

Jmo

 

[Diddian]

I can't see fb, so thank you for adding this.

It is so aggravating that one must be a member of FaceBook to view posts and videos put out by public agencies, particularly in cases involving missing persons or potential crimes. FaceBook should make those pages publicly available to everyone (even if read-only or view-only) since they are so important to getting the word out.

In cases such as this one, FaceBook's member-only policy is limiting distribution of important public announcements.

 

[tarabull]

I wonder if the brown shirt and pants combo is what we see in one of the photos that's been used in a lot of news reports like this one.

Search for two missing children in rural Nova Scotia continues

Two children missing in rural northeastern Nova Scotia have yet to be found.

www.ctvnews.ca

But I also wouldn't be surprised if he was in just a pull-up.


Jmo

Click where it says view larger map and zoom in, this is the property FWIW

 

[AcerPacer]

So 35 people for formal interviews! This is great news!
That's a LOT of people who may know more!
IMO JMO
The fact that so many people can perhaps give information leads ME PERSONALLY to think it's not just the mother and step father who knows what has happened to these children!

Go RCMP go!

 

[iamafiusny]

It is so aggravating that one must be a member of FaceBook to view posts and videos put out by public agencies, particularly in cases involving missing persons or potential crimes. FaceBook should make those pages publicly available to everyone (even if read-only or view-only) since they are so important to getting the word out.

In cases such as this one, FaceBook's member-only policy is limiting distribution of important public announcements.

Agreed, there should be exceptions.

 

[AcerPacer]

It is so aggravating that one must be a member of FaceBook to view posts and videos put out by public agencies, particularly in cases involving missing persons or potential crimes. FaceBook should make those pages publicly available to everyone (even if read-only or view-only) since they are so important to getting the word out.

In cases such as this one, FaceBook's member-only policy is limiting distribution of important public announcements.

Hence why I immediately asked if I could post here (knowing I couldn't) so attempted a link ...I knew someone would be able to find it properly though so Websleuthers could have the information too!

 

[Sarahlou]

Hence why I immediately asked if I could post here (knowing I couldn't) so attempted a link ...I knew someone would be able to find it properly though so Websleuthers could have the information too!

This tells you which Facebook posts/pages can be posted. LE ones are allowed.

Rules Thread 'Social Media - Facebook, Twitter, etc.'

Sep 23, 2015

ALLOWED SOCIAL MEDIA PAGES

Individuals
Victim (missing or murdered person)
Suspect (as officially named by LE)

• Links may be used to direct members to posts made by a victim or a suspect.
• Paraphrasing is okay, but direct quotes, copying/pasting, screenshots from these pages is not allowed.
• NOTE: Comments and posts by Friends on these pages are not allowed to be linked, quoted, copied or referenced. They are considered rumor. Just don't mention them.
• Do not link to a victim or suspect's social media...

• bessie
• Replies: 0
• Forum: The Rules

• 
• 

 

[MarcieM]

If the timeline was off, I wonder if something was happening that weekend that caused the children to be reported Friday? IMO

I was wondering if they usually see her family on the weekends and if so, they would see the children weren't there.

 

[Andromeda]

They are "partners" rather than married, and I wonder if that is because some kind of child-related benefit would be reduced if they were married. I have also wondered if the mother moving out from her partner's home may have something to do with child-related benefits dependent upon being a single parent and the now public revelation that she is living with someone with whom she has another child. I don't know about Canada, but in some similar circumstances in the USA, a person may have to pay back benefits previously received under the assumption of single-parenting and non-cohabitation once it is learned that assumption is not true.

In Canada you have to inform Canada Revenue Agency, immediately, of any change of address or marital status for the very reasons you cite above. What you shared is exactly what I was thinking.

In order to be recognized as a common-law union in Nova Scotia, you have to be co-habitating no less than two years. A legal FAQ page, linked, delineates the difference between married/common-law and how the Matrimonial Property Act applies to common-law unions.

Seeing as how DM’s mother owns everything, 50% of nothing is nothing.

If she had been presenting herself as in a relationship and living together to the public at large, but then for whatever reason had to publicly broadcast a change in status, given the publicity surrounding the parents, maybe Canada Revenue Agency would take the time to reassess earlier returns to make sure the information she presented was accurate and true. jmo/moo

Common-Law Nova Scotia | Cohabitation, Rules & Agreements

When to advise CRA
Change your marital status – Update your personal information with the CRA - Canada.ca

Change your address – Update your personal information with the CRA - Canada.ca

How to change your address with the CRA and how long each option will take to update your address.

www.canada.ca

 

[Diddian]

So 35 people for formal interviews! This is great news!
That's a LOT of people who may know more!
IMO JMO
The fact that so many people can perhaps give information leads ME PERSONALLY to think it's not just the mother and step father who knows what has happened to these children!

Go RCMP go!

180 tips as well... that is also good news as it indicates people either observed things or are aware of things that may be relevant and they are reporting such to LE.

Still praying the kids are found alive and placed somewhere safe.

 

[tlcya]

We have previously touched upon whether or not DM could be on the autism spectrum (ASD). There has been nothing said confirming nor denying this, however, the way he speaks could be "Compensatory Strategies"
Autistic people may develop compensatory strategies to manage social interactions and navigate communication. These strategies can include using past experiences, logic, or other coping mechanisms to regulate social behavior.

in addition people with a previous Traumatic Brain Injury may also use compensatory strategies.

There are many possible reasons for DM's demeanor and speech patterns and the way in which he expresses himself. One possible one is deception but there are other equally valid reason.

 

[WHITEBOY RADIO]

Royal Canadian Mounted Police in Nova Scotia

Pictou County District RCMP is asking for the public's assistance in locating six-year-old Lilly Sullivan and four-year-old Jack Sullivan. They were last seen this morning, May 2, on Gairloch Rd. in...

www.facebook.com

View attachment 584874

View attachment 584873

Pictou County District RCMP is asking for the public's assistance in locating six-year-old Lily Sullivan and four-year-old Jack Sullivan. They were last seen this morning, May 2, on Gairloch Rd. in #LansdownStation, #Pictou County.

Lily Sullivan has shoulder-length light brown hair with bangs. She might be wearing a pink sweater, pink pants, and pink boots.

Jack Sullivan has short blondish hair. He’s wearing blue dinosaur boots. No other clothing description is available.

We ask that people spread the word through social media respectfully.

Anyone with information on the whereabouts of Lily Sullivan and Jack Sullivan is asked to contact Pictou County District RCMP at 902-485-4333. To remain anonymous, call Nova Scotia Crime Stoppers, toll-free, at 1-800-222-TIPS (8477), submit a secure web tip at www.crimestoppers.ns.ca, or use the P3 Tips app.

File #: 2025-580096


Update, 1:10 p.m. Search efforts continue for Lily and Jack Sullivan in #PictouCounty. A vulnerable missing person alert was issued for Pictou County this morning to help find the two who were last seen at about 10 a.m. today, May 2, at a home on Gairloch Rd. before they wandered.

Missing children: Help the RCMP find Lilly Sullivan and Jack Sullivan | Royal Canadian Mounted Police

May 2, 2025
Landsdowne Station, Nova Scotia

UPDATE: The search for missing children Lily and Jack Sullivan is ongoing in Pictou County.

Since just after 10 a.m. this morning, May 2, a search has been underway for two children who are believed to have wandered from a home on Gairloch Rd. in Lansdowne Station, Pictou County.

There is a multi-agency response currently on the ground in Pictou County. It includes resources from ground search and rescue teams from around the province who are collaborating to ensure resources and teams are available on an ongoing basis. Other resources and teams include the Civil Air Search and Rescue Association (CASARA), Department of Natural Resources Air Services, and several RCMP units, including RCMP Police Dog Services, RCMP Remotely Piloted Aircraft Systems (drones) operators, and others. Additionally, the RCMP issued a vulnerable missing person alert for Pictou County.

Police and others involved in the search appreciate the ongoing community support across the province related to this missing person investigation. We ask, however, that the public avoid the search area to allow trained searchers to do their work. The child's family has been kept updated on the search efforts.

Anyone with information on the whereabouts of Lily and Jack Sullivan is asked to contact Pictou County District RCMP at 902-485-4333. To remain anonymous, call Nova Scotia Crime Stoppers, toll-free, at 1-800-222-TIPS (8477), submit a secure web tip at www.crimestoppers.ns.ca, or use the P3 Tips app.

--

Pictou County District RCMP is asking for the public's assistance in locating six-year-old Lily Sullivan and four-year-old Jack Sullivan. They were last seen this morning, May 2, on Gairloch Rd. in Lansdown Station, Pictou County.

Lily Sullivan has shoulder-length light brown hair with bangs. She might be wearing a pink sweater, pink pants, and pink boots.

Jack Sullivan has short blondish hair. He's wearing blue dinosaur boots. No other clothing description is available.

We ask that people spread the word through social media respectfully.

Anyone with information on the whereabouts of Lily Sullivan and Jack Sullivan is asked to contact Pictou County District RCMP at 902-485-4333. To remain anonymous, call Nova Scotia Crime Stoppers, toll-free, at 1-800-222-TIPS (8477), submit a secure web tip at www.crimestoppers.ns.ca, or use the P3 Tips app.

Contact information

Strategic Communications and Media Relations
Nova Scotia RCMP
[email protected]

File number: 2025-580096
Thread #1

Will share these out!

 

[moonriverfarm]

IMO these kids were gone long before they were reported

 

[Diddian]

I was wondering if they usually see her family on the weekends and if so, they would see the children weren't there.

A part of me hopes both are involved because then I think it less likely the children are dead and more likely that the two adults gave the children away or sold them as some kind of informal private adoption... and that they are alive. Or possibly, one is dead due to some kind of incident (drug overdose, physical abuse), and the other given away or sold/adopted out because that child witnessed something about the incident that the parents didn't want revealed to authorities. (ETA: I think this less likely because I would imagine that, even going through underground channels, it would take awhile to put together giving children away or selling them, so wouldn't happen quickly on the heels of an incident involving one child.)

I keep thinking how odd it is that they seem to know what Lilly was likely wearing (and doesn't it sound like a cute outfit with backpack that a child might be delivered to adoptive parents in?...), but seem to have no idea what Jack was wearing, other than a pull-up and his rain boots. But then, where is he? Searchers found no signs of either child other than supposed boot prints near the house (one set or two?).

If something happened 2 days earlier than the children were reported missing, that would give the holder of the children (or child) time to get out of the country before authorities started looking.

Really hoping a deep dive into phone and other electronic forensics leads to recovery of two alive children.

 

[MistyWaters]

Actually, the father would be legally responsible too, based on what the Criminal Code says:
Criminal Code

Duty of persons to provide necessaries

• 215(1) Every one is under a legal duty
  • (a) as a parent, foster parent, guardian or head of a family, to provide necessaries of life for a child under the age of sixteen years;
  • (b) to provide necessaries of life to their spouse or common-law partner; and
  • (c) to provide necessaries of life to a person under his charge if that person
    • (i) is unable, by reason of detention, age, illness, mental disorder or other cause, to withdraw himself from that charge, and
    • (ii) is unable to provide himself with necessaries of life

What are necessaries of life? It doesn’t appear to include the scope of negligence in child minding other than obligation in providing basic things such as food, shelter, medical attention, etc.
JMO

Failing to Provide the Necessaries of Life (s. 215) Laws in Canada | Strategic Criminal Defence FAQ

What is Failing to Provide the Necessaries of Life? Failing to provide the necessaries of life is covered under s.215 of the Criminal Code. This section of the Criminal Code defines circumstances in which a legal duty to provide necessaries

www.strategiccriminaldefence.com

Some common examples of failing to provide the necessaries of life include the following:

• Failing to provide your child with food;
• Failing to provide your foster child with medical attention;
• Failing to provide your spouse with medical care; and
• Failing to provide food, to person with a mental illness under your direct care;

 

[Skigh]

As countries law systems vary ,is a formal interview , in Canada, one done under oath and a reason has to be given for the interview ?

 

[MistyWaters]

Click where it says view larger map and zoom in, this is the property FWIW

View attachment 585699

This link won’t open for me. Is this news report really stating the two missing children were last seen on the road past their home at about 10am Friday?? If so, that’s major news.

Could be possible they were either hoping to catch the school bus or were waiting for someone to pick them up???

 

[Snoop Sister]

I didn’t realized they scoured the surrounding bodies of water for two days. I thought it was only a one day attempted recovery operation.

“And on May 8 and 9, the RCMP’s Underwater Recovery Team (URT) scoured bodies of water around Lansdowne Station; URT’s two-day operation didn’t uncover any evidence.”

Update: Missing children investigation and search in Pictou County – Waterfront Media Halifax

waterfrontmediahfx.the902hxir.ca

 

[Skigh]

This link won’t open for me. Is this news report really stating these two were last seen on the road past their home at about 10am Friday?? If so, that’s major news.

I take it to mean at their home by the adults in the house not that the children were seen by a third party out of the home.