CANADA Canada - Jack, 4 & Lilly Sullivan, 6, Vulnerable, wandered from home 10am, Gairloch Rd, Landsdowne Station, Pictou County, NS, 2 May 2025 #6

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  • #661
Yes, this is a possibility, sad but true. Can't be ruled out.

It is a possibility but as Child Welfare was already involved, the mom would’ve only had to disclose she was unable to provide proper parenting to the two older children given their developmental challenges so she wished for them to be placed in a caring home. Nothing at all shameful in such a situation as it’s for the children’s best interests and giving up custody is completely confidential. If she had already planned to leave, nobody in her new location would ever know she was the mother of three children rather than one.

This would be a far better option than becoming stigmatized as a cold, uncaring silent mother with hurtful rumours swirling about but perhaps she wasn’t able to thoroughly think out her decisions.
JMO
 
  • #662
One of them know exactly what happened that day.
If mother did something to kids, and father was aware and helped cover, up her crime, he is also legally responsible.
If she does a bolt unexpectedly, he is left holding the bag and answering all the luring questions.
Her whereabouts are unknown immediately. He is confused and doesn't know what happened to her or her reason for bolting. The pack they made to cover crime is at risk of exposure, so he continues to keep the story line going. She has answered all the questions she can, and knows talking too much puts you at risk for slipping up.

So 2 months later, he hasn't been able to talk to her, to revalidate the story they concocted, to validate her silence and loyalty to the pack, but he realizes in that pack and cover up, he's just as guilty, and the heat is on from Joe Public, and the attention is on him. She's scott free from finger pointing while hiding.

Will they come out together and state they renewed their relationship, and are fighting to keep baby, and work through this loss together?

One of these partners could have murdered alone, but I honestly think hiding of the bodies had to be done by both, she wouldn't be able to physically do it unless over a cliff into tidal bore.

If father did it, why would mother keep quiet? She would do so if "Stockholm syndrome", or she was part of crime.
If she was incapacitated in a facility, would her accusations/words be inadmissible if she was declared incompetent? Are LE waiting for a clearance by an MD to pursue further questioning ?

Bolting could clearly be part of fight or flight, possible mental breakdown, fear of something greater? But staying silent this long is looking very bad for her. Even if those kids are genuinely missing, her silence is very strangely unusual
 
  • #663
It is a possibility but as Child Welfare was already involved, the mom would’ve only had to disclose she was unable to provide proper parenting to the two older children given their developmental challenges so she wished for them to be placed in a caring home. Nothing at all shameful in such a situation as it’s for the children’s best interests and giving up custody is completely confidential. If she had already planned to leave, nobody in her new location would ever know she was the mother of three children rather than one.

This would be a far better option than becoming stigmatized as a cold, uncaring silent mother with hurtful rumours swirling about but perhaps she wasn’t able to thoroughly think out her decisions.
JMO
Or it was all a spur of the moment moment, panic.
Which brings me back to DM saying an earlier video, she was in a (paraphrasing here) abusive environment prior to him. Did he mean another relationship or as a child? Did this play a part in her bolting?
 
  • #664
Or it was all a spur of the moment moment, panic.
Which brings me back to DM saying an earlier video, she was in a (paraphrasing here) abusive environment prior to him. Did he mean another relationship or as a child? Did this play a part in her bolting?
For all we know, it could easily be with the biological father of Jack and Lily. That would explain why the mother split with him, why the father was out of he picture, and why the father's family has few connections.

(This, in turn, might possibly impact the credibility of the statements of their grandmother, the father's mother.)
 
  • #665
Or it was all a spur of the moment moment, panic.
Which brings me back to DM saying an earlier video, she was in a (paraphrasing here) abusive environment prior to him. Did he mean another relationship or as a child? Did this play a part in her bolting?
I must have missed it, but I don't recall DM saying Jack and Lilly's mom was in an abusive environment prior to him. Can you please share the link to the video you're referring to?

ETA: I tried to search for it myself but literally every top link now at google is rando youtubers & gossip pages on FB. All with "breaking news" and "bombshell reveals" of course. :rolleyes:
 
  • #666
There is only one person in this whole debacle that has made me sit up and take notice and be watchful for a future named poi

It is not mum ,dad , grandmothers or brothers.

It is someone who has intentionally inserted himself into the investigation

His quote of ' I wasn't hurt ,it was rage " that officers brushed him off . Has connotations of a felt personal slight .

It's is a statement , not with concern for the welfare of the missing children but can be psychologically viewed as the offence taken was a personal one and affected his ego.

As a child psychologist once stated when a parent starts explaining their feelings when the child is the one needing help particularly negative feelings. She replies ' this is not about you "

my opinion on this is purely my speculation . I'm only judging the words spoken by him on msm .

Sometimes when we look back at convicts of these type of crimes that happen to want the notoriety. It is these words and behaviours that are usually highlighted.
 
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  • #667
I must have missed it, but I don't recall DM saying Jack and Lilly's mom was in an abusive environment prior to him. Can you please share the link to the video you're referring to?

ETA: I tried to search for it myself but literally every top link now at google is rando youtubers & gossip pages on FB. All with "breaking news" and "bombshell reveals" of course. :rolleyes:
will try but like everything so far, stuff is edited quickly after release. I remember it well, he didn't say she was in an abusive relationship, but worded it like this MBM came from an environment of something not very nice prior to me". He said this in or around the same video of him asking public to leave her alone with the comments.
 
  • #668
For all we know, it could easily be with the biological father of Jack and Lily. That would explain why the mother split with him, why the father was out of he picture, and why the father's family has few connections.

(This, in turn, might possibly impact the credibility of the statements of their grandmother, the father's mother.)
Yes, that could be accurate. But someone stated she dated someone prior to DM. It may have been DM who actually said it. So that is someone after CS.
 
  • #669
will try but like everything so far, stuff is edited quickly after release. I remember it well, he didn't say she was in an abusive relationship, but worded it like this MBM came from an environment of something not very nice prior to me". He said this in or around the same video of him asking public to leave her alone with the comments.
I'll back you on this, because I remember it too. This constant editing of info is getting really annoying and I'm starting to feel gaslit by this whole case, lol.
 
  • #670
LOL... I know, it's frustrating. Can't find anything other than the video where he pleads for public to leave MBM alone for her mental health, but.... that is on SM. hahahahaha
 
  • #671
This allegation of DM responsible is something I can only comprehend as an accusation of indirect responsibility. As the msm articles state he was the one looking , calling etc . He was also in the bedroom with Malehya and Meadow and according to both of their statements they allegedly turned to each other to say " do you / can you / i dont hear the kids and DM leaps into action .

Janie's timeline of hearing the children about 9am and then subsequently hearing DM calling/ shouting for the children and seeing Malehya narrows the window of the disappearance to about 20/ 30 mins . Now this is where the conundrum occurs for me and I suppose with how much weight LE afford to the statement. Do you believe a mother who may be wanting to deflect blame from her son ? Would we do the same , would we believe our adult children whole heartily?

I have no reason to disbelieve janie ( or Daniel.) But the question I ask is what has she got to gain and what has she got to lose ? And the answer to both is her son . So I assume LE would ask the same when evaluating the timeline .

I'm speculating that LE are regarding the independently verified sighting on May the 1st as the only beyond reasonable doubt witness (cctv) that the kids were alive and well then . LE are reviewing the footage they appealed for so they can piece together what happened after and possibly narrow the timeline with proof that can't be picked apart in a court of law or a coroners court should it transpire that the kids are found dead and it is too late to determine cause of death like the Casey Anthony one

Just my opinion and speculating.
excellent post if I may say so! Echoes many of my thoughts on certain subjects but also made me think of other things differently than I had been! Thank you.
 
  • #672
There is only one person in this whole debacle that has made me sit up and take notice and be watchful for a future named poi

It is not mum ,dad , grandmothers or brothers.

It is someone who has intentionally inserted himself into the investigation

His quote of ' I wasn't hurt ,it was rage " that officers brushed him off . Has connotations of a felt personal slight .

It's is a statement , not with concern for the welfare of the missing children but can be psychologically viewed as the offence taken was a personal one and affected his ego.

As a child psychologist once stated when a parent starts explaining their feelings when the child is the one needing help particularly negative feelings. She replies ' this is not about you "

my opinion on this is purely my speculation . I'm only judging the words spoken by him on msm .

Sometimes when we look back at convicts of these type of crimes that happen to want the notoriety. It is these words and behaviors that are usually highlighted.
Bbm.
Could you link that ?
I'm curious.
Thanks !
Imo.
 
  • #673
will try but like everything so far, stuff is edited quickly after release. I remember it well, he didn't say she was in an abusive relationship, but worded it like this MBM came from an environment of something not very nice prior to me". He said this in or around the same video of him asking public to leave her alone with the comments.
also @Ontario Mom

That rings a bell with me too, but I have no idea where I read / or heard it, except to say that I am very rarely off MSM in this case. But not on Globe&Mail because I don't subscribe to it. On CBC seems most likely for me.
JMO
 
  • #674
Maybe a car accident ... but I'd never considered that scenario yet.
Why hide them, if that was the case.
An accident wouldn't mean the loss of the the baby(to DCFS), or anything else ; and would be easy to prove.
Omo.
 
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  • #675
Frustrating with the editing, because when you go to discuss something in it, and then they edit, it's no longer acceptable here. Time to enter Darrin Geddes (a family member from MBM side)..... fingers crossed he is still in the latest edited version of JM CBC interview....will check....yes at 1:27. He gives his impression of the work being done on case, I'm not discussing that here, but if anyone can find the non edited version he discusses DM.
Also in that same unedited video is a statement that JM makes re her neighbour. Does anyone remember it? It was just before the time frame when she is talking about staying out back and not liking the camera,
All possibly removed due to accusatory statements and potential litigation, and nothing to prove their statements. I posted a while back about whether he was safe to discuss or too risky.
Not necessarily asking you specifically, @AddyFinch , but regarding what you were talking about re "frustrated with the editing" of the video interviews, does anyone know how that kind of editing might usually come about? On whose say-so? Would you expect it to be because LE asked or ordered it be done to help or not hinder their investigation? Or might it usually be something the interviewee herself asked to be done perhaps? Or just the station that did the interview, and if so, for what reason, I wonder? Maybe it's just as simple as the station realizing after the fact that something wasn't verifiable or even that they just wanted to cut some parts to make it shorter. Just wondering... seems if we knew who wanted certain parts cut out, it could be a possible clue to help us understand things better.
 
  • #676
Bbm.
Could you link that ?
I'm curious.
Thanks !
Imo.

It is in this article and here is a screenshot of the paragraph
Screenshot_20250724_194107_Chrome.webp
 
  • #677
LOL... I know, it's frustrating. Can't find anything other than the video where he pleads for public to leave MBM alone for her mental health, but.... that is on SM. hahahahaha
I don't follow this case on social media so I can say without a doubt, that specific comment was in the video on one of the Canadian MSM sites.
 
  • #678
Not necessarily asking you specifically, @AddyFinch , but regarding what you were talking about re "frustrated with the editing" of the video interviews, does anyone know how that kind of editing might usually come about? On whose say-so? Would you expect it to be because LE asked or ordered it be done to help or not hinder their investigation? Or might it usually be something the interviewee herself asked to be done perhaps? Or just the station that did the interview, and if so, for what reason, I wonder? Maybe it's just as simple as the station realizing after the fact that something wasn't verifiable or even that they just wanted to cut some parts to make it shorter. Just wondering... seems if we knew who wanted certain parts cut out, it could be a possible clue to help us understand things better.
Even the Wikipedia page is under discussion for deletion .

I'm in ireland and if I dig deep enough I can find original interviews
 
  • #679
Also many original interviews are linked at start of threads
 
  • #680
Thanks, @su5ie !
A cousin of the maternal grandmother.
I'll admit I'm a bit curious why the RCMP would brush off his information ??
Odd.
In some cases I've caved into, "the family knows nothing", but in Jack and Lilly's case I can't seem to shake it, that someone knows something .......
Not sure why.
Still hoping for answers.
Omo.
 
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