CANADA Canada - Jack, 4 & Lilly Sullivan, 6, Vulnerable, wandered from home 10am, Gairloch Rd, Landsdowne Station, Pictou County, NS, 2 May 2025 #5

[dotr]

Cash reward offered for information about missing Nova Scotia children

A cash reward is now being offered for information about the disappearance of two young children in Nova Scotia’s Pictou County.

www.cp24.com

 

[Bigditch]

small children missing for 6 weeks and no cadaver dogs sounds really out there for me unless they are absolutely sure they are not in that area

It is strange. A dog can go where humans cannot.

 

[FansBlowing]

Daniel said that a social worker with Child Protective Services visited them several months ago in regards to concerns relayed by the school regarding developmental delays of the children.

Did CPS think that these developmental delays were caused by neglect or abuse?

 

[AddyFinch]

Daniel said that a social worker with Child Protective Services visited them several months ago in regards to concerns relayed by the school regarding developmental delays of the children.

Did CPS think that these developmental delays were caused by neglect or abuse?

could be. I think Nova Scotia has a lunch program, so it can't be not sending lunches, maybe state of clothing or skin/hair, maybe bruising

 

[AddyFinch]

Daniel said that a social worker with Child Protective Services visited them several months ago in regards to concerns relayed by the school regarding developmental delays of the children.

Did CPS think that these developmental delays were caused by neglect or abuse?

Wouldn't school refer the kids to school specialists for testing. Or maybe MBM refused to allow it to be done?

 

[atomicsciencegal]

Wouldn't school refer the kids to school specialists for testing. Or maybe MBM refused to allow it to be done?

Testing for additional needs is in no way done through the school. It is done through the local health authority.
The school will offer assistance in appropriate ways, but no testing is done through a school in Canada.
(I am a Canadian living in Canada with a school aged disabled child with additional needs.)

 

[su5ie]

Has this been posted already??

Rewards for Major Unsolved Crimes | novascotia.ca

I wonder why lilly brought her bag and what did it contain ?

Was jack naked from the waist up ? . Did he normally play outside like this?
Did she always bring it out to play ?

And if so what items did she normally stuff it with.

I think it's important to know what's inside as it may give a clue to were they were heading . Did she bring the items she would normally bring to the cabin or swimming costume for example.

Maybe because I have clinically diagnosed ocd I just assume by process of elimination it would be easy to narrow down what items they brought and that can be told to the public so they can be reported if a member of the public sees a discarded children's toy etc Because without prior knowledge you might just pass it by without a second glance and disregard the importance of it . Obviously at the moment everyone local is on high alert but months down the line when it's a distance memory for most .it's helpful to have a visual as an image tends to stick in ones mind

Like did they bring food , was it in wrappers ? Is the piece of blanket found belonging to a blanket that is actually missing .

The blanket piece actually has my radar up for a possible cover up of murder or accidentally death of the two kids on the property and then bodies wrapped up and brought to another place . Its an act a parent would do placing a dead child in a blanket they treasured . ,this scenario is low down on my list of possibilities but it did cross my mind

 

[MistyWaters]

Daniel said that a social worker with Child Protective Services visited them several months ago in regards to concerns relayed by the school regarding developmental delays of the children.

Did CPS think that these developmental delays were caused by neglect or abuse?

Probably not as Lilly and Jack weren’t removed from the home (unfortunately).

 

[su5ie]

Cash reward offered for information about missing Nova Scotia children

A cash reward is now being offered for information about the disappearance of two young children in Nova Scotia’s Pictou County.

www.cp24.com

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Ah god ,their little sweet faces . It's absolutely awful that they are missing.
Seeing those photos really brings it home how sad it is .

 

[Ontario Mom]

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It seems to me the school were concerned about the children being neglected.

The article is behind a paywall for me. Curious, does it mention anything about neglect?

 

[su5ie]

Missing Nova Scotia children were assessed by child welfare agency

Missing Nova Scotia children were assessed by child welfare agency months before disappearance

Lilly and Jack Sullivan have been missing since early May, and a police investigation is under way

www.theglobeandmail.com

Might be paywalled? I’m a subscriber.

Quoting from the article:

Nova Scotia’s child protection agency investigated the living conditions of Jack and Lilly Sullivan months before their mysterious disappearance in early May – a case file that has been reviewed by the minister responsible for child welfare.

Scott Armstrong, Nova Scotia’s Minister of Opportunities and Social Development, confirmed in an interview that the agency had a file on the children prior to their disappearance, but said it would be inappropriate for him to discuss the agency’s findings.

I expected as much seems to be the norm in a lot of missing kids cases

 

[FansBlowing]

Chris Watts killed his two young daughters so that they wouldn't tattle on him for killing their mom. Since Lilly and Jack "will talk your ear off", were they tattling on their parents at school? Over what, I have no idea.

 

[Skigh]

The article is behind a paywall for me. Curious, does it mention anything about neglect?

It is my opinion ,not a factual statement.

 

[MistyWaters]

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Their developmental delays were already disclosed by their mother. As I recall she stated they were behind other children in school in her one and only interview with the media. Autism was also mentioned.

 

[FansBlowing]

The article is behind a paywall for me. Curious, does it mention anything about neglect?

Nope.

 

[su5ie]

Testing for additional needs is in no way done through the school. It is done through the local health authority.
The school will offer assistance in appropriate ways, but no testing is done through a school in Canada.
(I am a Canadian living in Canada with a school aged disabled child with additional needs.)

Can a school in Canada refer a child to the health board for assessment if they have concerns about their development or behavioral issues

In ireland we have NEPS . Which is intials for national educational psychological service . Their purpose is to address learning ,behaviour and social- emotional needs . They conduct psychological assessments to identify needs and inform interventions. They can also assess for autism ,adhd and specific learning difficulties like dyslexia. They do not diagnosis but can support a child's needs and can forward a referral if needed .
I'm sure they would inform child protection agencies ( tulsa ) if they suspected neglect was the cause of delays and behavioural issues

 

[AddyFinch]

Can a school in Canada refer a child to the health board for assessment if they have concerns about their development or behavioral issues

In ireland we have NEPS . Which is intials for national educational psychological service . Their purpose is to address learning ,behaviour and social- emotional needs . They conduct psychological assessments to identify needs and inform interventions. They can also assess for autism ,adhd and specific learning difficulties like dyslexia. They do not diagnosis but can support a child's needs and can forward a referral if needed .
I'm sure they would inform child protection agencies ( tulsa ) if they suspected neglect was the cause of delays and behavioural issues

Way back when we had child school psychologists, but in todays world, I have no idea.
We also had truant officers..... LOL... we were terrified of them.

 

[AddyFinch]

Which brings me back to "customary care". Would she have given them to the Band to protect and raise?

 

[ttjo]

You're good!! I felt there was a previous file started on those little bunnies. This makes the possibility of abduction better. A do gooder, a reason to hide them from CPS, family, friend???
No wonder MBM isn't talking, she's embarrassed, terrified or really doesn't care??? Yikes or worse. Bet it was a teacher.

usually if there is a safety concern about the property, they give you some expectations and timelines to complete, when they come back. if up to snuff, they go away. probably why there were fence boards there, to comply with a soc serv request. and small kids close to a hwy with no fence could be a safety concerm ,

 

[MistyWaters]

Which brings me back to "customary care". Would she have given them to the Band to protect and raise?

What we don’t know is the findings following the CPS report. But if it involved ‘living conditions’ I think that would go beyond a messy yard or house, onward toward neglectful parenting. That can often be recognized by something as simple as children not dressed appropriately to the climate. Was there a recent improvement or had both MBM and DM just threw up their hands in defeat over the job of parenting 2 possibly autistic children as much too difficult and the writing was on the wall? Given their comments after the disappearance it was if they were intentionally emphasizing their neglect of both Jack and Lilly.

So I agree, maybe MBM did hand the children over to the band to protect and raise in order to avoid government intervention. Murdering the children and going to jail wouldn’t pose much of a solution.
JMO

BBM

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