CANADA Canada - Jack, 4 & Lilly Sullivan, 6, Vulnerable, wandered from home 10am, Gairloch Rd, Landsdowne Station, Pictou County, NS, 2 May 2025 #4

[tlcya]

I think those other members who suggest that the sighting was via video on May 1 are correct. and the use of the term "in public" would seem to suggest they were seen somewhere away from the residence/property.

Maybe a gas station or convenience or grocery store, pharmacy, something like that. JMO

 

[Bigditch]

Since DM did describe their clothing or at least Lilly's, it would also be helpful to give a photo to the public, of her backpack, the white one with strawberries on it -- that might have turned brown by now ?
Imo.

I remember the boots, but not the clothing?

 

[Bigditch]

I think those other members who suggest that the sighting was via video on May 1 are correct. and the use of the term in public" would seem to suggest they were seen somewhere away from the residence/property.

Maybe a gas station or convenience or grocery store, pharmacy, something like that. JMO

So it suggests that LE is looking for whomever Lilly & Jack left with that day.

 

[branmuffin]

Bbm.
Yes, curious about that !
Why does the RCMP want security footage from the days before May 1st ?

The RCMP are not acting as if the kids wandered off, although they haven't stated definitively that they do not think it could've happened.
Everything is still on the table for LE, except I think -- a kidnapping (hence no Amber Alert)

I was thinking they were seen in a vehicle on security cameras, but both were asleep ?
So, a sighting doesn't mean they were sitting up or out walking around.
Imo.

From the 28th of April is definitely odd, imo.

 

[iamafiusny]

From the 28th of April is definitely odd, imo.

Very specific times, too, not full days. 12pm of the 28th to 12pm of the 2nd, which is after the 911 call was placed.

 

[branmuffin]

I am mostly of the opinion something nefarious most likely happened to these two young children. However, I do have this nagging thought that after a few days off from school (bored at home) could the children have tried to get to school by themselves that morning? End of year fun activities are a huge draw for young children (field days, talent shows, award ceremonies) Did they possibly try to go to their bus stop without parents knowing hence LS’s backpack missing? Tried to walk to school if missed bus? Really got lost trying to walk to school or picked up by a bad character? Wish we were privy to their usual routines. Such a very scary, sad and strange situation.

In Canada the schoolyear for elementary students doesn't end until the end of June.

 

[branmuffin]

Those dates seem odd to me. I'm sure the police have corroborated that Jack and Lilly were in school on the 28th which was a Monday. Supposedly they were in school on Tuesday, too, since the school bus driver verified that. There is a video of him showing the name tags for Lilly and Jack who sat at the front of the bus. So right now, I'd like to know who has verified seeing those kids on May 1st. And I don't mean family members, like MBM, BM, his brother or his mother.

If it's someone who lives on Gairloch Rd who saw them playing outside when they drove by I'd take that as a legitimate sighting however brief. But it's very difficult for me to acknowledge that the individuals LE mentioned have provided legitimate input as to their whereabouts on May 1 are other family members who live on the property. Because the brother and mother said diddly squat while the place was a zoo after Lilly and Jack were reported missing. It was crawling with LE, reporters, various search teams, etc. They never came on camera and verified seeing those kids on May 2nd. Which to me, imo, seems counter to what most family members would do when a child who lives basically with them never said a word. Other than kicking MCM's mother off the property when she accused BM of being involved in their disappearance.

Responding to my own post:
And there's so many other little details that really play with my mind that have never been addressed. Like the dog(s)? and cats that supposedly live on the property with the mom and brother. Why not? And where are they? The reason that bothers me is that a lot of dogs get a little aggressive when children scream. And we know that Lilly screams and screams. I don't know why she screams: it may be excitement, or out of pain, overstimulation or frustration but dogs can't interpret the reason but can see screaming as aggression and retaliate in kind. Hugging dogs while screaming and yelling only intensifies a dog's fear of aggression without being able to interpret whether they are in danger or not. And where are those pets now? Has anyone seen them?

Another thing that bothers me is seeing that image of BM and his brother after they had apparently gone out on their four wheelers looking for the kids. BM was standing while his brother didn't have a care in the world, stretched out, legs crossed and hands behind his head while he reclined on the four wheeler. It bothered me. His physical demeanor did not reflect the seriousness of the situation they were in.

All of these little subsets of the circumstances surrounding these missing children stand out to me as an anomaly that I can't reconcile. MOO, IMO

 

[tlcya]

I find it odd that very early on after her initial interview with press MBM was told not to discuss the case with the public (press) per her own mother. And yet DM continued to give interview after interview for the next week and then he stated he'd been told to stop speaking publicly about the case. Was he not told that at the same time MBM was told? If not then why not? If so then why did he apparently not heed that directive?

 

[branmuffin]

I find it odd that very early on after her initial interview with press MBM was told not to discuss the case with the public (press) per her own mother. And yet DM continued to give interview after interview for the next week and then he stated he'd been told to stop speaking publicly about the case. Was he not told that at the same time MBM was told? If not then why not? If so then why did he apparently not heed that directive?

Well, there could be some methodology there; letting someone speak their way into an arrest or providing or changing the narrative that can provide new leads for LE, not necessarily focusing on the speaker.

 

[iamafiusny]

I find it odd that very early on after her initial interview with press MBM was told not to discuss the case with the public (press) per her own mother. And yet DM continued to give interview after interview for the next week and then he stated he'd been told to stop speaking publicly about the case. Was he not told that at the same time MBM was told? If not then why not? If so then why did he apparently not heed that directive?

I've had these same thoughts and also find it odd that no one is out keeping the kids names in the news. Even if you can't speak about the case you can be showing pictures and talking about Lilly and Jack.

No one raising money for a reward or to put up a billboard or anything.

If mom is too distraught a relative could help. Silence from everyone.

DM talking a lot, but almost entirely about what he's doing to help, and not actually about the children.

Moo

 

[MistyWaters]

To hide bodies? Some go to great lengths.,,which is why there are so many cold cases.

Seeing the photos of the searchers and their equipment, I personally don’t think it’s likely anyone carted bodies very deeply into that evergreen jumble of fallen timber. They’d surely know areas closest to the home would be the first to be searched.

 

[MistyWaters]

She may well have provided information, we don't know if she has or not as they RCMP are being tight lipped.

Just because we don't know one fact, doesn't mean the opposite must be true.

The only solid fact in this case is that both children are still missing.

There could be several different explanations for her absence aside from fleeing with incriminating knowledge. Purely speculation, but with her mother’s encouragement maybe she needed to attend to her physical or mental wellbeing in some way, shape or form. You cannot rescue others if you cannot rescue yourself.
JMO

 

[Lucy6226]

I think those other members who suggest that the sighting was via video on May 1 are correct. and the use of the term "in public" would seem to suggest they were seen somewhere away from the residence/property.

Maybe a gas station or convenience or grocery store, pharmacy, something like that. JMO

I hope it was caught by CCTV or dash cam.

There was a case in the UK (Sara Sharif) iirc where dates on photos taken on a phone were altered to show she had no bruises days before her death. But they were actually taken weeks before.

 

[MistyWaters]

I remember the boots, but not the clothing?

IIRC the boots were mentioned because they were missing from in front of that silent sliding patio door, not because either of them sighted Jack or Lilly wearing them.

 

[Ontario Mom]

Another thing that bothers me is seeing that image of BM and his brother after they had apparently gone out on their four wheelers looking for the kids. BM was standing while his brother didn't have a care in the world, stretched out, legs crossed and hands behind his head while he reclined on the four wheeler. It bothered me. His physical demeanor did not reflect the seriousness of the situation they were in.

I've not seen the picture you're talking about. Can you share a link to that?

 

[Snoop Sister]

I hope it was caught by CCTV or dash cam.

There was a case in the UK (Sara Sharif) iirc where dates on photos taken on a phone were altered to show she had no bruises days before her death. But they were actually taken weeks before.

Lilly and Jack might have been seen by towns people as well as cctv. Not all people will get involved with the media circus and fb. They could have phoned in a tip.

 

[MistyWaters]

So it suggests that LE is looking for whomever Lilly & Jack left with that day.

No, it doesn’t suggest that the way I read it, just that the RCMP have proof the children were sighted on the afternoon of May 1st which puts to rest the speculation that something nefarious happened to the children earlier.
JMO

Missing N.S. kids spotted day before disappearance, stepfather says he’s taken polygraph | Globalnews.ca

Lilly and Jack Sullivan, aged six and four, went missing nearly four weeks ago. RCMP confirm the siblings were seen in public the day before being reported missing.

globalnews.ca

“In a Wednesday update, RCMP said they’ve confirmed the two were “observed in public with family members on the afternoon of May 1” based on details they’ve gathered. They later clarified that confirmation was made by both video evidence and eyewitness accounts.”

 

[ChatteringBirds]

Since they didn't say, Seen in public with their parents, I'm going to speculate at least one other relative was in the May 1 footage. JMO.

 

[tlcya]

Martell told CBC News on Friday via e-mail that he was told by police not to disclose updates during the investigation.

The children's maternal grandmother, Cyndy Murray, has said police have advised the family against speaking to the media.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova...edented-case-of-missing-ns-children-1.7536905

In a Wednesday update, RCMP said they’ve confirmed the two were “observed in public with family members on the afternoon of May 1” based on details they’ve gathered. They later clarified that confirmation was made by both video evidence and eyewitness accounts.
[snip]
In an interview Wednesday, Martell reiterated he offered to take a polygraph test, which he said has now taken place.

“I do have results and I don’t know if I can share those results, but they were good in my favour. I’ll say that,” he said.
[snip]
“Trust the RCMP word and, I mean, you don’t have to trust my word, but I’m the only one doing media for Jack and Lilly — trying to keep this story alive and get them found,” he said.
Missing N.S. kids spotted day before disappearance, stepfather says he’s taken polygraph | Globalnews.ca

and just like that DM speaks again. What happened to him saying he was cautioned not to disclose updates? He didn't even last a week. Almost like he cannot help himself.

Sigh, this case is maddening. Where are Lily and Jack?

 

[FansBlowing]

RCMP might include DM as a family member, since he and Malehya have a baby together. They can't say "parents" since DM is not the missing kids' bio dad.