CANADA Canada - Jack, 4 & Lilly Sullivan, 6, Vulnerable, wandered from home 10am, Gairloch Rd, Landsdowne Station, Pictou County, NS, 2 May 2025 #2

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Sillybilly has stated members can discuss theories due to the unusual circumstances in this case, as per their post above.

The relevant part is bolded by me
 
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I wonder if the police have managed to find out who was in the vicinity of the house during the days since the children were last at school by tracing mobile phone information.
I also wonder that...and also if police have managed to find out who was in the vicinity of either of the parents' cellphones during those days - in case something happened AWAY from the family home.
 
Surely if he hadn't been home that would prove his innocence and any involvement or neglect regarding them going missing. Because it would be more believable that one parent didn't hear or see the children leave than two parents not doing so. Moo
And him offering up his phone (confirm his whereabouts..NOT there) offering to take a lie detector (confirm he is telling the truth that he doesn't know where or what happened to the children)
JMO it could make sense that he wasn't there!?
 
I think she left back to the reservation because she feels like she'll be protected there <modsnip> MOO
She didn't just go a place she felt protected, she also cut off all contact with Daniel which is a very odd thing to do in the circumstances.

Plus DM own comments about seeing his youngest daughter need to be taken into consideration.


Moo
 
If the truth of the matter is, the parents were on a break before the kids went missing, and DM in fact did not sleep in the home Thursday night, but that he arrived i.e., around 9:30/10am to visit his daughter, what the stepdad says could be true. If he walked in and did not see the kids, he would automatically assume they were at school because it was a school day (no backpack, no boots at the back door to the yard). If he didn’t see anyone and so went to the bedroom, he would not be surprised to see her in bed “drifting in and out” with the baby in bed with her. If yes, he might have crawled into bed with them, waking her up. They could have been talking (for 20 minutes?) and then…being awake and conscience realizing she couldn’t hear the kids (silence) that’s when things would have gotten “immediate”. So, for him to say he saw Lilly before the silence (not that morning a different morning) is true. If I’m right about DM “couch surfing”, and if for example Thursday was one of the few shifts he was able to work, then his lying might be in the name of love/disbelief she could be guilty of anything “untoward”. But if he lied to protect her, (obstruction) that is a huge problem with dire consequences. JMO/MOO
BBM

The way you phrased the bolded part of this post initially made me think you were saying that DM (stepdad) has stated that he was not home that night and came home to visit his daughter, which would be a huge revelation given his statements to the media until now. I now realize that you were just stating your theory, but I think it's important to clarify for anyone else reading that this is one person's speculation, not fact.

(Please correct me if I'm mistaken.)
 
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She didn't just go a place she felt protected, she also cut off all contact with Daniel which is a very odd thing to do in the circumstances.

Plus DM own comments about seeing his youngest daughter need to be taken into consideration.


Moo
I also think she's trying to distance herself from the whole situation. I have a feeling this got alot bigger than anyone thought it would. I wonder if maybe CPS is just being overly cautious for the moment being no one knows what happened. Do we know if she's allowed to see the youngest daughter?
 
I notice wording has changed from “believed to have wandered” to “IF they had wandered”.

Police scaled back a ground search last week, saying it was unlikely the children were still alive if they had wandered into the densely wooded area surrounding their rural residence.”
 
If the truth of the matter is, the parents were on a break before the kids went missing, and DM in fact did not sleep in the home Thursday night, but that he arrived i.e., around 9:30/10am to visit his daughter, what the stepdad says could be true. If he walked in and did not see the kids, he would automatically assume they were at school because it was a school day (no backpack, no boots at the back door to the yard). If he didn’t see anyone and so went to the bedroom, he would not be surprised to see her in bed “drifting in and out” with the baby in bed with her. If yes, he might have crawled into bed with them, waking her up. They could have been talking (for 20 minutes?) and then…being awake and conscience realizing she couldn’t hear the kids (silence) that’s when things would have gotten “immediate”. So, for him to say he saw Lilly before the silence (not that morning a different morning) is true. If I’m right about DM “couch surfing”, and if for example Thursday was one of the few shifts he was able to work, then his lying might be in the name of love/disbelief she could be guilty of anything “untoward”. But if he lied to protect her, (obstruction) that is a huge problem with dire consequences. JMO/MOO

Do you have a link please?
 
I also think she's trying to distance herself from the whole situation. I have a feeling this got alot bigger than anyone thought it would. I wonder if maybe CPS is just being overly cautious for the moment being no one knows what happened. Do we know if she's allowed to see the youngest daughter?
We know that it was reported in media that she sat in the back of an ambulance and left with her mom and 1 years-old daughter.

After that dm made the statement that she cut off contact with him and asked RCMP to collect some stuffed animals for her.

No update if she is still allowed to see the youngest after that point.

Jmo
 
If he is lying to protect her it makes no sense that she left him and changed her Facebook status to single.
IMO, it wouldn’t be the first time someone was thrown under the bus because their trust and love was misplaced. Unbeknownst to us, she had her reasons for leaving but I found the timing peculiar. Because until then, they presented themselves as a couple, and their stories, although imo, inconsistent, pretty much “jived” with each other’s. That said, given how fast she was quick to correct the record about her status, maybe there was a breakdown before April 29th? Changing her FB status (I’m not on social media and I would be allowed to link it anyway,) could have been strictly “administrative” to legally date stamp her status electronically. Just like having to advise the school for mailing purposes, etc. jmo/moo
 
I also think she's trying to distance herself from the whole situation. I have a feeling this got alot bigger than anyone thought it would. I wonder if maybe CPS is just being overly cautious for the moment being no one knows what happened. Do we know if she's allowed to see the youngest daughter?

We don’t know for sure what is the status of the youngest but I’d certainly agree that MBM is trying to distance (or disassociate) herself which is highly unusual behavior for a mother of missing children. JMO
 
I think that too. I’ve thought from the beginning that something happened in the days before that they were trying to cover up. And for some reason the backpack had to be disappeared as well.
It does always concern me when children "go missing" after being off school. Not saying it is the case here, but many times it's been a convenient excuse to muddy the actual timelines or to cover up the truth. Hoping this isn't one of those times.
 
I think she left back to the reservation because she feels like she'll be protected there <modsnip> MOO
Sorry, I'm trying to keep up with the thread but it's moving so fast - where does it say MB-M is on a reserve? This article says the kids belong to a band, and this one says MB-M is staying with family, but I can't find an article saying the family MB-M is staying with lives on reserve.
 
We don’t know for sure what is the status of the youngest but I’d certainly agree that she’s trying to distance (or disassociate) herself which is highly unusual behavior for a mother of missing children.

Just because she isn't talking to the media doesn't mean she isn't talking to the police imo. The police collected some toys for the little one, so suggests they are in close contact with the mum imo
 
This is unreal. Where is the source of all of this information? Link? LE statement? Step-dad lying?
Like many of the other participants in this forum, I have my own opinions I would like to share based on my personal feelings and perception, and I clearly state what is opinion and what is fact and link accordingly.
 
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