CANADA Canada - Jack, 4 & Lilly Sullivan, 6, Vulnerable, wandered from home 10am, Gairloch Rd, Landsdowne Station, Pictou County, NS, 2 May 2025 #2

[thispersonj]

That’s 2 weeks ago, yes

A nagging question I've always had—and I know there's no answer, just sharing for the sake of it—is, on Friday, did the parent's call/email the school to report the kids' absence? This might not be a requirement absolutely everywhere but it is pretty standard. And if you don't do it in time, the school immediately calls you.
To expand on why this question has been pestering me:
It would be weird to call in and report an absence without seeing your child/children first, unless they were very sick the night previous.
If they were very sick the night previous, why are they running around ("playing outside?") before the parents are even out of bed?
I mean, the answer could easily be that truancy is the norm in this household. The absolute, inarguable conclusion is that the kids were either healthy enough to go, and no one could be bothered, or they were sick, and no one could be bothered to get up and tend to them.
It's not like anything can be derived from the answer to these questions. It's just bothersome, as a parent, to consider it.

Edited to add: On second thought, they could have told the school in advance they'd be out all week. I'll leave this flawed little post up here anyway. I'm just sad.

 

[thispersonj]

This is true. If their story was entirely fabricated it wasn’t put together with very much thought as it not only raises many questions but highlights their poor parenting as well. The children found to be missing from their beds in the morning is a far more common one, having the habit of waking up very early, oh panic set in, where did they go?

JMO

I think this is the most convincing part of their claim, IMO—the fact their story doesn't start earlier in the morning.
That said, maybe they slept in that day. (This is a pretty dark thought, I realize.)

 

[MarcieM]

Has there been any links stating if substances were found in the home?

 

[tlcya]

Has there been any links stating if substances were found in the home?

no. so far that is all speculation.

 

[MarcieM]

no. so far that is all speculation.

Ok, will not discuss that topic. Thank you.

 

[Andromeda]

Why do you think he may not have slept in the home on Thursday night? Couch surfing?? If any of this is true, this would totally change things!

My definition of couch surfing would be temporarily staying with a friend and sleeping on their couch because one feels they cannot be under the same roof as their s/o because of fighting.

IMO, I believe he did not sleep in the home on Thursday night because of the impression I got from their first statements to the media and DM’s subsequent statements about how fast he responded to look for the kids, and how far he said he went to find them immediately that morning. Why not take the ATV first (immediate proximity/woods,) and then the car (dirt roads and culverts) if it had allegedly only been 20 minutes since they noticed them not in the house/yard. Most importantly, for me, and IMO, if they were together under the same roof when the kids went missing, how does it make sense she could accuse him of “doing it”. By “it”, let’s say for argument sake, “it” means abduct Lilly and Jack? Because that’s what she called in and that’s what they insist happened because they lament police would not broadcast an Amber Alert for the two kids. It doesn’t make sense to me, to accuse someone of abduction who supposedly lived in the home, slept in the same bed as you and with whom you woke up the morning the kids went missing. IMO/MOO

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"My mother had to kick … some people off the property 'cause they were saying that I did it, I had something to do with it, and I'm the only one here fighting for them, which is sad," he said."
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova...g-children-lily-jack-sullivan-may-6-1.7527394

 

[Fabled Automatic]

A nagging question I've always had—and I know there's no answer, just sharing for the sake of it—is, on Friday, did the parent's call/email the school to report the kids' absence?

Edited to add: On second thought, they could have told the school in advance they'd be out all week. I'll leave this flawed little post up here anyway. I'm just sad.

I wondered about this as well. Their step-father stated they were off that day because Lilly had a cough, but that in and of itself doesn't mean they informed the school. If they didn't inform the school, it would be a safe assumption that the school bus stopped at their home that morning. No idea if it did or did not.

Unless of course, something like you stated in your edit took place.

 

[Skigh]

A nagging question I've always had—and I know there's no answer, just sharing for the sake of it—is, on Friday, did the parent's call/email the school to report the kids' absence? This might not be a requirement absolutely everywhere but it is pretty standard. And if you don't do it in time, the school immediately calls you.
To expand on why this question has been pestering me:
It would be weird to call in and report an absence without seeing your child/children first, unless they were very sick the night previous.
If they were very sick the night previous, why are they running around ("playing outside?") before the parents are even out of bed?
I mean, the answer could easily be that truancy is the norm in this household. The absolute, inarguable conclusion is that the kids were either healthy enough to go, and no one could be bothered, or they were sick, and no one could be bothered to get up and tend to them.
It's not like anything can be derived from the answer to these questions. It's just bothersome, as a parent, to consider it.

Edited to add: On second thought, they could have told the school in advance they'd be out all week. I'll leave this flawed little post up here anyway. I'm just sad.

Things really do not add up. If Lilly was genuinely not well enough for school I cannot see her wanting to go outside especially with a cough which might affect her breathing.
I can see Jack not wanting to travel on the bus alone ,but one of the adults could have driven him to school.
Neither adult being up to check them and to see if Lilly was feeling better or needed cough medicine/Calpol if she still was poorly.

 

[iamafiusny]

My definition of couch surfing would be temporarily staying with a friend and sleeping on their couch because one feels they cannot be under the same roof as their s/o because of fighting.

IMO, I believe he did not sleep in the home on Thursday night because of the impression I got from their first statements to the media and DM’s subsequent statements about how fast he responded to look for the kids, and how far he said he went to find them immediately that morning. Why not take the ATV first (immediate proximity/woods,) and then the car (dirt roads and culverts) if it had allegedly only been 20 minutes since they noticed them not in the house/yard. Most importantly, for me, and IMO, if they were together under the same roof when the kids went missing, how does it make sense she could accuse him of “doing it”. By “it”, let’s say for argument sake, “it” means abduct Lilly and Jack? Because that’s what she called in and that’s what they insist happened because they lament police would not broadcast an Amber Alert for the two kids. It doesn’t make sense to me, to accuse someone of abduction who supposedly lived in the home, slept in the same bed as you and with whom you woke up the morning the kids went missing. IMO/MOO

He does mention they were both in the room and Lilly came in several times and he told them to be quite, and hearing Jack in the kitchen.

He also mentions noticing the boots gone and mom says "we" were calling everywhere and asked him if he heard the kids when they woke up.

"It" could mean anything at this point. He was supposed to watch the kids while she slept and instead fell asleep too. He left the door open/unlocked. He left drugs out. He lost his temper. He invited certain people over. So many things.

All moo

Eta Daniel has stated a lot of things he did that morning including running ahead of all the drones and helicopters, screaming as loud as he could, running waste deep in water. He seems to have accomplished a lot in not very much time, yet didn't even see Jack the entire day.

Moo

 

[Snoop Sister]

It's been posted in the thread, she went home with her Mom and they live on a reservation. Unfortunately, I don't have a link handy.

This is not completely true. She did go to her moms. Her mom lives off reserve. Links posted previously.

 

[iamafiusny]

Interesting. I had heard there was a party there the night before and I figured they were still trying sober up at 10:00am.

Since there is now an official statement of 35 formal interviews to make I think you could phrase this as a theory that several people came to the house.

Moo

 

[MarcieM]

This is not completely true. She did go to her moms. Her mom lives off reserve. Links posted previously.

Do you have a link stating they live off the reservation? I'd love to see it. Thanks.

 

[iamafiusny]

Dbm

 

[AIGT]

He does mention they were both in the room and Lilly came in several times and he told them to be quite, and hearing Jack in the kitchen.

He also mentions noticing the boots gone and mom says "we" were calling everywhere and asked him if he heard the kids when they woke up.

"It" could mean anything at this point. He was supposed to watch the kids while she slept and instead fell asleep too. He left the door open/unlocked. He left drugs out. He lost his temper. He invited certain people over. So many things.

All moo

There is also the mom saying they were playing outside when she never would’ve actually known if they were before she later makes it a point to say that they’re not kids who go outside to play on their own, they always have a parent outside with them etc. Makes me wonder if they left the kids outside alone and something happened.

I find it interesting that (if true) the grandmother is the only one with a dog Why does Martell and MBM also have a fence up? Could be from when the grandmother lived in that trailer. Could also be to let the kids wander around by themselves.

 

[iamafiusny]

There is also the mom saying they were playing outside when she never would’ve actually known if they were before she later makes it a point to say that they’re not kids who go outside to play on their own, they always have a parent outside with them etc. Makes me wonder if they left the kids outside alone and something happened.

I find it interesting that (if true) the grandmother is the only one with a dog Why does Martell and MBM also have a fence up? Could be from when the grandmother lived in that trailer. Could also be to let the kids wander around by themselves.

At this point, unless info comes out that changes my mind, I think the entire morning is bogus and no kids were there Friday morning. Possibly no kids Wednesday or Thursday for that matter.

Moo

 

[Firstsnow4]

Since there is now an official statement of 35 formal interviews to make I think you could phrase this as a theory that several people came to the house.

Moo

Yes I agree - 35 formal interviews suggests there were several people in close contact with the children over the period of interest. A house gathering maybe? JMO.

 

[AIGT]

At this point, unless info comes out that changes my mind, I think the entire morning is bogus and no kids were there Friday morning. Possibly no kids Wednesday or Thursday for that matter.

Moo

I agree. I should’ve clarified I meant I’m wondering if something happened outside prior to Friday and Friday was performance day after they felt everything was dealt with.

Mo

 

[Loyaloil]

May 7 2025 re-post. rbbm.

What to know about search for 2 missing siblings in rural Nova Scotia | Globalnews.ca

Around 150 people have been searching daily in Pictou County for Lily and Jack Sullivan since they disappeared nearly a week ago. The search has now been scaled back.

globalnews.ca

“They hate being wet and cold, so they immediately would have come back into the house. The only two (foot) prints are right beside the house facing the road and that’s it,” he said.''

'Jack Sullivan has short, blond hair and is wearing blue dinosaur boots. Martell said he had not seen Jack on Friday morning, but believed he was wearing a brown shirt and pants with a pull-up diaper underneath.'

Facing the road - suuuuuuure.

 

[Lucy6226]

Yes I agree - 35 formal interviews suggests there were several people in close contact with the children over the period of interest. A house gathering maybe? JMO.

Could just be family members, school staff, mum's community members, 35 isn't that many really. Doesn't mean there's 35 potential suspects, they could be 35 interviews for evidence gathering. It will be interesting to see what comes of these though.

A house gathering would go a way to explain why the parents might have still been dozing in bed at 10am though. I can imagine a scenario where they were hungover, kids are making a racket and told to go play outside for a bit. All moo.

 

[Belly]

I am sure if one of them went missing it would focus your mind.

I’d be able to find what my kids wore through process of elimination. I’d hyperfocus on it as it’s valuable information when searching for signs of them. My daughter in particular has tons of clothes, but when looking through her favorites first, I’d be able to narrow down what she was wearing. I find it so so so odd the mom and stepdad can’t describe the clothing