CANADA Canada - Jack, 4 & Lilly Sullivan, 6, Vulnerable, wandered from home 10am, Gairloch Rd, Landsdowne Station, Pictou County, NS, 2 May 2025 #6

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BBM.

Mr. Brooks says he also has questions about what was happening inside the children’s home, and that his daughter had been trying to leave Mr. Martell for months before the kids disappeared.

(Henry Brooks is Jack and Lilly’s maternal grandfather).

Globe and Mail source may be paywalled (I'm a subscriber).
Grandmother of Jack and Lilly Sullivan calls for public inquiry into children’s disappearance

How many times have we heard that before? But it's usually in cases where the woman gets murdered. But taking the kids instead can be a bigger punishment (Travis Decker case for example) anyway that's just me speculating. I don't think that scenario makes sense for this case.
Hoping every day that the police are closer to making an arrest(s)
 
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BBM.

Mr. Brooks says he also has questions about what was happening inside the children’s home, and that his daughter had been trying to leave Mr. Martell for months before the kids disappeared.

(Henry Brooks is Jack and Lilly’s maternal grandfather).

Globe and Mail source may be paywalled (I'm a subscriber).
Grandmother of Jack and Lilly Sullivan calls for public inquiry into children’s disappearance
Is it possible to give a short synopsis of any new important info in the article in your own words so its not plagiarism please
 
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Do you think she will get the inquiry ?
 
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Do you think she will get the inquiry ?

No, not at this point in time. Inquiries aren’t granted by private request. I’m certain NS child protective services has been fully cooperative with the RCMP in their investigation and that’s really all that matters right now. She might be niffed that she isn’t granted the right to access the files but they aren’t public documents and for good reason.

Yesterday the thought crossed my might that she was the G&Ms sole source to their article and now I wonder that even more.

It’s a great thing for the missing children to have a spokesperson but I’m not so sure she’s the best person for various reasons.
JMO
 
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Is it possible to give a short synopsis of any new important info in the article in your own words so its not plagiarism please
Not much new-new. A lot of criticism of the way the situation was handled, from the RCMP, Child Welfare Services and the Minister responsible.

She wants to know what prompted the school to call child protection services in the first place, if it was only about Jack or if there were concerns about Lilly too.

She says authorities need to "lift the veil of secrecy around how the provincial government responded to concerns about the home life of Jack and Lilly."
 
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Not much new-new. A lot of criticism of the way the situation was handled, from the RCMP, Child Welfare Services and the Minister responsible.

She wants to know what prompted the school to call child protection services in the first place, if it was only about Jack or if there were concerns about Lilly too.

She says authorities need to "lift the veil of secrecy around how the provincial government responded to concerns about the home life of Jack and Lilly."
I have read the full article, I did find it in ways not allowed 😅
 
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No, not at this point in time. Inquiries aren’t granted by private request. I’m certain NS child protective services has been fully cooperative with the RCMP in their investigation and that’s really all that matters right now. She might be niffed that she isn’t granted the right to access the files but they aren’t public documents and for good reason.

Yesterday the thought crossed my might that she was the G&Ms sole source to their article and now I wonder that even more.

It’s a great thing for the missing children to have a spokesperson but I’m not so sure she’s the best person for various reasons.
JMO
I agree I think belynda is the source and thought so from the moment I read the original article . She has in fairness given the children a voice when not many are imo .

I think in her grief she getting through the days by taking action then letting the sadness consume her. I suppose it's the fight ,flight ,freeze response and she is fighting
 
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This is the model and make and yes it is a five speed . Again just curious as was mentioned in G&M article
Now THIS is very interesting.
 
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I agree I think belynda is the source and thought so from the moment I read the original article . She has in fairness given the children a voice when not many are imo .

I think in her grief she getting through the days by taking action then letting the sadness consume her. I suppose it's the fight ,flight ,freeze response and she is fighting

There’s always the risk for low profile people to become star-struck by attention from the media. In the early days it was DM who thrilled at every opportunity to offer his two cents worth during an interview but now he’s gone silent. For whatever reason Malehya consistently resisted temptation. Now Belynda is running with it.

The best spokespersons are neutral. I feel Belynda has taken on a role less of a good spokesperson and more of an ‘influencer’ who is attempting to push her own foregone conclusion into the public eye. In my humble opinion that’s not only very unjust of her but can be dangerous in terms of possibly encouraging vigilante action.
JMO
 
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I wanted to comment, I used the word ‘acknowledge’ not ‘validate’. The role of police is never to validate anything published in the media. It’s to investigate and solve crimes, something the media isn’t tasked with doing.

Did you notice that much of the G&M article dwelled on the private lives of DM and MBM, very little involved evidence relating to the disappearance of the children. The only connection to solving the crime is purely speculation that one situation might’ve led to another.

Anyway when I wrote ‘acknowledged’ I can imagine the RCMP acknowledging it in a general way, saying what they often say “we deal only with facts and if you don’t hear it from us, then it may not be entirely accurate”.
JMO

The biological paternal grandmother said something very poignant, imo. That if they don’t find the answers outside the home, then the answers are inside the home.

The G & M brought us inside the home to see what the children were facing, and it sounds dire. I think Daniel saying that Lilly suffered a black eye the day before she disappeared is possibly evidence related to the disappearance, amongst other details in the article.
 
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The biological paternal grandmother said something very poignant, imo. That if they don’t find the answers outside the home, then the answers are inside the home.

The G & M brought us inside the home to see what the children were facing, and it sounds dire. I think Daniel saying that Lilly suffered a black eye the day before she disappeared is possibly evidence related to the disappearance, amongst other details in the article.
I think the G&M article was loaded with biased opinions.

I'm just not convinced it's the whole story, or even an accurate partial story.
 
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The biological paternal grandmother said something very poignant, imo. That if they don’t find the answers outside the home, then the answers are inside the home.

The G & M brought us inside the home to see what the children were facing, and it sounds dire. I think Daniel saying that Lilly suffered a black eye the day before she disappeared is possibly evidence related to the disappearance, amongst other details in the article.

IIRC DM also went on to say Lilly pushed down on a toy truck and it flew up on her face and gave her a black eye. It’s pure innuendo to presume that a child who got a bruise due to an innocent accident is possible evidence related to her disappearance unless somebody present witnessed physical abuse and if so, it’s a police matter IMO, not breaking news of the day.
JMO
 
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The biological paternal grandmother said something very poignant, imo. That if they don’t find the answers outside the home, then the answers are inside the home.

The G & M brought us inside the home to see what the children were facing, and it sounds dire. I think Daniel saying that Lilly suffered a black eye the day before she disappeared is possibly evidence related to the disappearance, amongst other details in the article.
I wonder if Lilly having a visible black eye is part of why the RCMP didn't release the footage from when the children were last seen in public
 
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Not paylocked at the moment. Of course that could change by the time anyone reads this post. Here’s my 10% fwiw.


The RCMP have acknowledged investigations like this take a long time and can be difficult for families seeking answers, and said they have committed significant resources to solving the case. The Mounties have consistently said they have not uncovered any evidence the children were abducted, and stand by a decision not to issue an Amber Alert when the children first went missing.

Staff Sergeant Rob McCamon from the RCMP’s Major Crime and Behavioural Sciences unit said the investigation remains “very active and intensive,” and any information that could help police is being ”meticulously scrutinized, prioritized and actioned to ensure nothing is missed.”

“We are continuing to engage every resource available to help locate Lilly and Jack and determine the circumstances of their disappearance,” he said.
 
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I've been following along with what has been posted here recently on Lilly and Jack's disappearance, and in MSM, which granted isn't much.... it's a complex investigation, LE has said, and apparently is taking a lot of time and resources to come to a conclusion/resolution.

Including reading the recent article in the Globe & Mail, which was tagged "IN DEPTH" at the top of the headline, and for me, does weave together more of a picture, regardless of source(s), IMO, and states:

"A picture emerges of missing children’s lives, but not their fate

Months later, there are still few answers about what happened to Jack and Lilly Sullivan of Nova Scotia, but trauma and stigma have left their families and community farther apart"

Trauma. And. Stigma. Uggghhhh.... where is LE going with their investigation and why is it taking so long, and why trauma and stigma?

One scenario that might be possible that could fit into these circumstances, is, what if there was an accident that happened between when they were last seen in public the afternoon before, and overnight/into the morning before the 911 call was made?

Which would presumably be being "covered up" by whomever may have been involved or the cause of the accident?

If there was a type of "accident", which presumes they were both harmed/killed unintentionally, what on earth type of accident could happen to 2 different children, who are 2 different ages, and occupy 2 different physical spaces, at the same time and without intention?

It's a somewhat minor consideration, but niggles at me, how an actual accident, and not a neglectful or abusive or manslaughter type of set of circumstances, might have befallen a 4 and 6 year old -- together at the same time, or one by one the same accident or different type of accident befell them, and it's been covered up?

All I can think of, JMM (just my musings) of course, is if there was a vehicle impact or poisoning/overdose accident that affected both of them, something like that...

Because they were young and small, they could have been put in harm's way by an adult who wasn't paying attention and didn't see them or what they were doing.

If their parents were accurate in saying they heard them up earlier in the morning playing and then things went silent and their grandmother was correct in saying she heard them playing outside that morning, so they were still alive that morning:

An accident could have happened such as a vehicle impact (e.g., a driver didn't see them coming around a corner or out of the trees or onto the road) or poisoning/overdose could still have occurred (e.g., someone leaving drugs out that looked like candy).

However, the fact that they both had boots on (or those items are missing with them) and Lilly had her backpack (or it is missing with her) makes me wonder if they were on an adventure/going for a walk, and as I've posited before, could have been bored and wanting to go to school and not that sick or that bad of coughs....

And the accident that could have befallen them was due to rough terrain they were moving through, although no evidence has been found of them anywhere nearby, AFAIK.

The piece of blanket down the road is suspicious IMO, as is their mother's supposedly upset reaction when she saw where LE was searching, as if the location meant something to her in terms of it being a bad sign.

Just waiting patiently for some answers, very much wishing Lilly and Jack will be found soon, and their loved ones and community will have closure and be able to heal from the trauma.

MOO
 
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Do you think she will get the inquiry ?
I think it's unlikely, unless public inquiries in Canada work very differently to how they do in the UK. Here, a public inquiry is usually reserved for when the government or another public body makes a serious error that results in significant/widespread harm, like the Grenfell Tower inquiry. For a case like this, an inquest would probably be more likely, but that definitely wouldn't happen until the police investigation and any resulting criminal trials were over
 
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IIRC DM also went on to say Lilly pushed down on a toy truck and it flew up on her face and gave her a black eye. It’s pure innuendo to presume that a child who got a bruise due to an innocent accident is possible evidence related to her disappearance unless somebody present witnessed physical abuse and if so, it’s a police matter IMO, not breaking news of the day.
JMO

Daniel has said a few things that are contradictory, so I’ve personally lost faith in what he says. (Examples are in the article linked above). And I wanted to believe him.

When the alert went out, why weren’t we told that the missing 6 year-old had a black eye? Interview after interview, nothing about a very visible injury.
 
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Daniel has said a few things that are contradictory, so I’ve personally lost faith in what he says. (Examples are in the article linked above). And I wanted to believe him.

When the alert went out, why weren’t we told that the missing 6 year-old had a black eye? Interview after interview, nothing about a very visible injury.

I don’t know, just guessing perhaps when the alert was sent RCMP made a judgement call to avoid people jumping to conclusions that the children were being physically abused and likely murdered, therefore nobody would bother to watch out for any possible sightings and instead they’d be flooded with tips about what the black eye might indicate?

No charges laid yet so I’m giving Daniel the benefit of doubt. Something I think about is how isolated Malehya must’ve been. No friends or relatives keeping in touch with her? All the shades of grey cast towards DMs while Malehya is still very much an enigma.
JMO
 
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I think it's unlikely, unless public inquiries in Canada work very differently to how they do in the UK. Here, a public inquiry is usually reserved for when the government or another public body makes a serious error that results in significant/widespread harm, like the Grenfell Tower inquiry. For a case like this, an inquest would probably be more likely, but that definitely wouldn't happen until the police investigation and any resulting criminal trials were over

Yes, here too public inquiries result in recommendations for changes to government policies or legislation in the public interest. They’re not for the purpose of disclosure of information during the course of a criminal investigation.

The way the G&M article is written, this woman is looking to lay blame either with the RCMP or Child Welfare. But without knowing the circumstances of Lilly and Jack’s disappearance, how can anyone be blamed? Perhaps the children indeed wandered into the forest and just haven’t been found yet.
JMO
 
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