CANADA Canada - Jack, 4 & Lilly Sullivan, 6, Vulnerable, wandered from home 10am, Gairloch Rd, Landsdowne Station, Pictou County, NS, 2 May 2025 #2

[TMich6811]

Jack and Lillys last day at school was 2 weeks ago

 

[MarcieM]

Sorry, I'm trying to keep up with the thread but it's moving so fast - where does it say MB-M is on a reserve? This article says the kids belong to a band, and this one says MB-M is staying with family, but I can't find an article saying the family MB-M is staying

Jack and Lillys last day at school was 2 weeks ago

Their last day they attended school was Tuesday, April 29.

 

[TMich6811]

Their last day they attended school was Tuesday, April 29.

That’s 2 weeks ago, yes

 

[MarcieM]

Sorry, I'm trying to keep up with the thread but it's moving so fast - where does it say MB-M is on a reserve? This article says the kids belong to a band, and this one says MB-M is staying with family, but I can't find an article saying the family MB-M is staying with lives on reserve.

It's been posted in the thread, she went home with her Mom and they live on a reservation. Unfortunately, I don't have a link handy.

 

[MistyWaters]

Just because she isn't talking to the media doesn't mean she isn't talking to the police imo. The police collected some toys for the little one, so suggests they are in close contact with the mum imo

DM claims he’s assisting the police as well so I don’t think that proves anything.

Case of 2 missing N.S. children enters 10th day as police remain tight lipped | Globalnews.ca

Police in Nova Scotia have said nothing publicly since they announced a "scaled back" search for two missing children which entered its 10th day.

globalnews.ca

“The children’s stepfather, Daniel Martell, said he and his family have been working closely with the RCMP to assist in their investigation.”

 

[musicaljoke]

Yes! Ugh - this case makes me go back and forth with my own opinions. I just cannot believe his behavior was theatrical. And that complicates everything for me.

Indeed. The pain and worry is clearly seen on his face, in the deep furrow between his eyes, and it certainly looks real. Also, if he was fabricating a story, I'm sure he would say that he saw both children at 10:00. The fact that he says he just saw Lilly when she came into the bedroom makes me believe his account of that morning. I believe he is just telling it like it was. And in spite of whatever is going on between the two adults, neither has denied the account of what happened.

 

[iamafiusny]

It does always concern me when children "go missing" after being off school. Not saying it is the case here, but many times it's been a convenient excuse to muddy the actual timelines or to cover up the truth. Hoping this isn't one of those times.

If this ends up being the case, as I suspect it might, you'd think they'd have come up with a better story than not seeing their 4 years-old at all on Friday.

I wonder what the reasoning could be for that decision.

Moo

 

[MarcieM]

That’s 2 weeks ago, yes

Sorry, I just thought I'd post the exact date since I remembered it.

 

[AcerPacer]

Do you have a link please?

This is the poster's own speculation

Little helpful note for all ..
When you see the letters JMO (just my opinion) or OMO (only my opinion) or IMO...
The poster is surmising, imagining, wondering, thinking allowed and the information is not based on facts given so there probably won't be a link to provide!

 

[Andromeda]

This would be a bombshell. Where are you getting this info, or are you just speculating?

I’m very clear this is my opinion. I even begin my post with “If”. IMO/MOO, this is the only thing that makes sense to me based on the information both parents presented to the media and what the mother did on Saturday. Since I jumped into this forum a couple of days ago, I posted I suspected DM was couch surfing, if not that, that I believed he was out i.e., with the boys, and exercised good judgement and did not drive home. Some of my posts were deleted because I was not linking quoted sources I was referring to, and because I was responding to op’s whose posts were deleted making my response out of bounds, too. So, all this to say, my personal opinion is and has been from when I became familiar with this case, he did not sleep in the home Thursday night and arrived back home Friday morning. jmo

 

[AnnieOakley123]

I also think she's trying to distance herself from the whole situation. I have a feeling this got alot bigger than anyone thought it would. I wonder if maybe CPS is just being overly cautious for the moment being no one knows what happened. Do we know if she's allowed to see the youngest daughter?

I agree. I theorize that both the mom and the stepdad thought the RCMP would believe the abduction idea that they were pushing from the start, which did not happen. We don't know the details why, but LE debunked that theory from the get-go. When I listen to the statements from the mom and stepdad, apart from them sounding very scripted with unnecessary details, there are other red flags. Either way, they presented a 'we, we, we' front about the moment they claim they both realized the children were not at the home, and given what has transpired since, it seems likely one of them (if not both) is not telling the truth. RCMP release today indicates their teams are working 24/7 on this. MOO

 

[MarcieM]

I’m very clear this is my opinion. I even begin my post with “If”. IMO/MOO, this is the only thing that makes sense to me based on the information both parents presented to the media and what the mother did on Saturday. Since I jumped into this forum a couple of days ago, I posted I suspected DM was couch surfing, if not that, that I believed he was out i.e., with the boys, and exercised good judgement and did not drive home. Some of my posts were deleted because I was not linking quoted sources I was referring to, and because I was responding to op’s whose posts were deleted making my response out of bounds, too. So, all this to say, my personal opinion is and has been from when I became familiar with this case, he did not sleep in the home Thursday night and arrived back home Friday morning. jmo

My mind usually goes to step parent in these situations but this time, I've felt like Daniel is being genuine but I didn't know how to make it fit. Very interesting indeed.

 

[AIGT]

If this ends up being the case, as I suspect it might, you'd think they'd have come up with a better story than not seeing their 4 years-old at all on Friday.

I wonder what the reasoning could be for that decision.

Moo

Possibly the general public’s lack of understanding around human trafficking, how it usually happens. Also the RCMP had a BOLO out for an attempted abduction about three hours away from them within the last month (vehicle actually kind of matching one pictured in their driveway but not close enough imo for me to post it here).

My point is they may have thought people would really buy in to the abduction story. They’d put an amber alert out, send police to the PEI and NB border and airports like Martell kept saying and that’s where all the focus would be. That’s about the best timeline they can give that would give credibility to them being abducted. They may not have taken into consideration all the other 1 in a millions that would have to happen for it to be a real abduction.

MO

 

[Lucy6226]

I agree. I theorize that both the mom and the stepdad thought the RCMP would believe the abduction idea that they were pushing from the start, which did not happen. We don't know the details why, but LE debunked that theory from the get-go. When I listen to the statements from the mom and stepdad, apart from them sounding very scripted with unnecessary details, there are other red flags. Either way, they presented a 'we, we, we' front about the moment they claim they both realized the children were not at the home, and given what has transpired since, it seems likely one of them (if not both) is not telling the truth. RCMP release today indicates their teams are working 24/7 on this. MOO

Completely agree with this. That's not to say the children haven't wandered away, just that the circumstances or timeline is not as stated imo. I think the RCMP know exactly what has occured and are gathering the evidence, hence the interviews. I expect we'll have another update from them with arrests by the end of the week, fingers crossed. Moo

 

[MistyWaters]

If this ends up being the case, as I suspect it might, you'd think they'd have come up with a better story than not seeing their 4 years-old at all on Friday.

I wonder what the reasoning could be for that decision.

Moo

This is true. If their story was entirely fabricated it wasn’t put together with very much thought as it not only raises many questions but highlights their poor parenting as well. The children found to be missing from their beds in the morning is a far more common one, having the habit of waking up very early, oh panic set in, where did they go?

JMO

 

[iamafiusny]

I agree. I theorize that both the mom and the stepdad thought the RCMP would believe the abduction idea that they were pushing from the start, which did not happen. We don't know the details why, but LE debunked that theory from the get-go. When I listen to the statements from the mom and stepdad, apart from them sounding very scripted with unnecessary details, there are other red flags. Either way, they presented a 'we, we, we' front about the moment they claim they both realized the children were not at the home, and given what has transpired since, it seems likely one of them (if not both) is not telling the truth. RCMP release today indicates their teams are working 24/7 on this. MOO

I have theorized that perhaps mom was scared of stepdad and going along with what she was told to say so they arranged a plan to get her out of there safely and cut contact. All jmo.

DM stating he can't see Meadow would back up this theory, but would depend on if mom also lost access to the youngest or not. Moo.

With 35 people to interview I wonder if abduction theory is back on the table, but RCMP hasn't stated anything to that effect.

All moo.

 

[Firstsnow4]

I have been reading this thread and this is my first post. The thing that strikes me as odd is the fact that supposedly either one or both children were off sick from school. So what were the mum and step dad doing staying in bed until 10am, whilst the supposedly ‘sick’ children are playing by themselves (potentially outdoors). If my child was sick I would be caring or looking after them (tending to them). They couldn’t have been that ill and it makes me think there is another nefarious reason why they weren’t at school (that happened before the Friday). That’s one of the reasons why the story seems off to me. JMO.

 

[iamafiusny]

This is true. If their story was entirely fabricated it wasn’t put together with very much thought as it not only raises many questions but highlights their poor parenting as well. The children found to be missing from their beds in the morning is a far more common one, having the habit of waking up very early, oh panic set in, where did they go?

JMO

Maybe its as simple as that - thinking empty beds too obvious and that hearing Jack playing was more believable, not realizing how odd most parents would find it to not feed, talk to, cuddle, change, your 4 years-old.

Moo

 

[MarcieM]

I have theorized that perhaps mom was scared of stepdad and going along with what she was told to say so they arranged a plan to get her out of there safely and cut contact. All jmo.

DM stating he can't see Meadow would back up this theory, but would depend on if mom also lost access to the youngest or not. Moo.

With 35 people to interview I wonder if abduction theory is back on the table,

Yes, I would be curious to know if they both lost visitation for the moment or just him.

 

[thispersonj]

That’s 2 weeks ago, yes

A nagging question I've always had—and I know there's no answer, just sharing for the sake of it—is, on Friday, did the parent's call/email the school to report the kids' absence? This might not be a requirement absolutely everywhere but it is pretty standard. And if you don't do it in time, the school immediately calls you.
To expand on why this question has been pestering me:
It would be weird to call in and report an absence without seeing your child/children first, unless they were very sick the night previous.
If they were very sick the night previous, why are they running around ("playing outside?") before the parents are even out of bed?
I mean, the answer could easily be that truancy is the norm in this household. The absolute, inarguable conclusion is that the kids were either healthy enough to go, and no one could be bothered, or they were sick, and no one could be bothered to get up and tend to them.
It's not like anything can be derived from the answer to these questions. It's just bothersome, as a parent, to consider it.

Edited to add: On second thought, they could have told the school in advance they'd be out all week. I'll leave this flawed little post up here anyway. I'm just sad.