CANADA Canada - Jack, 4 & Lilly Sullivan, 6, Vulnerable, wandered from home 10am, Gairloch Rd, Landsdowne Station, Pictou County, NS, 2 May 2025 #3

[MarcieM]

They’re guilty of neglecting the kids that morning at minimum by their own account. I don’t believe their account but if you want to believe them then they are at least guilty of neglect that morning.

I really flip flop! This article makes me think she’s the guilty one and trying to pin it on him. I really don’t know. The public just does not know enough, truthful or otherwise, with who was where doing what leading up to the disappearance.

I umderstand some say she may have been asked to leave in order to keep Meadow in her care but she then turned around and updates her relationship status on Facebook to single and he's since been standing in the line of fire alone. No matter how I look at it, I think it speaks volumes about her character.

 

[MarcieM]

The apron of the trailer is also pulled loose at one end of that mattress and it is a different color and possible material from the rest of the apron. It may be that police pulled the apron loose to search under the trailer but if not, someone should take a look.

Also the smaller stoop and stairs don't line up with that second door (you'd expect door to be centered above it for safety and would also expect a safety railing since it is several steps above ground). I wonder if that stoop is attached to the trailer or merely pushed against there. Was it recently moved?

ETA: Actually it looks like there WAS a top railing board to one side of that stoop and it is now sitting loose atop the stoop and there is what looks like a clothesline extended from a pole adjacent to the trailer wall out into the yard. Possibly safety hazard to have a clothesline reachable by a kid from that railing that now looks like it is down?

Let's hope the inside was safer for the kids because the outside looks so dangerous.

 

[iamafiusny]

Let's hope the inside was safer for the kids because the outside looks so dangerous.

Ya, I understand not being able to afford to take things to the dump. Or needing to hang on to things that might become useful in the future.

But they could have piled it up outside the play area and given them one safe place.

That fence looks like they were in the middle of building it. Wonder when that started?

Moo

 

[MarcieM]

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My mind usually goes to the step parent but here, Daniel seems genuine to me. If something happened though, I can't make it fit that they weren't in on it together unless, he spent Thursday night somewhere else.

 

[MarcieM]

Ya, I understand not being able to afford to take things to the dump. Or needing to hang on to things that might become useful in the future.

But they could have piled it up outside the play area and given them one safe place.

That fence looks like they were in the middle of building it. Wonder when that started?

Moo

Exactly, pile it up in a corner of the yard and secure a tarp over it.

 

[Bounceycat]

I could be wrong but my take is the mama did it. Her BF just seems not involved to me, at least as of now. But who knows!

I apologize if I missed this, as this thread has been moving so quickly and I've been unable to keep up the last few days - but have Mom and/or Stepdad been named POIs yet, opening us up to speculation about them? TiA

 

[Puzzles]

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I've been away for a few years, but have returned as this tragedy is taking place in the country I call home. It's a pleasure to recognize some of your names and meet new members of our group.

If Lily and Jack wandered off on their own, they must have been terrified as time passed—likewise, if a stranger seized them.

Hideous as it is to consider, if they were purposely killed by an adult they trusted and +/ or loved, I can hope their deaths were swift and painless.

While none of us knows who or what caused the little ones to disappear, I'll be surprised if DM played an active part.

 

[MarcieM]

I've been away for a few years, but have returned as this tragedy is taking place in the country I call home. It's a pleasure to recognize some of your names and meet new members of our group.

If Lily and Jack wandered off on their own, they must have been terrified as time passed—likewise, if a stranger seized them.

Hideous as it is to consider, if they were purposely killed by an adult they trusted and +/ or loved, I can hope their deaths were swift and painless.

While none of us knows who or what caused the little ones to disappear, I'll be surprised if DM played an active part.

Agree, I also seen a family photo of them all and both of the kids were standing by him, not Mom and I've always thought that actions speak louder than words. I wonder if Daniel may be the type of person that's easily lead...

 

[IzzyBlanche]

Don’t think she is.

Sullivan children still missing as RCMP interview people close to them

The RCMP say they are continuing to search for two missing children in Pictou County after an underwater recovery mission didn’t uncover any evidence. Lilly, 6, and Jack Sullivan, 4, were last seen May 2 at their home in the community of Lansdowne Station. Police said they were believed to have...

halifax.citynews.ca

Martell has been on the ground searching and providing insights to police when needed, he has said. It has been reported that the children’s mother, Brooks-Murray left the home the day after the search began, ending communication with Martell, and has been staying with her mother in Wentworth, N.S.

Martell said he is more than happy with the thoroughness of the investigation, saying people have put their lives on hold to search for the children.

He is “grateful” that police are going back and looking through the densest parts of the forest again.

I really wish the article was more specific in when he said this. It implies on the same day the article was published but doesn't quite get there.

 

[IzzyBlanche]

On one hand DM says that he was always having to tell the children to close the sliding door.

(Which suggests to me that the kids were in the habit of going out the door without closing it behind them, else why would he have to always tell them that?)

On the other hand Malehya says "We tell them not to go outside on their own, we always make sure that we’re out there with them, watching them"

(Which suggests to me that the kids were never outside on their own without an adult present.)

Seems contradictory.

 

[MarcieM]

On one hand DM says that he was always having to tell the children to close the sliding door.

(Which suggests to me that the kids were in the habit of going out the door without closing it behind them, else why would he have to always tell them that?)

On the other hand Malehya says "We tell them not to go outside on their own, we always make sure that we’re out there with them, watching them"

(Which suggests to me that the kids were never outside on their own without an adult present.)

Seems contradictory.

I think she was doing damage control here, she was trying to minimize the neglect. imo

 

[IzzyBlanche]

I think she was doing damage control here, she was trying to minimize the neglect. imo

And yet...the children in the pictures look clean, happy, and well nourished.

I find it hard to believe that if the children were being physically neglected, no other adults in their lives would have reported it, such as the bus driver or their teachers.

JMO

 

[MarcieM]

And yet...the children in the pictures look clean, happy, and well nourished.

I find it hard to believe that if the children were being physically neglected, no other adults in their lives would have reported it, such as the bus driver or their teachers.

And yet...the children in the pictures look clean, happy, and well nourished.

I find it hard to believe that if the children were being physically neglected, no other adults in their lives would have reported it, such as the bus driver or their teachers.

JMO

I really hope your right because I've legit wondered what meal times were like for the children.

 

[Cranky]

Sliding doors are heavy too. Usually when kids shut them they either don’t get it shut all the way or it slams because they have to use all of their strength to get the momentum going

I was thinking this too. When I was small our house had a sliding door. It was ok to open but it was heavy to close and whilst you could open it quietly there was no way you could close it without significant effort and hearing it make contact with the frame. The fact that the kiddos didn't usually close it bears this out IMO. It also indicates that they are used to going out on their own. I did notice that there doesn't seem to be many toys out there. Just a broken down oven thing and a dirty kiddy pool.

 

[sar2them1984]

Theres been speculation that something happened to one, intentionally or accidently, so both children disappeared.

Maybe they woke up to just Jack having ingested something the night before.

But right now I'm leaning towards neither kid there on Friday morning.

Jmo

Apologies in advance for gabbling. It's early morning here in the UK and ive slept pretty poorly for the last few nights. But jumping on this..I've thought a lot about an accident following which the children were reported "missing" to cover up the fact...but then my mind wonders what accident could have occurred which would involve both children? I'm struggling to come up with answers for that....I could very easily see an accident happening to one child, but surely if they wanted to hide that it would be much easier to disappear that child alone..why both?

It kind of makes me want to rule out the accident theory but then what are we left with? The children wandering off voluntarily (but there just seems too many red flags for this)? An abduction (although LE seemed to rule this out pretty quickly)? Or the children coming to deliberate harm and an attempt to hide that fact?...but again this raises questions. What could possibly have gone on to cause two children to be harmed? Why not all three children? Is it because it would be harder to explain away a 16 month old disappearing? Does the parentage of the older children play a part I.e they are not DMs bio children?

If it was intentional and the missing story is just that...why this particular narrative? As other posters have mentioned it would have been much less suspect to have said the sliding door was left open..or even go further and say you woke to find them both missing. Why provide a back story of bot seeing one child all morning, staying in bed until 10am etc which opens the parents up to intense scrutiny? I just don't get it

So many questions

 

[Cranky]

Do any of you know what DMs job is? I was wondering if he was a shift worker so came home to sleep which is why he'd be in bed.

Kiddos leaving the door open a lot could be explained by one person out in the yard and other person indoors. Kids come outside to play in view of person one but don't shut the door behind them. If my mum was sitting out on the garden we were in and out all the time. Out to play, in to fetch a drink, out to play, in for a snack type of thing. My dad (genuine OCD) used to be forever telling us to shut the door but the sliding doors were hard so.....

 

[sar2them1984]

Do any of you know what DMs job is? I was wondering if he was a shift worker so came home to sleep which is why he'd be in bed.

I believe it's been reported he works in a saw mill. Recently had hours cut and so works one shift a week at present

 

[iamafiusny]

If it was intentional and the missing story is just that...why this particular narrative? As other posters have mentioned it would have been much less suspect to have said the sliding door was left open..or even go further and say you woke to find them both missing. Why provide a back story of bot seeing one child all morning, staying in bed until 10am etc which opens the parents up to intense scrutiny? I just don't get it

So many questions
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Rsbm


I wonder if its just a stressed out, not very smart person, thinking they're the smartest.

Moo

 

[Poedelini]

At first glance of the interviews they are both suspicious.
That being said, there are alot of factors going into this. Mental health, relationships, finance, culture... and so on.
Police will have a pretty good idea what the most plausible reason was that Jack and Lilly are gone.
Im staying hopeful they will figure out what happened and bring Jack and Lilly home.
Jmo

 

[sar2them1984]

Rsbm


I wonder if its just a stressed out, not very smart person, thinking they're the smartest.

Moo
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You may well be right