CANADA Canada - Jack, 4 & Lilly Sullivan, 6, Vulnerable, wandered from home 10am, Gairloch Rd, Landsdowne Station, Pictou County, NS, 2 May 2025 #4

[AddyFinch]

A great way to eradicate any prior evidence of movement.

oh so correct.....!

 

[AddyFinch]

Query delay in evidence gathering/RCMP response might be due to the kayaker that drowned on May 1, body found on May 3. Or was May 2 reporting an "opportunity" when SAR teams were stretched thin?
Have LE stated any info regarding biological father CS? Has he given a statement? Or mother's family? If foul play, I wonder if the date has any significance?

 

[MistyWaters]

Query delay in evidence gathering/RCMP response might be due to the kayaker that drowned on May 1, body found on May 3. Or was May 2 reporting an "opportunity" when SAR teams were stretched thin?
Have LE stated any info regarding biological father CS? Has he given a statement? Or mother's family? If foul play, I wonder if the date has any significance?

The body of the youth who drowned at Eden Lake was recovered the evening of May 2nd. As searchers were close by, there presence there was a stated reason for the prompt response of searchers to Lansdowne Station. I doubt all SAR volunteers are trained for underwater search and rescue, perhaps those who weren’t had finished searching around the parameter of the lake.

We know nothing about anybody except for the mother and stepdad. Imagine trying to solve a missing persons case if one was to identify a possible suspect with such a narrow scope - pick A or B. The RCMP will be looking at relationship dynamics amongst the lot of them, especially anything regarding prior challenges, disputes, grievances, vendettas, animosities, or custody issues. I think there’s a much larger range of possibilities than we might expect, if the parameters remain focused on ‘suspicious’.
JMO

 

[Beekarina]

There are crimes of opportunity, of course, and it remains possible someone outside of immediate household may have known the two were not in school. Could anyone have watched the property and noticed who came and went?

I grew up in a rural part of New England. Plenty of missing, unfortunately. Once a young girl was even kidnapped the same day we had briefly played with her as kids. Different circumstances entirely, but my point being you really never know who is around and will take an opportunity or who might be grooming young kids. Yes, this location is rural, but there are still people around. Other people own the property (not in anyway suggesting they did something, but my point is they know people too so who knows how an offhand comment like "yeah, the kids all have that cold that has been going around" could catch the interest of a predator, a bus comes, there are properties near enough to have cameras which may be of interest.

I also have a thought which I expressed in the Fandel thread: if you take one child, the other one might go along out of solidarity, protection, etc. "I'm the big sister, leave my brother alone" or "hey, that's my sister NO" etc. Could something like this have happened here?

 

[AddyFinch]

my point is they know people too so who knows how an offhand comment like "yeah, the kids all have that cold that has been going around" could catch the interest of a predator, a bus comes, there are properties near enough to have cameras which may be of interest.

I also have a thought which I expressed in the Fandel thread: if you take one child, the other one might go along out of solidarity, protection, etc. "I'm the big sister, leave my brother alone" or "hey, that's my sister NO" etc. Could something like this have happened here?

Good thoughts.
My gut tells me either accidental death of both and parents trying to cover it, or a family/friend who has an axe to grind or nothing to lose, took them. They could still be alive if the later was the case.

I dont' buy into the stranger abduction but an abduction by a person who both parents know. But if this was the case, why would the LE bother with a search? They would concentrate on the person's whereabouts, vehicle, last known address etc

Are the areas down east for border crossings the same as Ontario's famous Rockham Road, or out west roads that just meld into US?? ie could he have crossed into the US without having to use a border crossing?
Could the abductor have taken the kids to US via a boat? As teenagers we used to do it on the St Lawrence every summer... beer runs . ssshhhhh...said very quietly

 

[iQuill]

I wish we knew more about Stepdads mother and brother ... Moo

 

[borndem]

Welcome to Websleuths,
Veridex !!​

 

[Beekarina]

Good thoughts.
My gut tells me either accidental death of both and parents trying to cover it, or a family/friend who has an axe to grind or nothing to lose, took them. They could still be alive if the later was the case.

I dont' buy into the stranger abduction but an abduction by a person who both parents know. But if this was the case, why would the LE bother with a search? They would concentrate on the person's whereabouts, vehicle, last known address etc

Are the areas down east for border crossings the same as Ontario's famous Rockham Road, or out west roads that just meld into US?? ie could he have crossed into the US without having to use a border crossing?
Could the abductor have taken the kids to US via a boat? As teenagers we used to do it on the St Lawrence every summer... beer runs . ssshhhhh...said very quietly

Decades ago you could slip across almost accidentally in places, I guess? I remember driving up before turning 21 too, haha. And also being in some very middle of NOWHERE places with friends where we would take some backroad and genuinely not be entirely certain if we were in the US or Canada.

Post 9/11 I would say pretty much out of the question, and definitely not in recent years.

 

[Beekarina]

Just got around to looking again at the exact location and entering the US seems exceptionally unlikely to me.

I have driven to NS via NB before and you are also in some ridiculously rural stretches in NB as well. It can be a little creepy, actually, similar to Appalachia. You're WAY back out there, or at least you were 20, 25 tears ago....think logging roads and rundown general stores where you will be STARED at by ancient men on a porch lol.

 

[GinaBeth]

Just got around to looking again at the exact location and entering the US seems exceptionally unlikely to me.

I have driven to NS via NB before and you are also in some ridiculously rural stretches in NB as well. It can be a little creepy, actually, similar to Appalachia. You're WAY back out there, or at least you were 20, 25 tears ago....think logging roads and rundown general stores where you will be STARED at by ancient men on a porch lol.

Fun fact the northernmost tip of the Appalachian range is in NB so the vibe is extremely apt.

 

[Beekarina]

Fun fact the northernmost tip of the Appalachian range is in NB so the vibe is extremely apt.

Ah! Great point.No shade meant towards any location, of course. Just an attempt to describe how rural/middle of nowhere some spots are up there. I think anyone who did not belong would 100% be noticed.

 

[GinaBeth]

Ah! Great point.No shade meant towards any location, of course. Just an attempt to describe how rural/middle of nowhere some spots are up there. I think anyone who did not belong would 100% be noticed.

Oh no shade assumed! I love our spooky lore to be honest

 

[Bigditch]

Good thoughts.
My gut tells me either accidental death of both and parents trying to cover it, or a family/friend who has an axe to grind or nothing to lose, took them. They could still be alive if the later was the case.

I dont' buy into the stranger abduction but an abduction by a person who both parents know. But if this was the case, why would the LE bother with a search? They would concentrate on the person's whereabouts, vehicle, last known address etc

Are the areas down east for border crossings the same as Ontario's famous Rockham Road, or out west roads that just meld into US?? ie could he have crossed into the US without having to use a border crossing?
Could the abductor have taken the kids to US via a boat? As teenagers we us8thed to do it on the St Lawrence every summer... beer runs . ssshhhhh...said very quietly

Not a chance with all the extra Czar- security at the moment.

 

[Dreamcherry]

I have driven to NS via NB before and you are also in some ridiculously rural stretches in NB as well. It can be a little creepy, actually, similar to Appalachia. You're WAY back out there, or at least you were 20, 25 tears ago....think logging roads and rundown general stores where you will be STARED at by ancient men on a porch lol.

Why is this so brutally accurate?

And no, it has not changed in the last 20-25 years. NB is highly resistant to modernisation, lol!

 

[AcerPacer]

Still nothing new? No further information from the 35 who were brought in for formal interviews?
Do our Canadian sleuthers think this is "normal" that absolutely nothing has been put out to msm? After all this time these kiddies being "missing" RCMP still saying absolutely nothing?

I am keenly following the Kohberger case and I think it was about 28 days before they arrested him but there was information filtering out "look out for the car" etc..

Absolutely NOTHING from RCMP??

 

[craftybatchy]

Still nothing new? No further information from the 35 who were brought in for formal interviews?
Do our Canadian sleuthers think this is "normal" that absolutely nothing has been put out to msm? After all this time these kiddies being "missing" RCMP still saying absolutely nothing?

I am keenly following the Kohberger case and I think it was about 28 days before they arrested him but there was information filtering out "look out for the car" etc..

Absolutely NOTHING from RCMP??

It might look like nothing is happening and the RCMP are dragging their feet. As an organization they are notorious for keeping things completely under wraps, then, when the public least expects, holding an absolute bombshell of a news conference. Generally speaking, our news media on this side of the border don't break a story (like this) before the RCMP does. When we hear something really significant on this investigation, it will likely come in the format of the RCMP holding a news conference.

 

[Beekarina]

Oh no shade assumed! I love our spooky lore to be honest

I have ancestry from NB--Miramichi area when it was founded, bit of a brick wall. <3

 

[seasideForest]

Still nothing new? No further information from the 35 who were brought in for formal interviews?
Do our Canadian sleuthers think this is "normal" that absolutely nothing has been put out to msm? After all this time these kiddies being "missing" RCMP still saying absolutely nothing?

I am keenly following the Kohberger case and I think it was about 28 days before they arrested him but there was information filtering out "look out for the car" etc..

Absolutely NOTHING from RCMP??

It's normal. RCMP doesn't owe us anything! It's not public entertainment and if they don't think the public can help for the moment, why would they tell us anything?

MOO

 

[TMich6811]

As an American - I find it highly respectable when other countries media are considerate about details being released by LE only

 

[Mauig’ma]

As an American - I find it highly respectable when other countries media are considerate about details being released by LE only

As much as I hate it, I’m in agreement with you on that. But pure “nosiness” of wanting to know more of the facts is very frustrating