CANADA Canada - Jack, 4 & Lilly Sullivan, 6, Vulnerable, wandered from home 10am, Gairloch Rd, Landsdowne Station, Pictou County, NS, 2 May 2025 #5

[su5ie]

New article here: https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova...o-two-missing-n-s-children-revealed-1.7564451

A lot of new stuff, well 3 new pieces of information,

Confirmation of bio dads name

Kids were last seen grocery shopping with Malehya, Daniel and meadow previously it was reported as just Daniel

Cadaver dogs not used in search yet

This third bit annoys me , why not ,what's the delay . Kids are missing over 6 weeks if they are dead which most likely they are . Surely bringing in these specialists canines is necessary at this stage

 

[MistyWaters]

I agree. JMO, perhaps LE/RCMP decided after tracking/scent dogs turned up nothing related to Lilly and/or Jack having gone into and/or being in the woods, and they had not been found and were presumed to no longer be alive, that the trail was cold and they/their bodies were not in the woods, so no need to deploy cadaver dogs.

From reading this article about a missing man in NB, I think you’re right. Since no evidence was found in the forest to indicate the children were ever lost and wandering in the search area, there’s no reason to deploy cadaver dogs. Furthermore it appears the RCMP recently switched their focus from “believed to have wandered” to a crime was committed (re- N.S. Crime Reward Fund) although we don’t know the reason yet.

In response to other comments - It’s not that N.S. doesn’t have cadaver dogs. The RCMP is a national police force, not provincial, and they have 12 cadaver dogs in 2023 with more in training. If necessary the RCMP will pay to use dogs from outside agencies.
JMO

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/missing-search-human-remains-cadaver-dogs-pennfield-rcmp-paul-doughty-amanda-saia-1.6876927

 

[Alice Ramnit]

Has this been posted already??

Rewards for Major Unsolved Crimes | novascotia.ca

 

[Skigh]

Has this been posted already??

Rewards for Major Unsolved Crimes | novascotia.ca

Yes,on the previous page.

 

[su5ie]

There definitely is a lot to unpack in that interview.

He keeps saying he doesn't know if he can say/ he doesn't want to impede the investigation but he carries on giving out information anyway.

I just find it hard to believe him. He seems quite nonchalant considering the situation.

These kids are not his biological children so it pains me to say he would not have the same attachment to them as biological parents.

I'm sure he was emotionally invested in their lives otherwise he would not be giving his time to the press .And in some cases , step ,foster and adoptive parents are more attached than bio parents so prehaps he does consider the kids part of him but it is most likely easier on him mentally than Maleyha imo

But is his motive either conscious or unconscious to prove to Maleyha his commitment to her and the kids or to prove to her family he is there for them and really cares or is it to prove his innocence in the eyes of Canadians

 

[Ontario Mom]

From reading this article about a missing man in NB, I think you’re right. Since no evidence was found in the forest to indicate the children were ever lost and wandering in the search area, there’s no reason to deploy cadaver dogs. It’s not that N.S. doesn’t have any, the RCMP is a national police force, not provincial, and they have 12 cadaver dogs at present. If necessary they can pay to use dogs from outside agencies.

Furthermore it appears the RCMP recently switched their focus from “believed to have wandered” to a crime was committed (re- N.S. Crime Reward Fund) although we don’t know the reason yet.
JMO

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/missing-search-human-remains-cadaver-dogs-pennfield-rcmp-paul-doughty-amanda-saia-1.6876927

How do we reconcile that with what the search organizer Amy Hansen recently said?

"Despite the lack of evidence, Hansen still believes the children are in the woods. "They're small. They'd be hiding. They would have crawled underneath something probably when they got tired. They could have gone further than what we searched," she said. https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova...o-two-missing-n-s-children-revealed-1.7564451

If those were my kids, and one experienced searcher was saying she believes the kids are still in the woods, I'd be camping (literally) on RCMP's doorstep until they brought the cadaver dogs out to find them.

 

[su5ie]

N.S. missing kids: Province offers $150K reward in search for Lilly and Jack | Globalnews.ca

Their disappearance has been added to the province's Major Unsolved Crimes Program, which the province says is a 'tool to help police in major unsolved crime cases.'

globalnews.ca

Nova Scotia is offering a reward of up to $150,000 for information in the disappearance of two young children who were last seen more than a month and a half ago.

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Their disappearance has been added to the province’s Major Unsolved Crimes Program, which the province says is a “tool to help police in major unsolved crime cases.”

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That might bring the squirrels down from the trees or the worms from the woodwork

 

[su5ie]

I tried googling to find out if Nova Scotia has any cadaver dogs, and the only thing I could find was that they only had one cadaver dog named Doc in 2017. Maybe they do not have any cadaver trained dogs that they can use?

In ireland garda have to borrow cadaver dog from the psni ( police ) from Northern Ireland ( for those not aware NI( 6 Northern counties) is governed by England and the rest of the 26 counties governed by irish government. )

They borrowed the cadaver dog for the tina satchwell case and found her body ( case is on WS )

 

[su5ie]

I think the offering of the reward is a significant change of tactic in the investigation, is it to draw someone out to possibly confirm a suspicion the RCMP already have but with no evidence they can't take it further .

Has there been other missing child cases where bio mum has been a no show and left the area been searched ?

I can understand why she would leave so quickly if she highly suspects or knows Daniel harmed or killed her kids but other than that idk

One thing I will say is I look at Daniel's constant media presence objectively. It doesn't prove his innocence the same way Maleyha's lack of it as guilt .

I mentioned Tina satchwell above . Her husband Richard was constantly doing media interviews and crying in those interviews and "helping" investigators He also found stuff he pertained to be proof tina left him . A lot felt sorry for him and believed tina left him . He also came across as uneducated and too stupid to cover up a murder . But 7 years later it transpired he not only killed her but dug a grave under the stairs in their house and concreted it over concealing her body , re plastered the wall and no one would be any the wiser only for an astute forensic expert to notice in photos the house had changed and the cadaver dog was brought in and found tina . He also had a brass neck when it came to inviting journalists into his home to only sit on a sofa next to tinas hidden remains .remember remarking to a friend ,That her family must not be around as it was radio silence from them basically for the 7 years . I also remember Richard saying he would do a polygraph among other things

Some people can sit in front of journalists and interviewers and be convincing in their concern and worry . So I wouldn't take it as evidence of Daniel being truthful and sincere tbh

 

[TMich6811]

small children missing for 6 weeks and no cadaver dogs sounds really out there for me unless they are absolutely sure they are not in that area

 

[chopper.wife]

This case is very confusing to me. I feel like I can't figure out what is likely to have happened and switch between thinking they for sure wandered off and got lost to being sure that something accidental happened that one/both parents tried to conceal. The police must have more info than they are divulging to the public though... the reward money suggests they are leaning more towards people keeping their mouths shut about something

 

[tlcya]

yes, that reward. I haven't seen a reward for information for a child(ren) that has allegedly wandered off into the woods before. Maybe it's more common than I think.

To me, a reward suggests they think there is information out there that might lead to resolving the case. I cannot imagine a situation where a witness would exist who saw two children roaming in the woods and would need a monetary reward to come forward and say so. Had there been a witness who saw a child or children in the woods no reward would be needed a month and a half later to coax that info out

 

[AddyFinch]

From the article:

“RCMP confirmed in a statement that cadaver dogs have not been deployed as part of the investigation.

‘Any searches involving the dog will be based on information gathered through the ongoing investigation,’ the statement said.”

Do the RCMP dual train their dogs in the canine units, or are they task specific for Nova Scotia?

 

[AddyFinch]

Some people can sit in front of journalists and interviewers and be convincing in their concern and worry . So I wouldn't take it as evidence of Daniel being truthful and sincere tb

Sad to say, but there are many folk out there that love the media. Some profit off it.
It's like serial litigators, have one on my street like that.
If they were my kids, no one in this family would be talking/giving interviews etc, or turning it into the gong show, and we would want the cadaver dogs out there to bring their little bodies home for burial. Why they haven't been deployed at this point is strange, maybe LE does believe they are still alive.
I wonder what has to be proven to have a circumstantial case??

 

[Slebby]

From the article:

“RCMP confirmed in a statement that cadaver dogs have not been deployed as part of the investigation.

‘Any searches involving the dog will be based on information gathered through the ongoing investigation,’ the statement said.”

It’s disappointing to know cadaver dogs have not been deployed. Maybe I’m wrong, but wouldn’t it be kind of easy to have the dog sniff around the property, the vehicle, etc? If the dog alerts to the presence of human decomp, doesn’t this help the investigation to know a dead body had been there?
IMO

 

[iveyguy]

yes, that reward. I haven't seen a reward for information for a child(ren) that has allegedly wandered off into the woods before. Maybe it's more common than I think.

I learned this today. Nova Scotia has a large list (over 100) of unsolved cases and " The Department of Justice is offering cash rewards of up to $150,000 for information leading to the arrest and conviction of person(s) responsible" - Rewards for Major Unsolved Crimes | novascotia.ca

So, while this is a major update, it shouldn't be interpreted as a $150k reward specifically for this case. And judging by the volume in that list, $150k might not be enough to get people to talk in a homicide case. However, it would be life-changing money for someone living in poverty. I'm not confident that this will produce a breakthrough...

 

[doublestop]

I can't see any reason not to have brought in cadaver dogs by now unless they are absolutely certain that the kids didn't wander off. If they are not certain of that, what could it possibly hurt to bring them in? And it might provide more evidence/indication that something nefarious happened to Lilly and Jack if it were to alert on the house or car.

What other reason might there be not to have brought them in, other than certainty that there would be no point?

 

[Ikshar]

I learned this today. Nova Scotia has a large list (over 100) of unsolved cases and " The Department of Justice is offering cash rewards of up to $150,000 for information leading to the arrest and conviction of person(s) responsible" - Rewards for Major Unsolved Crimes | novascotia.ca

So, while this is a major update, it shouldn't be interpreted as a $150k reward specifically for this case. And judging by the volume in that list, $150k might not be enough to get people to talk in a homicide case. However, it would be life-changing money for someone living in poverty. I'm not confident that this will produce a breakthrough...

I am surprised Dylan Ehler is not also on that list.

 

[Bigditch]

This is most likely those multiple trail cameras that were reported on earlier.

The way it was worded made me think it was vehicle traffic.

 

[su5ie]

I can't see any reason not to have brought in cadaver dogs by now unless they are absolutely certain that the kids didn't wander off. If they are not certain of that, what could it possibly hurt to bring them in? And it might provide more evidence/indication that something nefarious happened to Lilly and Jack if it were to alert on the house or car.

What other reason might there be not to have brought them in, other than certainty that there would be no point?

I think it's time a dog trained to detect human remains is brought in . I really get annoyed when it's months or even years later that this decision is made and the remains are found right away by the canine. I feel it prolongs the pain of not knowing for families.

As you say what's the harm in seeing if the dog alerts . Unless they know the kids are not there but that would imply that they believe the kids were abducted or murdered and taken away from the scene and search area . I don't know how much these dogs cost per hour but I would definitely donate if that is what it takes .

I can see this being the next move bringing them in as why else mention that they haven't.

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