CANADA Canada - Jack, 4 & Lilly Sullivan, 6, Vulnerable, wandered from home 10am, Gairloch Rd, Landsdowne Station, Pictou County, NS, 2 May 2025 #6

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Are we allowed to sleuth Tucker? I heard he was seen digging a hole……
Sorry trying to add some interest to a very dull but strange case.
Where is DM??
 
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Just watched the janie video again but with subtitles. It's amazing what you miss . OK around the 120- 124 mark she is describing hearing the kids that morning. As she is walking towards the swing set she states the kids always play here and she says it a second time when she gets to the swings . Now she says always she didn't say she heard them swinging on the swings that morning imo , she assumes because they always did but that morning was a morning of firsts [sic]

Imo if the kids were alive or there that morning, what she heard could well be the kids going to greet someone

She also states if the kids were playing she would hear lilly saying come on Jackie. So if the kids were playing as she states she heard .Is that WHat she heard them say ?

So many bloody questions and so much missed opportunity to probe further. Maybe that was the pre agreement, no probing questions 🤔
 
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CBC print, quoted JM as saying she built the kids sandboxes and purchased the blue slide for them…. I never heard that in video.Cbc
 
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CBC print, quoted JM as saying she built the kids sandboxes and purchased the blue slide for them…. I never heard that in video.
I remember her saying in the video that she built the swing set, so maybe she also mentioned the other things in the interview but that bit didn't make it into the final cut?
 
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Sometimes I like to watch videos with subtitles as kids in earshot or I miss things in a fast moving interview. So I got to pick up a few bits that I didn't hear first time round .
 
  • #567
This doesn’t add up. Can someone in Canada help please

Speaking of my extensive professional knowledge of CPS in the US -

- The behaviors related to autism would not result in a call to CPS
- Parents are allowed (to a neglectful extent) to refuse evaluations and it takes extensive meetings to reach a point of involving CPS due to noncompliance
- if a school called and said a child was showing ASD behaviors CPS wouldn’t investigate unless there was something attached to it that was abuse or neglectful

So with my knowledge - were they refusing intervention for the kids prior? Were the behaviors significant behaviors that sometimes occur with ASD but need diagnosed and a rule out of abuse first (self injury sometimes or sexualized behaviors are examples, there are more)

Would actual ASD/developmental behaviors be reason alone to call CPS in Canada? This line of thought is confusing for me and could absolutely be different in Canada

I find myself wondering if they were actually scheduled for forensic interviews also
I'm wondering if the school tried to schedule meetings and the adults never showed up or refused.
The school's next step could have been a report to CPS.
MOO
 
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I think it might put a better prospective on what happened if we were privy to what went on with the cps . I know DM has said the referral was from the school and it was to do with the kids behaviour and with a view to getting them assessed.

Now that's all well and good but usually a parent - teacher meeting would be called to discuss this not a cps referral. Someone is leaving out the salacious bits
 
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I'm wondering if the school tried to schedule meetings and the adults never showed up or refused.
The school's next step could have been a report to CPS.
MOO
Omg ,great minds think alike I was typing my comment above as you must have posted 🤣
 
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I'm wondering if the school tried to schedule meetings and the adults never showed up or refused.
The school's next step could have been a report to CPS.
MOO
Absolutely it could have been and I explained - meeting or signatures or putting it off could result in cps - this is really late in the school year for that though, we typically wouldn’t see those reports this late.
 
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I’m going to assume RCMP watched the interview first and told CBC which parts they were allowed to release 🤷‍♀️
 
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I'm speculating, but I wonder if the school suspected autism and they did some assessments and the psychologist said that in their opinion the behavior was actually more likely due to neglect or abuse or trauma of some kind and that's how the CPS report came about?
 
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I'm speculating, but I wonder if the school suspected autism and they did some assessments and the psychologist said that in their opinion the behavior was actually more likely due to neglect or abuse or trauma of some kind and that's how the CPS report came about?
This is definitely possible

Imo Daniel isn’t going to be like - yeah cps was investigating abuse allegations
 
  • #575
I’m going to assume RCMP watched the interview first and told CBC which parts they were allowed to release 🤷‍♀️

I said this earlier regarding a different subject matter and somebody jumped all over it, something about journalistic ethics would never allow police to prescreen or something like that.
 
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Sometimes I like to watch videos with subtitles as kids in earshot or I miss things in a fast moving interview. So I got to pick up a few bits that I didn't hear first time round .

Did you notice the older man with the yellow shirt walking away at about 2:28? No idea who he is, JM didn’t mention anyone lived with her.
 
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Did you notice the older man with the yellow shirt walking away at about 2:28? No idea who he is, JM didn’t mention anyone lived with her.
I noticed him. I suspected he was either someone with the film crew, or a family member attempting to step out of the scene they were filming.
 
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Did you notice the older man with the yellow shirt walking away at about 2:28? No idea who he is, JM didn’t mention anyone lived with her.
Yes I thought it may have been a crew member
 
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One thing I learned from the unedited version of that interview:

That silent sliding back door is not silent. JMO

ETA they didn't do her any favors by editing that interview and cutting the extended tour she provided. By cutting all of that in favor of the "they searched my trailer THREE times" shorter version actually makes her seem irritated and abrupt. But what ended up edited out was where IMO the meat and potatoes live.
Ticya ,can you source and put in thread the unedited version. A few of us posters have queried if there was an original and if stuff has been deleted.
 
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