CANADA Canada - Jack, 4 & Lilly Sullivan, 6, Vulnerable, wandered from home 10am, Gairloch Rd, Landsdowne Station, Pictou County, NS, 2 May 2025 #6

[MistyWaters]

I think the 'piece of blanket' could be two things. One, someone misinterpreted the pink ribbons searchers are placing in trees, etc with one that might have ended up on the ground. They are probably all pre-cut to a certain length and could be misplaced or dropped by a search team member. The second is that it really is a piece of Lilly's blanket and was being carried by one of the kid's and somehow they stood on it, tearing it and leaving a shred behind. Or it got caught on some random junk placed around the yard.

Pink ribbons, excellent point!

Once it had been found, DNA tests don’t take weeks anymore. So my theory - it was tested right away and revealed absolutely no DNA of Lilly, that’s why the pipeline trail was put on the bottom of the list for search priority. SAR didn’t search the pipeline trail until May 30th/June 1st weekend, a month after the disappearance. If DNA testing connected the fabric to be a piece of Lilly’s blanket they would’ve immediately searched that location while there was still a chance she’d be found alive.
JMO

 

[branmuffin]

2 I think the SAR lady saying she believes the kids are still out there wasn’t really allowed to say anything different. It’s not her job to speculate on other theories, and her comment gave a lot of people hope. But I’m not sure if that was her genuine opinion or just the safest thing to say to the news to avoid getting in trouble or dragged into the circus

I think she's entitled to her own opinion even if she was involved in the search. It could be wishful thinking on her part plus she's probably aware that no matter how many people comb an area looking for missing people it's happened quite a few times that weeks, months or years later the missing person is found in an area that was searched and cleared.

 

[AddyFinch]

I used to work for the OPP. Indian policing was under the umbrella of the OPP and the OPP was under the umbrella of the Ministry of the Solicitor General. It's gone back and forth between the SolGen and the Attorney General over the years but Aboriginal affairs relating to policing has never been a ministry unto itself. Aboriginal police could investigate anything under the Criminal Code of Canada up to murder or serious assault. Bands are still subject to the laws under the Criminal Code of Canada.

And her band does have a detachment. It’s either Millbrook or Sipekne’katik, both have Rcmp satellite offices. Probably Millbrook

 

[AddyFinch]

I see it looks like some painting has been happening in yard from above cbc video

 

[TMich6811]

If he gave up all parental rights he wouldn't have been liable for child support. There would be a court record regarding his termination of parental rights. Not parental custody, they are two different things. If he gave up custody he'd still be required to pay child support and the paternal grandmother might have still been ablet to see her grandchildren.

I guess I’m not sure what you’re clarifying here. I was explaining that if he only had given up physical custody there would have been contact for kinship. If he gave up all custody (as you note as parental custody) there probably wouldn’t have been. Except Canada may have grandparent rights that I’m not familiar with

 

[su5ie]

When do you think the children were killed - the evening before? or Thursday really early (6am)? or...?? Where do you think they were hidden? And when?

By handed off do you mean given to somebody else?

Sorry I wrote this before I seen the new interview with janie

 

[su5ie]

Su5ie, how about you watch the CBC interview! You'll see where the swing set is in relation to DM/MBM bedroom.

I did watch but I couldn't watch twice as young kids in earshot . I wasn't being lazy just asking for the view of a more observant poster

 

[LadyL]

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scotia/lilly-jack-sullivan-missing-janie-mackenzie-1.7293141

I wanted to edit my previous post but couldn’t figure it out, think I need my coffee first lol

Anyways, this is Daniel Martells mother speaking out

it's interesting that one grandmother says her heart tells her that Jack & Lilly are gone and another grandmother says her heart tells her they are still alive ...

I believe they have both been honest since the beginning

 

[justice2962]

https://www.cbc.ca/player/play/9.6837619

This is from the same interview with JM but it’s a little bit different.

 

[LadyL]

so would the dog bark if it was someone s/he knew in a car s/he recognized? ...

 

[TMich6811]

so would the dog bark if it was someone s/he knew in a car s/he recognized? ...

Million dollar question

But if she was certain she would here them talking about leaving and did not, I struggle with any idea that she wouldn’t hear a vehicle

 

[branmuffin]

And her band does have a detachment. It’s either Millbrook or Sipekne’katik, both have Rcmp satellite offices. Probably Millbrook

Those are still federal policing satellite detachments. They serve the reserve but may not have any indigenous officers in the organization. And even if they did they wouldn't be dictating policy. In Ontario band councils have their own police organizations on reserve property that is separate and apart from the OPP but still under the OPP umbrella.

<modsnip: Off topic>

 

[branmuffin]

I guess I’m not sure what you’re clarifying here. I was explaining that if he only had given up physical custody there would have been contact for kinship. If he gave up all custody (as you note as parental custody) there probably wouldn’t have been. Except Canada may have grandparent rights that I’m not familiar with

It's already been determined that the bio dad of J and L had given up all parental rights. I don't believe grandparents can petition the courts for access to the children which is why DM's mom hasn't seen J or L since he abdicated.

 

[Absoluterubbish]

Where are you getting information that the blanket was found in the trash? I've looked online on several NEWS sites and found nothing. The only place I've seen mention of it is on FB where random people are providing questionable information. Can you provide your source? Thanks.

I posted a link to an article which states this a couple of pages back

 

[branmuffin]

I posted a link to an article which states this a couple of pages back

It's behind a paywall for me.

 

[TMich6811]

It's already been determined that the bio dad of J and L had given up all parental rights. I don't believe grandparents can petition the courts for access to the children which is why DM's mom hasn't seen J or L since he abdicated.

I’m aware. The comment I had made was days ago in regard to something specific about kinship. It was brought back up with some kind of clarification so I was explaining why I had commented what I did.

 

[Absoluterubbish]

It's behind a paywall for me.

How odd. I can read it and I don’t have a subscription. Maybe it’s since been put behind one

 

[Lexiintoronto]

Just found a link that discusses the rest of the blanket in the bin

Police examining blanket, other items found during search for missing Nova Scotia children

Police declined to say whether they believe the children are still alive, or whether they believe foul play was involved

www.theglobeandmail.com

I’m not caught up yet, so I’m sorry if someone has already summarized the article. It’s not paywalled yet, but G&M articles tend to be so that could change. Some key points:

**the blanket was found off Lansdowne Road, less than a kilometre away from the family home.

** RCMP Corporal Carlie McCann told the media that only one blanket was located and retrieved early on in the search.

**DM previously told the Globe and mail that two parts of the blanket were found: one from Lansdowne Road and one piece from his week-old garbage. He said he told the police he believes the blanket was planted. DM did not respond to the Globe and Mail’s requests for further comment.

**The Globe and Mail asked the RCMP to confirm what DM told them, but they didn’t respond before the article was published.

** DM’s father, some of his uncles and other family live on Lansdowne Road.

 

[seasideForest]

Is the swing set located beside the bedrooms of DM and mbm or the kids could janie have presumed the kids were outside but she actually heard loud voices inside

No, it's much, much closer to Janie's bedroom in the RV. The bedroom of DM and MBM is at the far end of the trailer. I don't know where J and L's bedroom was, but even so my impression is that the swing set was closest to Janie's bedroom and RV than to the trailer.

MOO

 

[FromGermany1]

** DM’s father, some of his uncles and other family live on Lansdowne Road.