CANADA Canada - Jack, 4 & Lilly Sullivan, 6, Vulnerable, wandered from home 10am, Gairloch Rd, Landsdowne Station, Pictou County, NS, 2 May 2025 #4

[Fabled Automatic]

When was the last update from the RCMP: May 18? If the ground search ended Sunday, does that mean the cops are drilling down on another angle: the parents or an abduction?
I'm still unclear on when these two children were last seen. The parents say Monday morning but we only have their word. When was the last time the kids were scene by someone else before that date?

Unless I'm confused about what you mean, the parents (DM, anyways) have consistently stated the last time they saw Lilly and heard Jack was on the morning of Friday, May 2nd.

 

[AddyFinch]

For the poster asking about a news article, I found it Globe & Mail

 

[Snoop Sister]

Unless I'm confused about what you mean, the parents (DM, anyways) have consistently stated the last time they saw Lilly and heard Jack was on the morning of Friday, May 2nd.

May 2nd is the story that was given to us by the mom and stepfather. This is not verified by anyone else or the RCMP.

 

[Snoop Sister]

When was the last update from the RCMP: May 18? If the ground search ended Sunday, does that mean the cops are drilling down on another angle: the parents or an abduction?
I'm still unclear on when these two children were last seen. The parents say Monday morning but we only have their word. When was the last time the kids were scene by someone else before that date?

The last person to publicly say they saw Lilly and Jack other than the mom and step dad, was the school bus driver. He dropped them off at their home on the Tuesday before they were reported missing.

 

[Fabled Automatic]

May 2nd is the story that was given to us y the mom and stepfather. This is not verified by anyone else or the RCMP.

Exactly. Just wanted to point out that the parents stated it was Friday, not Monday, that they last saw/heard the children.

 

[Snoop Sister]

It’s been 19 days since Lilly and Jack were reported missing.​

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'It's just really strange': Retired dog handler weighs in on search for missing N.S. children”​

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“Glenn Brown, who worked as an operational dog handler in the RCMP in several provinces for 26 years, said the fact the Sullivan children haven't been found "is just really strange."

"I find it hard to believe that a six- and four-year-old would just disappear like that," said Brown, who was involved in hundreds of searches during his career.

"I can guarantee you if I was still working today, it would be the thing to be racing around your mind all the time. Where would they have gone? We have done everything."

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scotia/it-s-just-really-strange-retired-dog-handler-weighs-in-on-search-for-missing-n-s-children-1.7538842

 

[Snoop Sister]

Exactly. Just wanted to point out that the parents stated it was Friday, not Monday, that they last saw/heard the children.

I don’t believe I said Monday?

 

[tlcya]

you didn't, the OP you were responding to did.

 

[Fabled Automatic]

I don’t believe I said Monday?

You didn't. My post you responded to was a reply to this post.

When was the last update from the RCMP: May 18? If the ground search ended Sunday, does that mean the cops are drilling down on another angle: the parents or an abduction?
I'm still unclear on when these two children were last seen. The parents say Monday morning but we only have their word. When was the last time the kids were scene by someone else before that date?

 

[Auntie Cipation]

The backpack is nagging me. I can’t put my finger on it but its one of the things that don’t add up to me ( well most in this case doesn’t so there we go).

If they wandered off taking backpack would be somewhat logical. Maybe Lilly didn’t know that she will not go to school or was upset that she will not.

As of staging backpack it doesn’t make sense to me either IMO because if backpack was staged as of “oh they left look she took backpack with her” . The story would have been a bit different perhaps .

Just pondering I guess

Another thing I wonder is how common it is for a parent of missing child not to speak up to the media? Most of the cases that I followed parents spoke to the media. I know it’s not necessity as long as they are cooperating with LE.

The skeptical/suspicious part of me says the backpack was mentioned partly to appear to be cooperating fully by offering details, but mostly because I believe the backpack *is* with Lilly and will be found when she is.

I sadly suspect whatever happened to Lilly, affected or damaged/discolored the backpack at the same time, so it had to be disappeared along with her.

And of course if the kids DID just wander away, the early searches *would* be helped by knowing a bright colored, easy-to-spot backpack might be with them.

All options open, though I do have unpleasant suspicions.

MOO

 

[aggiekel2005]

The skeptical/suspicious part of me says the backpack was mentioned partly to appear to be cooperating fully by offering details, but mostly because I believe the backpack *is* with Lilly and will be found when she is.

I sadly suspect whatever happened to Lilly, affected or damaged/discolored the backpack at the same time, so it had to be disappeared along with her.

And of course if the kids DID just wander away, the early searches *would* be helped by knowing a bright colored, easy-to-spot backpack might be with them.

All options open, though I do have unpleasant suspicions.

MOO

To add to this... bleach, especially chlorine bleach, can turn a pink backpack brown or tan...

 

[FromGermany1]

The Royal Canadian Mounted Police (RCMP) said Lilly Sullivan, 6, and Jack Sullivan, 4, were last seen on the morning of May 2, on Gairloch Road in Lansdown Station, Pictou County. Authorities believe the two wandered from their home.

Siblings Vanish from Home as Police Say They’ve Received Hundreds of Tips

The search for two young siblings from Nova Scotia, Canada, who have gone missing for almost two weeks, continues. Authorities noted that they received nearly 200 tips from the public in connection with their disappearance.

people.com

I can't remember to have heard of a road as a location, where missing children were last seen, if they were really seen at their residence instead. MOO

 

[Sillybilly]

The Royal Canadian Mounted Police (RCMP) said Lilly Sullivan, 6, and Jack Sullivan, 4, were last seen on the morning of May 2, on Gairloch Road in Lansdown Station, Pictou County. Authorities believe the two wandered from their home.

Siblings Vanish from Home as Police Say They’ve Received Hundreds of Tips

The search for two young siblings from Nova Scotia, Canada, who have gone missing for almost two weeks, continues. Authorities noted that they received nearly 200 tips from the public in connection with their disappearance.

people.com

I can't remember to have heard of a road as a location, where missing children were last seen, if they were really seen at their residence instead. MOO

It's a language thing FG ... a common way to refer to a residence as being "on" a street. (i.e. "Joe lives on Smith Street" would not mean he literally lives on the street, just that the house address he lives in is on Smith Street, as in 12345 Smith St).

 

[MistyWaters]

The Royal Canadian Mounted Police (RCMP) said Lilly Sullivan, 6, and Jack Sullivan, 4, were last seen on the morning of May 2, on Gairloch Road in Lansdown Station, Pictou County. Authorities believe the two wandered from their home.

Siblings Vanish from Home as Police Say They’ve Received Hundreds of Tips

The search for two young siblings from Nova Scotia, Canada, who have gone missing for almost two weeks, continues. Authorities noted that they received nearly 200 tips from the public in connection with their disappearance.

people.com

I can't remember to have heard of a road as a location, where missing children were last seen, if they were really seen at their residence instead. MOO

That statement threw me for a loop also. I think it’s a mistake and “at their residence” on Gairloch Road got left on the cutting room floor. It’s never been reported as last seem on the road in any other subsequent RCMP releases either, just that first one.
JMO

 

[ttjo]

. IMHO something was scheduled or expected later Friday or on the weekend where other people would see the kids, so they needed to be reported missing before whatever that event was.

Could it be as simple as thats when the other's ( D.M's mom and brother) would see the kids are not home. How would they explain that? Im sure they know the kids don't see their dad and arent on a home visit?

 

[Snoop Sister]

DBM. Others responded the same as I did.

 

[Skigh]

Could it be as simple as thats when the other's ( D.M's mom and brother) would see the kids are not home. How would they explain that? Im sure they know the kids don't see their dad and arent on a home visit?

Or that they usually saw her family at the weekend.

 

[ttjo]

Or that they usually saw her family at the weekend.

Exactly, not seeing them for 2 days would be noticeable especially if its not routine.

 

[ttjo]

When I learned the backpack was missing, the detail struck me as very odd as well because IMO it is a personal extension of the student and not a “toy” (unless the student gets a new one and the old one is repurposed.) That’s the way we rolled when my kids were growing up. The lunch bag was stored in the backpack once it was cleaned out, along with the Agenda (parent/teach communication medium) after it was read and signed.

It’s shopped for as part of the back-to-school items. It’s chosen like it would be a coat. It’s a personal reflection of the owner and it’s something the student can immediately recognized. So, like part of their school uniform, and IMO it has this intrinsic boundary attached to it as to it’s purpose.

This is why the morning narrative never made sense to me as it even being part of a non-school day. If non-school day, it would be dormant. A school day would be routine, would encompass making lunches and packing them into the backpack. At this age, it’s the parent who packs it, not the student unless they are retrieving their lunch/putting them back after lunch (teachers pack what is going home with the student, i.e., art).

If Jack didn’t have to have his own backpack at that age (pre-primary is voluntary), does that mean Lilly would pack his lunch to school for him? Why the mention of only one backpack?

If Lilly decisively decided she was going to school that day, then she was either too early or she missed the bus because the bus driver would not stop for the kids if they were not at their stop. Especially not in an 80km speed zone with a soft shoulder. As well, he would never allow them onto the bus unless a parent/known guardian was with them. Most importantly, as part of the routine, she would have made her lunch and evidence of that would have been something to indicate her intentions that morning before setting out.

Nobody mentions what time school starts or what time her bus typically picked her up (could she tell basic time?) I google directioned their approximate location and the school. There is 18 km between point A and point B. So that’s approximately 15 minutes on the bus, direct, in an on average 80km speed zone through a very rural part of the community.

jmo/moo

That's a pretty good argument to rule out them attempting to get on the bus themselves
The possibilities are getting narrower.

 

[ttjo]

As well, if Lily thought she was going to school, she would have probably packed a little lunch, even if all snacks. After that many days there isnt even a trace of a juice box or a wrapper. They found a little star sticker, so I dont think they'd miss any evidence of them eating whatever she may have packed in a lunch.