CANADA Canada - Jack, 4 & Lilly Sullivan, 6, Vulnerable, wandered from home 10am, Gairloch Rd, Landsdowne Station, Pictou County, NS, 2 May 2025 #6

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Pictou County District RCMP is asking for the public's assistance in locating six-year-old Lily Sullivan and four-year-old Jack Sullivan. They were last seen this morning, May 2, on Gairloch Rd. in #LansdownStation, #Pictou County.

Lily Sullivan has shoulder-length light brown hair with bangs. She might be wearing a pink sweater, pink pants, and pink boots.

Jack Sullivan has short blondish hair. He’s wearing blue dinosaur boots. No other clothing description is available.

We ask that people spread the word through social media respectfully.

Anyone with information on the whereabouts of Lily Sullivan and Jack Sullivan is asked to contact Pictou County District RCMP at 902-485-4333. To remain anonymous, call Nova Scotia Crime Stoppers, toll-free, at 1-800-222-TIPS (8477), submit a secure web tip at www.crimestoppers.ns.ca, or use the P3 Tips app.

File #: 2025-580096


Update, 1:10 p.m. Search efforts continue for Lily and Jack Sullivan in #PictouCounty. A vulnerable missing person alert was issued for Pictou County this morning to help find the two who were last seen at about 10 a.m. today, May 2, at a home on Gairloch Rd. before they wandered.


May 2, 2025
Landsdowne Station, Nova Scotia

UPDATE: The search for missing children Lily and Jack Sullivan is ongoing in Pictou County.

Since just after 10 a.m. this morning, May 2, a search has been underway for two children who are believed to have wandered from a home on Gairloch Rd. in Lansdowne Station, Pictou County.

There is a multi-agency response currently on the ground in Pictou County. It includes resources from ground search and rescue teams from around the province who are collaborating to ensure resources and teams are available on an ongoing basis. Other resources and teams include the Civil Air Search and Rescue Association (CASARA), Department of Natural Resources Air Services, and several RCMP units, including RCMP Police Dog Services, RCMP Remotely Piloted Aircraft Systems (drones) operators, and others. Additionally, the RCMP issued a vulnerable missing person alert for Pictou County.

Police and others involved in the search appreciate the ongoing community support across the province related to this missing person investigation. We ask, however, that the public avoid the search area to allow trained searchers to do their work. The child's family has been kept updated on the search efforts.

Anyone with information on the whereabouts of Lily and Jack Sullivan is asked to contact Pictou County District RCMP at 902-485-4333. To remain anonymous, call Nova Scotia Crime Stoppers, toll-free, at 1-800-222-TIPS (8477), submit a secure web tip at www.crimestoppers.ns.ca, or use the P3 Tips app.

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Pictou County District RCMP is asking for the public's assistance in locating six-year-old Lily Sullivan and four-year-old Jack Sullivan. They were last seen this morning, May 2, on Gairloch Rd. in Lansdown Station, Pictou County.

Lily Sullivan has shoulder-length light brown hair with bangs. She might be wearing a pink sweater, pink pants, and pink boots.

Jack Sullivan has short blondish hair. He's wearing blue dinosaur boots. No other clothing description is available.

We ask that people spread the word through social media respectfully.

Anyone with information on the whereabouts of Lily Sullivan and Jack Sullivan is asked to contact Pictou County District RCMP at 902-485-4333. To remain anonymous, call Nova Scotia Crime Stoppers, toll-free, at 1-800-222-TIPS (8477), submit a secure web tip at www.crimestoppers.ns.ca, or use the P3 Tips app.

Contact information

Strategic Communications and Media Relations
Nova Scotia RCMP
[email protected]

File number: 2025-580096


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Hey Everyone,
This thread is very active. Please remember, we do not post or discuss rumors. Rumors become facts within seconds, and then the whole case discussion gets messed up.
If you have any questions, you can send SillyBilly, MadMcGoo, or me (Tricia) a "direct message," formally called a private message. You can locate your direct messages by clicking the icon next to your user name in the upper right-hand corner.
Thank you,

Tricia
 
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Please continue discussion here.
 
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I've pondered the scenarios in which the children are still alive, hidden away for unknown reasons in the "care" of some family member(s). I just find it so hard to believe at this point, given the massive amount of damage that this would cause to:
1) The children, being hidden & removed from society for 2+ months. This would certainly have a lifelong impact on a 6-year-old and likely a 4-year-old.
2) Those involved in the hiding, who would face legal, custodial, and lifelong social consequences for their extremely unnecessary and yet easily resolvable actions.
3) The community, who have searched, discussed, prayed & grieved for these children.

... and because these scenarios would almost certainly leave behind some digital evidence before, during, or after the handover. It seems impossible that this could happen for 2+ months without any text messages, cell phone pings, video footage, credit card purchases, or neighbour/passerby sightings.
 
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What reason would Mom and/or Stepdad have to hide the kids?

There's no evidence that the children were going to be imminently removed from their care.

There's no evidence they were being kept away from their Indigenous family and needed to be hidden on the reserve.

Mom took the baby and moved away from Daniel pretty quickly and we haven't heard of him being aggressive about it, so it doesn't mesh with her trying to hide the kids from him. And why only hide the 2 he isn't the biodad of?

The only thing I can think of is if their biodad wanted to go for custody? But we haven't heard a hint of that either.
 
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What reason would Mom and/or Stepdad have to hide the kids?

There's no evidence that the children were going to be imminently removed from their care.

There's no evidence they were being kept away from their Indigenous family and needed to be hidden on the reserve.

Mom took the baby and moved away from Daniel pretty quickly and we haven't heard of him being aggressive about it, so it doesn't mesh with her trying to hide the kids from him. And why only hide the 2 he isn't the biodad of?

The only thing I can think of is if their biodad wanted to go for custody? But we haven't heard a hint of that either.

According to the information that’s been communicated with the general public, there’s absolutely no reason for the children to even be missing. Yet here we are.

So what’s your best theory?
 
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I've pondered the scenarios in which the children are still alive, hidden away for unknown reasons in the "care" of some family member(s). I just find it so hard to believe at this point, given the massive amount of damage that this would cause to:
1) The children, being hidden & removed from society for 2+ months. This would certainly have a lifelong impact on a 6-year-old and likely a 4-year-old.
2) Those involved in the hiding, who would face legal, custodial, and lifelong social consequences for their extremely unnecessary and yet easily resolvable actions.
3) The community, who have searched, discussed, prayed & grieved for these children.

... and because these scenarios would almost certainly leave behind some digital evidence before, during, or after the handover. It seems impossible that this could happen for 2+ months without any text messages, cell phone pings, video footage, credit card purchases, or neighbour/passerby sightings.

Maybe we’re looking at it through a different lens. I’m not of aboriginal descent although I’ve shared a couple of connections with them throughout my years. That has prompted me to attempt to understand their new direction and the changes they’ve been striving to achieve. I’ve come to view it with a great deal of compassion as well.

Sovereignty, we hear the word a lot in regards to First Nations but is anyone thinking of the definition of the word? Sovereignty does not involve seeking approval from ‘us’ nor caring about our judgement. It means they are their own distinct entity, fully capable of managing from within. It’s that old-style colonialism, ‘us’ managing them, that they’re breaking away from because of the destruction and devastation it has caused to their culture.

Your points precisely describe the ramifications of the 60s scoop.

It’s not my intention to harp on behalf of First Nation initiatives, but as we have the connection in this case, it’s merely one of several theories of where are Lilly and Jack. The possibility is as good as any other, better actually because the children would currently be cared for and alive.
JMO
 
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I feel like the most superficially plausible explanation is that they did just slip out and wander away. That's the explanation that requires no motive and no conspiracy.
 
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I feel like the most superficially plausible explanation is that they did just slip out and wander away. That's the explanation that requires no motive and no conspiracy.
If the mother hadn't left the house 2 days later I too would believe this the most plausible explanation
 
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I feel like the most superficially plausible explanation is that they did just slip out and wander away. That's the explanation that requires no motive and no conspiracy.
Agree. On the surface.

But how far can a 4 year old really wander? It's been 2 months with no trace at all.

For awhile I considered coyotes but really, would coyotes grab both children? Wouldn't there also be some kind of indication if that were the case?

The property JMO looks like more than enough to keep two little people busy, without ever needing to leave. I don't think they wandered off on their own. MOO.
 
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Agree. On the surface.

But how far can a 4 year old really wander? It's been 2 months with no trace at all.

For awhile I considered coyotes but really, would coyotes grab both children? Wouldn't there also be some kind of indication if that were the case?

The property JMO looks like more than enough to keep two little people busy, without ever needing to leave. I don't think they wandered off on their own. MOO.
The no trace is important here. Not 1 but 2 small children and no trace of a diaper smell by a dog, footprints, clothes, toys, snacks, body or anything at all. Not impossible but dang close.

And the police aren’t using cadaver dogs in the woods. I go back to that
 
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Maybe we’re looking at it through a different lens. I’m not of aboriginal descent although I’ve shared a couple of connections with them throughout my years. That has prompted me to attempt to understand their new direction and the changes they’ve been striving to achieve. I’ve come to view it with a great deal of compassion as well.

Sovereignty, we hear the word a lot in regards to First Nations but is anyone thinking of the definition of the word? Sovereignty does not involve seeking approval from ‘us’ nor caring about our judgement. It means they are their own distinct entity, fully capable of managing from within. It’s that old-style colonialism, ‘us’ managing them, that they’re breaking away from because of the destruction and devastation it has caused to their culture.

Your points precisely describe the ramifications of the 60s scoop.

It’s not my intention to harp on behalf of First Nation initiatives, but as we have the connection in this case, it’s merely one of several theories of where are Lilly and Jack. The possibility is as good as any other, better actually because the children would currently be cared for and alive.
JMO
How would this work to protect indigenous sovereignty? Is there any reason to think that someone would actually do this? How would that serve indigenous interests, especially when the band in question already has autonomy and has the bureaucratic structures necessary to protect children at risk?
 
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How would this work to protect indigenous sovereignty? Is there any reason to think that someone would actually do this? How would that serve indigenous interests, especially when the band in question already has autonomy and has the bureaucratic structures necessary to protect children at risk?

I would presume the reason would be the same as any other situation where family members step up to support a relative who might be struggling, the reason likely would not involve activism in any way. Indigenous sovereignty has already been accomplished in Canada, protection has been obtained through our government. The one time MBM spoke to the media she seemed to me to be very weary and fragile but that’s just my opinion.
 
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I would presume the reason would be the same as any other situation where family members step up to support a relative who might be struggling, the reason likely would not involve activism in any way. Indigenous sovereignty has already been accomplished in Canada, protection has been obtained through our government. The one time MBM spoke to the media she seemed to me to be very weary and fragile but that’s just my opinion.
But why then report them missing?
 
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But why then report them missing?
Good question, no theory fits perfectly. For some reason she seemed as if she might’ve been mimicking DMs version of events. Perhaps she didn’t want him to know she has given the two of them up and then she left the next day anyway?
 
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I've pondered the scenarios in which the children are still alive, hidden away for unknown reasons in the "care" of some family member(s). I just find it so hard to believe at this point, given the massive amount of damage that this would cause to:
1) The children, being hidden & removed from society for 2+ months. This would certainly have a lifelong impact on a 6-year-old and likely a 4-year-old.
2) Those involved in the hiding, who would face legal, custodial, and lifelong social consequences for their extremely unnecessary and yet easily resolvable actions.
3) The community, who have searched, discussed, prayed & grieved for these children.

... and because these scenarios would almost certainly leave behind some digital evidence before, during, or after the handover. It seems impossible that this could happen for 2+ months without any text messages, cell phone pings, video footage, credit card purchases, or neighbour/passerby sightings.
I keep thinking of Shasta Groene and Jessica Lunsford and Elizabeth Smart
 
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Agree. On the surface.

But how far can a 4 year old really wander? It's been 2 months with no trace at all.

For awhile I considered coyotes but really, would coyotes grab both children? Wouldn't there also be some kind of indication if that were the case?

The property JMO looks like more than enough to keep two little people busy, without ever needing to leave. I don't think they wandered off on their own. MOO.
I mentioned this on the previous thread, but as far as we know the kids hadn't had anything to eat or drink that morning, which also makes me think they couldn't have got very far. But then, from what I've heard about those woods, I'm not sure they would necessarily have had to go very far in order to get lost and end up in some concealed spot that would be easy to miss during searches. Right now every theory seems simultaneously plausible and also far-fetched, I really don't know what to think at this point.
 
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I still think them wandering off is the least likely scenario.
It's a very baffling case this one.
 
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But how far can a 4 year old really wander? It's been 2 months with no trace at all.

I think a 4-year-old could wander very far in the woods, especially if the kids had a long head-start.
Then if they hid at night in dense brush to try to keep warm, they'd be impossible to see.
IMO I have concerns about the parents words and behaviors, however. Maybe that's unfair.
 
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I still think them wandering off is the least likely scenario.
It's a very baffling case this one.

I agree. I do not think these two children wandered off at all.

IMO
 
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