CANADA Canada - Jack, 4 & Lilly Sullivan, 6, Vulnerable, wandered from home 10am, Gairloch Rd, Landsdowne Station, Pictou County, NS, 2 May 2025 #6

[Lalalacasbah]

My theory is that the kids are alive and safe with someone related to them.

I would love this outcome. Here's to hoping!!

 

[su5ie]

My theory is that the kids are alive and safe with someone related to them.

I would love this to be the outcome

 

[MistyWaters]

My oldest son had a blanket that he was really attached to. He liked to drag it around, but it got so gross we cut a square of it for him to keep and threw the rest away. Maybe it was something like that? And she took the square with her when she left?

No one has said a peep if Lilly was at all attached to this blanket. If she was, why was it put in the trash bag? We don’t know where it was before it was put in the garbage? Anyone intending to frame the family could’ve pulled it out of the trash bag that was on the side of the road.

Another question, if MBM knew the blanket was thrown into the trash ready for pick up wouldn’t it be highly unusual to her that it was found in a tree along the road a short distance away? It appears it was meant to be found. Did anyone notice if the trash bag had been ripped open?
JMO

 

[steff13]

No one has said a peep if Lilly was at all attached to this blanket. If she was, why was it put in the trash bag? We don’t know where it was before it was put in the garbage? Anyone intending to frame the family could’ve pulled it out of the trash bag that was on the side of the road.

Another question, if MBM knew the blanket was thrown into the trash ready for pick up wouldn’t it seem unusual to her that it was found along side of road in a tree? It appears it was meant to be found. Did anyone notice if the trash bag had been ripped open?
JMO

As I said in my example, my son was attached to his blanket and we did put it in the trash because it was so gross. I was just theorizing about why there might be a small piece still existing with the rest of it in the trash.

 

[MistyWaters]

Could it be both?

If DM and MBM are "cleared" in the eyes of the public via news article, LE/press releases and if DM was involved, it may get him to rest on his laurels? He would relax, feel at ease... then that's when perps slip up, get overly confident.

On the other hand, so true too as you say - could be RCMP want to jog more people's memories to garner tips about that day and time. Or someone may have seen that same car/woman at a gas station or something, etc.

What was summarized in this article is statements made to support the request by the RCMP for certain subpoenas, that require approval from a Judge. Police cannot outright lie on legal documents presented to the Court.

Regardless, I doubt if it causes anybody to feel relaxed or at ease, or get overly confident especially because this tip certainly does not solve the children's disappearance. A huge intensive investigation while under a cloud of unfounded public speculation has to be the absolute worst nightmare for any parent or stepparent ever in their lifetime to have to deal with.

Doesn’t this article essentially ‘clear’ DM? He already told us about the results of his polygraph and nobody wanted to believe he knew he passed. Now we have it from the RCMP.
JMO

 

[MistyWaters]

As I said in my example, my son was attached to his blanket and we did put it in the trash because it was so gross. I was just theorizing about why there might be a small piece still existing with the rest of it in the trash.

Yes I read what you wrote but it would be total speculation to apply your son’s situation with his blanket to Lilly Sullivan. It’s unusual that nobody connected to the case has disclosed any further details other than three family members identified it, one we have learned was MBM.

 

[steff13]

Yes I read what you wrote but it would be total speculation to apply your son’s situation with his blanket to Lilly Sullivan.

Of course, which is why I said maybe that was the situation. I neither said nor implied that there was evidence that it was the same situation.

 

[MistyWaters]

My theory is that the kids are alive and safe with someone related to them.

It seems the least complicated outcome but after almost four months, what would be the purpose in hiding this arrangement considering MBM had sole custody. Many parents seek a relative to assist in raising their children. Only if that person wants to be designated a legal guardian does it go through the courts.

My only thought is if she was so fearful of a child welfare intervention - maybe a traumatic experience in her own childhood? - so she decided to not risk that and took matters into her own hands. If so, here in Canada I’m quite certain the courts would be very understanding considering her indigenous heritage and Canada’s attempt at reconciliation of past wrongdoings. I realize for those of you from the US and other countries, why this may be difficult to comprehend. Dynamics with different countries are not all the same, just the way it is….
JMO

 

[Jw192]

My theory is that the kids are alive and safe with someone related to them.

This is my bet too.

 

[TMich6811]

I would think anyone seeing two children walking along the side of the road would stop to make sure they’re ok? I know I would.
IMHO

Lilly and jacks age yes

 

[dotr]

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Aug 22, 2025 #news #novascotia #missing
Newly unsealed court documents shed fresh light on the search for two Nova Scotia children and how police subsequently combed through bank records, photo data and GPS information to track the movements of their mother and stepfather leading up to their disappearance. Lilly and Jack Sullivan disappeared from their home on May 2. The CBC's Angela MacIvor reports.

 

[Slebby]

Too many posts to quote…

Re garbage pickup - in the rural area in which I live, our trash is not picked up, we have to either haul it ourselves or hire a private company. In that remote, sparsely populated area where DM and MBM lived, I would be surprised if they had regular trash pickup.

Re the blanket - from the CBC article linked above, MBM told police Lilly didn’t want the blanket anymore, it had been used by DM to stop a draft on a door, at which time he tore a piece off the blanket. When the weather warmed up, MBM threw what remained of the blanket in the garbage. Is it likely both pieces of blanket were in the garbage at the same time? They may have been thrown away on different occasions. But, on the other hand, if there was no garbage pickup service, they may have accumulated garbage over a period of weeks before hauling it away themselves (especially in cold months when garbage freezes and doesn’t stink)

What’s puzzling to me is how a piece of blanket ended up a km away. That’s a long way through a lot of trees for the wind to blow from the garbage. It has always seemed a little too convenient for a piece of L’s blanket to be found, and also near one bootprint. Dogs did not pick up a scent of L or J near the found piece of blanket, which adds to my suspicion it was somehow placed there to direct attention from what really happened toward a scenario where the kids wandered into the woods. But by who? Her blanket, but no scent, his or her bootprint, but no scent of either child detected by dogs.

It’s like these 2 actual clues (blanket, bootprint) aren’t clues at all, they actually muddy the waters.

Just “thinking out loud”, I have no theories, all this is imho.

 

[MistyWaters]

Too many posts to quote…

Re garbage pickup - in the rural area in which I live, our trash is not picked up, we have to either haul it ourselves or hire a private company. In that remote, sparsely populated area where DM and MBM lived, I would be surprised if they had regular trash pickup.

Re the blanket - from the CBC article linked above, MBM told police Lilly didn’t want the blanket anymore, it had been used by DM to stop a draft on a door, at which time he tore a piece off the blanket. When the weather warmed up, MBM threw what remained of the blanket in the garbage. Is it likely both pieces of blanket were in the garbage at the same time? They may have been thrown away on different occasions. But, on the other hand, if there was no garbage pickup service, they may have accumulated garbage over a period of weeks before hauling it away themselves (especially in cold months when garbage freezes and doesn’t stink)

What’s puzzling to me is how a piece of blanket ended up a km away. That’s a long way through a lot of trees for the wind to blow from the garbage. It has always seemed a little too convenient for a piece of L’s blanket to be found, and also near one bootprint. Dogs did not pick up a scent of L or J near the found piece of blanket, which adds to my suspicion it was somehow placed there to direct attention from what really happened toward a scenario where the kids wandered into the woods. But by who? Her blanket, but no scent, his or her bootprint, but no scent of either child detected by dogs.

It’s like these 2 actual clues (blanket, bootprint) aren’t clues at all, they actually muddy the waters.

Just “thinking out loud”, I have no theories, all this is imho.

Reflecting back in time, it’s interesting the RCMP became aware of the identity of the blanket May 2, that first day. Yet what’s referred to the “Pipeline trail” wasn’t searched until the very end of the month, suggesting a very low priority placed by the RCMP on the find, a nothing-burger IMO.

From CBC far more details- (note - it was not a baby blanket, it was a doll blanket)

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scotia/extensive-rcmp-scrutiny-of-missing-children-s-mother-stepfather-suggests-no-criminal-involvement-1.7615551

Around 4 p.m., relatives of Brooks-Murray came out of the woods saying they had found a pink blanket down the road from the children's home. The blanket was seized by RCMP and photographs were taken.

According to the documents, a police dog walked for about one kilometre in the area and did not pick up a scent.

Another piece of blanket was seized from a garbage bag in a bin at the end of the family's driveway. Martell tells CBC it was the same blanket but had been ripped apart.

Brooks-Murray told police it was Lilly's LOL doll blanket that she had "sometimes dragged around with her" but had decided she no longer wanted. Martell had been using it to stop a draft around the door, according to her statement.

"Malehya took the blanket from the door because the weather was getting nicer about a week before and she threw it in the garbage," the documents said. "There was already a piece missing from it when she did that because Daniel ripped it off when he put it up."

 

[Megnut]

Too many posts to quote…

Re garbage pickup - in the rural area in which I live, our trash is not picked up, we have to either haul it ourselves or hire a private company. In that remote, sparsely populated area where DM and MBM lived, I would be surprised if they had regular trash pickup.

Re the blanket - from the CBC article linked above, MBM told police Lilly didn’t want the blanket anymore, it had been used by DM to stop a draft on a door, at which time he tore a piece off the blanket. When the weather warmed up, MBM threw what remained of the blanket in the garbage. Is it likely both pieces of blanket were in the garbage at the same time? They may have been thrown away on different occasions. But, on the other hand, if there was no garbage pickup service, they may have accumulated garbage over a period of weeks before hauling it away themselves (especially in cold months when garbage freezes and doesn’t stink)

What’s puzzling to me is how a piece of blanket ended up a km away. That’s a long way through a lot of trees for the wind to blow from the garbage. It has always seemed a little too convenient for a piece of L’s blanket to be found, and also near one bootprint. Dogs did not pick up a scent of L or J near the found piece of blanket, which adds to my suspicion it was somehow placed there to direct attention from what really happened toward a scenario where the kids wandered into the woods. But by who? Her blanket, but no scent, his or her bootprint, but no scent of either child detected by dogs.

It’s like these 2 actual clues (blanket, bootprint) aren’t clues at all, they actually muddy the waters.

Just “thinking out loud”, I have no theories, all this is imho.

There's a concept called presplaining (and postsplaining). Broad but ...

Let's say that someone helped a fragment of a blanket get a ways away.

And let's say LE found a corresponding piece in confiscated trash.

And asked the question.

And the story morphed into a new one about tears and drafts which half answers the trashed piece, but leaves the woodsy half making no sense.

It's a way of kicking the can forward...

That is a topic with LE IMO does not hide well for the well-being of the littlest, I fear.

Did someone think a torn blanket in the woods lends to a certain narrative?

It falls apart if the other half is found at home... Hard story to sell. Watching to see whose story it is.

I'm sticking a pin in it.

JMO

 

[Megnut]

Reflecting back in time, it’s interesting the RCMP became aware of the identity of the blanket May 2, that first day. Yet what’s referred to the “Pipeline trail” wasn’t searched until the very end of the month, suggesting a very low priority placed by the RCMP on the find.
JMO

From CBC far more details-

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scotia/extensive-rcmp-scrutiny-of-missing-children-s-mother-stepfather-suggests-no-criminal-involvement-1.7615551

Around 4 p.m., relatives of Brooks-Murray came out of the woods saying they had found a pink blanket down the road from the children's home. The blanket was seized by RCMP and photographs were taken.

According to the documents, a police dog walked for about one kilometre in the area and did not pick up a scent.

Another piece of blanket was seized from a garbage bag in a bin at the end of the family's driveway. Martell tells CBC it was the same blanket but had been ripped apart.

Brooks-Murray told police it was Lilly's LOL doll blanket that she had "sometimes dragged around with her" but had decided she no longer wanted. Martell had been using it to stop a draft around the door, according to her statement.

"Malehya took the blanket from the door because the weather was getting nicer about a week before and she threw it in the garbage," the documents said. "There was already a piece missing from it when she did that because Daniel ripped it off when he put it up."

That is just soooooooo much dialogue.

I'm not drawing a conclusion but I am noting it.

JMO

 

[TMich6811]

Question because I’m polygraph test dumb.

If xyz happened while I was under the influence of abc and in an altered reality and don’t fully remember it - would I likely pass the poly? Because “I” didn’t do the xyz?

Just curious really how substances impact a poly either when the action occurred or even during questioning?

 

[Slebby]

Court documents reveal items seized and found by police during search for Jack and Lilly Sullivan

13 records filed by the RCMP in their continuing major crime investigation offer new details into the investigation

www.theglobeandmail.com

The Globe and Mail has this same story up as well, paywalled. I would say it has a few details not found in the other stories (CBC, CTV) but nothing earthshaking or informative. I’ll reread and report back if I find something.

Re polygraphs - CTV chooses odd wording, that DM was truthful, and that MBM was truthful “when asked specific questions” but the list of questions were redacted. This certainly makes it sound like MBM came across as less truthful than DM. But CBC says “both passed”. The Globe and Mail offers more clarity, imo. It makes it sound like they were both truthful, and that they were both asked the same 4 questions, and those 4 same questions are redacted because of privileged info in the questions.
Net of it - I believe they both were found to be truthful, as far as polygraphs go.

IMHO

 

[MistyWaters]

That is just soooooooo much dialogue.

I'm not drawing a conclusion but I am noting it.

JMO

If the RCMP didn’t think it important enough to search the trail for an entire month even though searchers were close by at the time the blanket was discovered, IMO it’s not worth getting caught up on. If it was a plot to misdirect the search it didn’t work but then neither were the children found.

JMO

 

[TMich6811]

Court documents reveal items seized and found by police during search for Jack and Lilly Sullivan

13 records filed by the RCMP in their continuing major crime investigation offer new details into the investigation

www.theglobeandmail.com

The Globe and Mail has this same story up as well, paywalled. I would say it has a few details not found in the other stories (CBC, CTV) but nothing earthshaking or informative. I’ll reread and report back if I find something.

Re polygraphs - CTV chooses odd wording, that DM was truthful, and that MBM was truthful “when asked specific questions” but the list of questions were redacted. This certainly makes it sound like MBM came across as less truthful than DM. But CBC says “both passed”. The Globe and Mail offers more clarity, imo. It makes it sound like they were both truthful, and that they were both asked the same 4 questions, and those 4 same questions are redacted because of privileged info in the questions.
Net of it - I believe they both were found to be truthful, as far as polygraphs go.

IMHO

Is it possible they were asked more than 4 questions but they were truthful on those 4?

 

[MistyWaters]

Court documents reveal items seized and found by police during search for Jack and Lilly Sullivan

13 records filed by the RCMP in their continuing major crime investigation offer new details into the investigation

www.theglobeandmail.com

The Globe and Mail has this same story up as well, paywalled. I would say it has a few details not found in the other stories (CBC, CTV) but nothing earthshaking or informative. I’ll reread and report back if I find something.

Re polygraphs - CTV chooses odd wording, that DM was truthful, and that MBM was truthful “when asked specific questions” but the list of questions were redacted. This certainly makes it sound like MBM came across as less truthful than DM. But CBC says “both passed”. The Globe and Mail offers more clarity, imo. It makes it sound like they were both truthful, and that they were both asked the same 4 questions, and those 4 same questions are redacted because of privileged info in the questions.
Net of it - I believe they both were found to be truthful, as far as polygraphs go.

IMHO

Instead of various reporters interpretation of the contents of the document, why couldn’t they just publish the document?