CANADA Canada - Jack, 4 & Lilly Sullivan, 6, Vulnerable, wandered from home 10am, Gairloch Rd, Landsdowne Station, Pictou County, NS, 2 May 2025 #4

[Ontario Mom]

If the children's mother has read even a fraction of the criticism of DM after he spoke to the media, it wouldn't surprise me in the least if that has everything to do with why she has chosen not to.

Good for her, I say. Stay out of the spotlight & let the RCMP do their job in finding out what happened to those kids.

 

[Ursa Major]

While technically no, it hasn't been confirmed by the RCMP, that seems like a really dumb thing to lie about to the media.

Well the reults can be inconclusive which is nor negative nor positive. Can be interpreted in any way.

 

[Ontario Mom]

Well the reults can be inconclusive which is nor negative nor positive. Can be interpreted in any way.

I was referring to him telling the media it was himself and the children's mother that the children were seen with in public, the afternoon prior to them disappearing.

Since RCMP has stated they've confirmed the public sighting and have video, it would be insanely stupid of DM to lie about it.

 

[Ursa Major]

I was referring to him telling the media it was himself and the children's mother that the children were seen with in public, the afternoon prior to them disappearing.

Since RCMP has stated they've confirmed the public sighting and have video, it would be insanely stupid of DM to lie about it.

Oh sorry. Just figuring how to use the website.

 

[su5ie]

If the children's mother has read even a fraction of the criticism of DM after he spoke to the media, it wouldn't surprise me in the least if that has everything to do with why she has chosen not to.

Good for her, I say. Stay out of the spotlight & let the RCMP do their job in finding out what happened to those kids.

We are all individual and while I do believe no one knows how they would react in that situation. And I agree the criticism and trolling online is atrocious. But I can't understand why a family member of hers is not being a spokesperson in a situation that understandable she may be mentally unable to take on . I've seen it loads of times in different cases where a father ,uncle or aunt may be front and centre

Even with the madeleine mccann case we had Gerrys sister do media interviews before they hired a media spokesperson.

If DM jumped onto the RV to look for the children before he alerted the mum that the children were missing from the yard I can understand her keeping her distance and not appealing publicly as she has her suspicions and the reason she left the during the meeting is her suspicion was confirmed by what was said in that meeting . Her mom and herself blame DM for a reason known to them and quite possiblyto RMPC ,A reason not being divulged to Joe Public at the moment in case the suspect absconds or commits suicide and evades justice

 

[Ursa Major]

So this is only my personal opinion. About the RCMP doing their job. I think, they are taking care of this case the best possible way, considering common practice of "catch-and-release" here locally. And most times this is not up to LE guys if they're following this practice or not. Seems they really need to get the case straight & gather concrete hard evidence before they arrest a person(s) responsible. Otherwise there's a huge chance the suspect(s) may get "released with a promise to appear" until the court date.
ETA:
This may at least partially explain why there's no major updates from LE. It looks exactly how it goes here: we can hear nothing until the arrest is made.

 

[abanddb123]

There’s various other means she could express her appreciation if she chose not to appear in person. She could issue a written statement or have someone speak on her behalf. We’d have to learn more of her past before automatically concluding her indigenous ancestry influences her current behavior.

Besides, this is not about her, it’s what others have done in an attempt to bring her children home to her. To express gratitude and thankfulness is not restricted due to race.

Over four weeks have passed. I really have great difficulty believing her absence/silence is a matter of personal choice, there’s a reasonable explanation that hasn’t been made public.
JMO

I have read a few pages back, that maybe postpartum is involved. So your statements kinda made sense to me. Let's put some things on the table. Postpartum? Drugs, hard-core, passing out, accident happens, they both panic. If police think the children are not alive, the only senerios I can think of would be things like this. I do wonder why a parent would be so quiet. I can't really think of another case that this has happened. With a mother not speaking. Remember please, all my opinion and throwing thoughts around. So really, the only possibilities are, they both know things. Or it one or the other. I don't know about the postpartum thing, can a woman black out and not remember? I had postpartum anxiety, and for the love of mercy, it was wicked. I'm not feeling sorry for anyone , we don't even know it has anything do do with anything, but it is sad that there is not more done for women. Oh crap, probably for another forum. Sorry! But serious question, can a woman black out with postpartum? This would mean she doesn't remember.

 

[justice2962]

212K views · 702 reactions | Lindsay Jones asks about Lily & Jack, and the possibility of foul play / major crimes involvement / clarification about who will be involved now that they’re decided to scale back the search. ——Ground search and rescue se

Lindsay Jones asks about Lily & Jack, and the possibility of foul play / major crimes involvement / clarification about who will be involved now that they’re decided to scale back the search....

www.facebook.com

I think this video is from a while ago but I don’t recall seeing it. I was just scrolling on FB and it popped up

 

[justice2962]

I have read a few pages back, that maybe postpartum is involved. So your statements kinda made sense to me. Let's put some things on the table. Postpartum? Drugs, hard-core, passing out, accident happens, they both panic. If police think the children are not alive, the only senerios I can think of would be things like this. I do wonder why a parent would be so quiet. I can't really think of another case that this has happened. With a mother not speaking. Remember please, all my opinion and throwing thoughts around. So really, the only possibilities are, they both know things. Or it one or the other. I don't know about the postpartum thing, can a woman black out and not remember? I had postpartum anxiety, and for the love of mercy, it was wicked. I'm not feeling sorry for anyone , we don't even know it has anything do do with anything, but it is sad that there is not more done for women. Oh crap, probably for another forum. Sorry! But serious question, can a woman black out with postpartum? This would mean she doesn't remember.

a woman can experience fainting or passing out (blacking out) postpartum. This can be a sign of various serious conditions, including postpartum hemorrhage, postpartum preeclampsia, or postpartum psychosis, and should be taken seriously and reported to a healthcare provider immediately, according to BabyCenter and the Mayo Clinic.

• Postpartum Psychosis:
  A rare but serious mental health condition that can occur within the first few weeks after childbirth, often characterized by confusion, hallucinations, and delusions, which may also include symptoms like feeling very tired or weak, or passing out, according to the March of Dimes.
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[Skigh]

a woman can experience fainting or passing out (blacking out) postpartum. This can be a sign of various serious conditions, including postpartum hemorrhage, postpartum preeclampsia, or postpartum psychosis, and should be taken seriously and reported to a healthcare provider immediately, according to BabyCenter and the Mayo Clinic.

• Postpartum Psychosis:
  A rare but serious mental health condition that can occur within the first few weeks after childbirth, often characterized by confusion, hallucinations, and delusions, which may also include symptoms like feeling very tired or weak, or passing out, according to the March of Dimes.
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Her youngest child is a toddler ,16 months old.

 

[MistyWaters]

While technically no, it hasn't been confirmed by the RCMP, that seems like a really dumb thing to lie about to the media.

If a potential suspect were to lie about being sighted somewhere, wouldn’t they want to remove themselves, as opposed to adding themselves in? Can’t think of how lying to the media claiming to being there could benefit DM, given police stated they have eye witnesses and video.
JMO

 

[su5ie]

I have read a few pages back, that maybe postpartum is involved. So your statements kinda made sense to me. Let's put some things on the table. Postpartum? Drugs, hard-core, passing out, accident happens, they both panic. If police think the children are not alive, the only senerios I can think of would be things like this. I do wonder why a parent would be so quiet. I can't really think of another case that this has happened. With a mother not speaking. Remember please, all my opinion and throwing thoughts around. So really, the only possibilities are, they both know things. Or it one or the other. I don't know about the postpartum thing, can a woman black out and not remember? I had postpartum anxiety, and for the love of mercy, it was wicked. I'm not feeling sorry for anyone , we don't even know it has anything do do with anything, but it is sad that there is not more done for women. Oh crap, probably for another forum. Sorry! But serious question, can a woman black out with postpartum? This would mean she doesn't remember.

I think postpartum depression was only hypothetically suggested . Just for reference I'm posting a link with information on postpartum depression and postpartum psychosis which are entirely two different types . While they can cause brain fog , confusion ,nowhere can I find that a person would have a mental blackout . Wasn't the baby about 18 months though and generally the negative thoughts of mums who do suffer with this would have to do with harming themselves or the new baby .

Postpartum Psychosis: What It Is and What to Do About It

Not to be confused with postpartum depression, postpartum psychosis is a rare but serious mental disorder impacting new mothers. Here’s what to know and how to begin recovery.

www.webmd.com

 

[Rosydecember]

I can’t help but really zone in on what DM recently said (link below)… “
Martell also addressed rumours there was a party at the home before the children went missing.
"There was no drug party the day before the disappearance," he said. "That's absolute nonsense."

Can’t help but wonder two scenarios:

1. Drug party happened and some awful predator took the kids

2. They don’t know when the kids disappeared due their drug haze.

Probably why mom blames the step dad.
Maybe moms in rehab or in withdrawals and could explain why the youngest was taken, if that’s true. MOO all this is just speculation… not based on anything other than that odd quote

https://www.cbc.ca/lite/story/1.7548258

 

[MistyWaters]

Was it a "you killed the children " accusation or " this wouldn't have happened if you didn't bring the kids and my daughter to live in such wilderness accusation, I wonder .

I wonder did the brother or granny have something to do with it . The brother seems quite chill on the rv in pic with stepdad


Was there weapons on the property? I'm trying to figure out why child protection felt the need to remove MM from mom's care or is that a rumour not confirmed in msm . And if true why was it deemed unsafe . Children are generally not removed from the home just because it may not meet the modern standards many of us are accustomed to and also not for Untidiness. Maybe the cabin was unsanitary?? In any pics of the family they all look clean and well groomed

Surely the two sets of relatives were not hurling accusations at each other instead of reporting what they allegedly knew to police who were probably everywhere that day. Imagining something ugly like this occurring makes me feel sad for everyone involved.

 

[Judy Sleuth]

I'm seeing some posts wondering about post-partum issues. That seems less likely, given that the youngest child is 18 months old, though I expect it's different for every woman.

 

[su5ie]

Surely the two sets of relatives were not hurling accusations at each other instead of reporting what they allegedly knew to police who were probably everywhere that day. Imagining something ugly like this occurring makes me feel sad for everyone involved.

People who are afraid , and when a situation is not within the limits of control and it is a highly emotionally charged event will resort to anger as the dominant felt emotion hence why there is a lot of family fallout at funerals

 

[su5ie]

I can’t help but really zone in on what DM recently said (link below)… “
Martell also addressed rumours there was a party at the home before the children went missing.
"There was no drug party the day before the disappearance," he said. "That's absolute nonsense."

Can’t help but wonder two scenarios:

1. Drug party happened and some awful predator took the kids

2. They don’t know when the kids disappeared due their drug haze.

Probably why mom blames the step dad.
Maybe moms in rehab or in withdrawals and could explain why the youngest was taken, if that’s true. MOO all this is just speculation… not based on anything other than that odd quote

https://www.cbc.ca/lite/story/1.7548258

Personally I don't think the parents look like drug addicts maybe moonshine alcohol.

Could be as simple as mom never liked boyfriend or didn't want daughter living with her 3 children in a trailer so remotely and seized the opportunity to talk her daughter into leaving

Sorry for editing twice bloody auto spell sometimes inserts wrong word and a word wrongly placed can make the sentence have a whole other meaning

 

[MistyWaters]

I have read a few pages back, that maybe postpartum is involved. So your statements kinda made sense to me. Let's put some things on the table. Postpartum? Drugs, hard-core, passing out, accident happens, they both panic. If police think the children are not alive, the only senerios I can think of would be things like this. I do wonder why a parent would be so quiet. I can't really think of another case that this has happened. With a mother not speaking. Remember please, all my opinion and throwing thoughts around. So really, the only possibilities are, they both know things. Or it one or the other. I don't know about the postpartum thing, can a woman black out and not remember? I had postpartum anxiety, and for the love of mercy, it was wicked. I'm not feeling sorry for anyone , we don't even know it has anything do do with anything, but it is sad that there is not more done for women. Oh crap, probably for another forum. Sorry! But serious question, can a woman black out with postpartum? This would mean she doesn't remember.

Or there’s other possibilities that involve blackouts including serious mental illness such as schizophrenia especially associated with drugs or alcohol. I don’t think most woman would cover up for a partner killing her children but the partner might do so, in being protective and compassionate of her knowing she struggled with issues totally outside of her control.

But this is just my full blown speculation.

 

[iveyguy]

Was it a "you killed the children " accusation or " this wouldn't have happened if you didn't bring the kids and my daughter to live in such wilderness accusation, I wonder .

The direct quote from DM was: "My mother had to kick … some people off the property 'cause they were saying that I did it, I had something to do with it, and I'm the only one here fighting for them, which is sad," *

As usual, everything is based on things DM has said in the media and it appears these accusations were quite direct. I would add that MBM's actions since that point are generally consistent with someone who thinks their ex-partner was involved and who believes that her children aren't going to be found alive. She left immediately, stopped talking publicly, withdrew from their relationship, and even her family isn't asking for help.

*Source = CBC, May 6th: https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova...g-children-lily-jack-sullivan-may-6-1.7527394

 

[MistyWaters]

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. I would add that MBM's actions since that point are generally consistent with someone who thinks their ex-partner was involved and who believes that her children aren't going to be found alive. She left immediately, stopped talking publicly, withdrew from their relationship, and even her family isn't asking for help.

*Source = CBC, May 6th: https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova...g-children-lily-jack-sullivan-may-6-1.7527394

Can we recognize involvement just by actions alone? I don’t think so because MBM’s could go either way, as you’ve mentioned or someone who’s behaviours are generally consistent with guilty implications, she left immediately knowing the children aren’t going to be found alive, is not talking publicly, withdrew from the relationship in fear of incrimination.
JMO