CANADA Canada - Jack, 4 & Lilly Sullivan, 6, Vulnerable, wandered from home 10am, Gairloch Rd, Landsdowne Station, Pictou County, NS, 2 May 2025 #6

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“Daniel was also upset that Malehya left. “I’ve been the only one there for them,” he sobbed in an interview. “She can’t control them. Only I can. They act out whenever she’s there. She always gets me to calm them down, or get them to stop fighting, or feed them, or get them up, and put them to bed every night. She was asking me to do everything. It just breaks my heart not to ever see everybody.”
I have no idea what happened to the children and am not on any "side" at this point. But I do look askance at his statement that he did everything for the kids.

I've known fathers who think they do "so much" when it's really only occasionally (or even once!). But since they were called upon to help, they project that the mom doesn't do anything.

I recall one father - a great guy, btw - who claimed his babies never cried at night and slept through until morning from birth. The mom quickly pointed out that he slept through all the nights when she was up caring for the babies! In the dad's mind, the mom slept when she was actually doing the opposite!

Just saying.

Maybe he did do "everything," I don't know. I'm just skeptical.

jmopinion
 
  • #842
Imo things were escalating. Financially, Relationship wise, Temper Tantrums (by adults).

Some snippets from the article;

Financially;
Other means of cash flow had also been cut off. In recent months, child support payments from Jack and Lilly’s biological father had stopped after he lost his job. Malehya’s monthly Canada Child Benefit cheque, or baby bonus – which under federal guidelines would be about $1,900 per month – was halted because Daniel hadn’t filed his taxes which were due by April 30.
Temper Tantrums; Imo the black eyes are a pattern.
Last December, Jack came to school with a black eye, according to a photo of him posted by his elementary school. The photo of the class trip on Dec. 13, 2024 – five months before he and his sister disappeared – shows him sitting next to other students in the forest with a green and purple bruise below his left eye.
Another photo shows a possible black eye and bruising on Jack’s face in a photo taken in September 2024, an injury that Daniel defended on social media, saying it was caused by Lilly.
Daniel did not respond to questions asking how Jack received the black eye in December, but in private Facebook messages that were shared with The Globe he acknowledged Jack had many black eyes.
“One time, Lilly punched him in the face,” he wrote.
He also said Lilly had a black eye when the children went missing – from an incident with a Tonka truck that occurred on
May 1, the day before the children disappeared. “She pushed down on the truck and it swung up and hit in the face!!”
Relationship wise;
The struggles didn’t end there. Malehya described Daniel as controlling and said she had wanted out, writing in a message to Belynda on June 15 that “I never wanted to stay there.”
 
  • #843
Imo things were escalating. Financially, Relationship wise, Temper Tantrums (by adults).

Some snippets from the article;

Financially;

Temper Tantrums; Imo the black eyes are a pattern.

Relationship wise;

It would be extremely enlightening if the G&M revealed who are the sources of what is presented as factual information otherwise it’s similar to the DailyMail whose source is often Social Media.

It acknowledged Malehya never agreed to be interviewed therefore this can’t not be mistaken for investigative news reporting as G&M has no ability to confirm most of what’s written and it could be no better than second or third hand biased gossip. However it seems to represent a general summary of what is ‘out there’, but important to note nothing has been confirmed by police therefore I’m keeping an open mind.
JMO
 
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I have no idea what happened to the children and am not on any "side" at this point. But I do look askance at his statement that he did everything for the kids.

I've known fathers who think they do "so much" when it's really only occasionally (or even once!). But since they were called upon to help, they project that the mom doesn't do anything.

I recall one father - a great guy, btw - who claimed his babies never cried at night and slept through until morning from birth. The mom quickly pointed out that he slept through all the nights when she was up caring for the babies! In the dad's mind, the mom slept when she was actually doing the opposite!

Just saying.

Maybe he did do "everything," I don't know. I'm just skeptical.

jmopinion
Could also see it as a neglectful mother who didn’t want to bother taking care of the kids and let the step dad do it who took advantage of it by abusing them. Have definitely seen that as well.
 
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Teachers raised concerns & contacted CPS. Could it be an escalation point in already ongoing abuse in the family? This happens too often, when there is already a neglect of some degree present, and then some (best intention) interference happens.
As a survivor of terrible child abuse from my own parents, I know this may happen even when there's no obvious logic in the abuser's actions. In my case there was authorities involved, and while it seemed that help was on the way, and all is going to be better after that... No. Actually, that was the hardest time for 10 y.o. me when the teachers and bystanders tried to help. It was "just" starving and verbal abuse before that. And severe beatings, black eyes and hospitalizations after. It felt like retaliation: "Oh you did not keep your mouth shut and now your teacher's calling? Get this".
Sorry it's long, but this new info about black eyes and CPS involvement gave me this thought.
 
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I have no idea what happened to the children and am not on any "side" at this point. But I do look askance at his statement that he did everything for the kids.

I've known fathers who think they do "so much" when it's really only occasionally (or even once!). But since they were called upon to help, they project that the mom doesn't do anything.

I recall one father - a great guy, btw - who claimed his babies never cried at night and slept through until morning from birth. The mom quickly pointed out that he slept through all the nights when she was up caring for the babies! In the dad's mind, the mom slept when she was actually doing the opposite!

Just saying.

Maybe he did do "everything," I don't know. I'm just skeptical.

jmopinion
When someone usually a man ( and im totally being gender biased so deepest apologies in advance , I know abuse happens to men also ) exclaims they do everything in a relationship my radar usually goes up and that radar usually tells me there is some form of abuse present . And when that exclamation is aimed at a woman it usually means the man is mentally and emotionally abusive toward the woman and the woman is so caught up pleasing the man she doesn't have time for her children as she is busy serving his demands

And I'm certainly not MBM's biggest fan

If someone states I do most things in a relationship that is a different statement .imo
 
  • #847
And they go missing after Lilly suffers a black eye?! I noticed that Daniel and his mother said nothing about that in their interviews. No, ‘we were icing her poor face and having her relax’.
As a special education teacher in a rural area of the US, I have seen parents keep students home from school until bruises heal. Especially if they have a current CPS investigation.
We often call for welfare checks when certain students are absent for multiple days. The police then go out and put eyes on the students to be sure that they are well.
 
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That line in the article actually kind of ticked me off. He never actually said he outran a helicopter. What he said was, he was out searching ahead of them, as in, before they got there. It came up on this thread at the time and it was perfectly clear that's what he was attempting to convey, yet that article (as previously pointed out) tried quite hard to paint him as someone making grandiose claims.

Say what you want about his lifestyle, etc., but it would be nice if the media would at least be honest about what he actually said, and not just repeat some random, condescending accusation.
That ticked me off as well. It certainly was perfectly clear what he meant. I would think it would have been clear to the journalist who authored that piece as well. IMO

The journalist also wrote "claimed to friends that he was getting into investing and turning his life around after a divorce." Isn't that called a rumour? There's several instances in that piece where it's rumour, which leads to conjectures. Very disappointing.

My previous post I mentioned that the 3 adults in that home look guilty as hell. Occam's razor and on the surface, they do look guilty to some, because of all the rumours.

But actually, in the simplest terms of Occam's razor is the following: Maybe those kids did not want to stay home for another day. Maybe Lilly kept poking her head in the bedroom to see when they were asleep, and when she saw they were she grabbed her book bag with school stuff and they snuck out the door to grab the bus. But maybe the bus already went by and they began walking and were offered a ride by someone they knew. Or didn't know.
 
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Is a five speed vehicle an atv just curious 🤔
 
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Some of them are yes. You can get different types.
Thank you and i Just looked it up so if I find a pic of the one that Daniel was pictured with on one of the first articles can someone tell me the make and model please
 
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This is the model and make and yes it is a five speed . Again just curious as was mentioned in G&M article
 
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This is the model and make and yes it is a five speed . Again just curious as was mentioned in G&M article

I’d think most rural folk can distinguish the difference in sound between a vehicle and an ATV. Have you ever heard the sound of an ATV when it’s running? IMO it would never be mistaken for a vehicle regardless of how many speeds of the transmission. The sound of a five-speed car ‘booting it’ is very distinct.
JMO
 
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Could also see it as a neglectful mother who didn’t want to bother taking care of the kids and let the step dad do it who took advantage of it by abusing them. Have definitely seen that as well.
Yes, there are so many possibilities...

IMO, another possibility not that far off from this one, is that she (Lilly & Jack's mother) was in a DV situation with coercive control by her recent partner/their "stepdad", the father of their baby/toddler, and she was deeply and fearfully controlled by him.

To the point where she couldn't even assist her older kids dealing with him (IMO, his wrath & control & abuse), and could only try to protect herself and her baby for the time being until she/they could get out.

He could have threatened her in so many ways to stay silent and not raise any concerns with her older kids school, protective services, her family and friends... while living on property his family owned, and her not having any financial means of her own.

And maybe she couldn't wait to get away from him, like she was just trying to escape with her life and her youngest, and she did, within a few short days of Lilly & Jack going missing and the search & investigation into their disappearance.

So he may have been "doing everything for them", her older kids from another father, in his own mind, as he's claimed, but who in the heck knows what that entailed and what the backstory is.

JMO
 
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I’d think most rural folk can distinguish the difference in sound between a vehicle and an ATV. Have you ever heard the sound of an ATV when it’s running? IMO it would never be mistaken for a vehicle regardless of how many speeds of the transmission. The sound of a five-speed car ‘booting it’ is very distinct.
JMO
I haven't heard one as I live in the city . So before I spoke about it I looked it up . Thanks for your knowledge
 
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I have no idea what happened to the children and am not on any "side" at this point. But I do look askance at his statement that he did everything for the kids.

I've known fathers who think they do "so much" when it's really only occasionally (or even once!). But since they were called upon to help, they project that the mom doesn't do anything.

I recall one father - a great guy, btw - who claimed his babies never cried at night and slept through until morning from birth. The mom quickly pointed out that he slept through all the nights when she was up caring for the babies! In the dad's mind, the mom slept when she was actually doing the opposite!

Just saying.

Maybe he did do "everything," I don't know. I'm just skeptical.

jmopinion
I have the same doubts. He's the 'hero' in every story, it seems!
 
  • #858
I have the same doubts. He's the 'hero' in every story, it seems!

The troubling issue is, let’s say Malehya was indeed overwhelmed from parenting her children as a single mother, which included a 4 and 6 year old who were possibly autistic. We know by the bus driver’s description the two oldest tended to exhibit behaviour to command attention, not unusual for children that age but what at the same time can be exhausting to parents. It wouldn’t be out of the realm of possibilities if Malehya was tired and worn out.

So maybe it’s highly possible DM did indeed assist her in small ways. But the relationship wasn’t working out for whatever reason so she was planning to move out from the home with DM.

Then what? Parenting three children age six and under, what are her options? I’m not judging nor insinuating but the fact is she left with only the youngest.
JMO
 
  • #859
I wonder what this comment means? What would prevent an Officer or spokesperson making a statement?

“I find that rather odd that they wouldn’t put someone before the camera to at least help bring some attention to it from a public perspective,” he tells CTV News. “But then again, we don’t know what else they have going on in terms of their ability to get somebody before a camera.”
This is talking around the issues.

It doesn't mean "their ability", as in "how can the RCMP manage to walk/push/shove a warm body in front of a camera, like they're Hannibal Lector on a dolly", it's a discreet way to talk around saying "maybe the police don't want to say anything right now, because staying silent is a tactic to unnerve and/or smoke someone out; or maybe they are having an internecine fight, about either tactics or what they would say at said briefing, with one representative thinking they should say one thing and another representative battling for something different; or maybe they simply have zero definitive to say on the case right now and don't want to look bad."
 
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