CANADA Canada - Jack, 4 & Lilly Sullivan, 6, Vulnerable, wandered from home 10am, Gairloch Rd, Landsdowne Station, Pictou County, NS, 2 May 2025 #7

[su5ie]

Wow. How interesting.

Yes I thought it was a great thread and fair dues to whoever created it .

It shows one that it's common and two that enough interest was shown and queried for someone to go to the effort of making a references list

I always felt that if the kids as alleged wandered off that morning that they didn't wander too far from the main yard and they would be found eventually within an area searched and most likely less than 1km from the trailer.

If as alleged they did wander I reckon when they heard or saw the commotion they got really scared and hid <modsnip>

 

[Twistinginthewind]

To be clear, from the documents released, DM said he “thought” he heard a scream, but when he stopped, any sound was drowned out by a helicopter. To me this did not sound like a certainty a scream was heard. IMHO

Thanks for this clarification documented in MSM, DM said "he thought he heard a scream".

I've been trying to be careful when posting about what DM "said" and stating that, or saying "if" what he said... etc.

Apologies if I may have misconstrued it somewhat in my posts as him "saying he heard screaming", versus "he thought he heard a scream".

It still seems kind of perplexing why if he did think he heard a scream while LE was searching, he didn't bring it up to them right away (if he didn't, so much of what we know is what he said at his own behest in interviews it seems, IMO, and LE has not confirmed) and instead mentioned it after the fact not during media interviews, if that is the origin of his statement.

Although he seemed very certain that Lilly and Jack would not be found on their property, so if the scream he thought he may have heard was from off their property, maybe it makes more sense in that context.

MOO, and still grasping at proverbial straws here.

Sincerely hoping LE's new searches with cadaver dogs is going to help find some more evidence pointing towards where in the world they went.

 

[MistyWaters]

Twistinginthewind, I think it’s possible you’re remembering correctly the comment about MBM wanting to leave DM but attributing it to the wrong grandparent. In the same Globe and Mail Aug 8 article, it was BG who said MBM didn’t want to stay there, BG said if she had known, she would have helped, and MBM said yes, her mother said the same thing. Paraphrasing.
IMHO

I’m just curious how BG would know MBM wanted to leave DM considering BG said MBM cut off contact with her when she moved in with DM? So then if BG knew MBM didn’t want to stay there, then she must’ve known and so why didn’t she help ???

If BG said these things IMO she can’t have it both ways. Either she maintained a relationship with her grandchildren and their mother over the prior two years, or she did not.

 

[Slebby]

I’m just curious how BG would know MBM wanted to leave DM considering BG said MBM cut off contact with her when she moved in with DM? So then if BG knew MBM didn’t want to stay there, then she must’ve known and so why didn’t she help ???

If BG said these things IMO she can’t have it both ways. Either she maintained a relationship with her grandchildren and their mother over the prior two years, or she did not.

This is in that Aug 8th Globe and Mail article. MBM said this to BG in a communication on June 15th, well after the children had gone missing. BG expressed her sorrow, that had she known she would have helped. MBM responded, yes, that’s what my mom said too. Paraphrasing.

 

[MistyWaters]

This is in that Aug 8th Globe and Mail article. MBM said this to BG in a communication on June 15th, well after the children had gone missing. BG expressed her sorrow, that had she known she would have helped. MBM responded, yes, that’s what my mom said too. Paraphrasing.

Okay thank you for clarifying that. Hopefully some day MBM will speak for herself rather than others speaking in her behalf.
JMO

 

[LadyL]

^^ This in my opinion. I can imagine, the priorities were about the same before Lilly and Jack disappeared.

it literally takes three finger touches and three seconds to delete an app - I don't think something taking that little amount of time can be construed into her not having proper priorities

so let's say, she decides to watch a tv show or play a game or read a book or a million other things we all do during our days, whether we're going through something traumatic or not - we still stop and do other things and don't get judged for it

so why is she being judged for something that literally (I tested it) takes three seconds?

 

[PromotedPawn]

it literally takes three finger touches and three seconds to delete an app - I don't think something taking that little amount of time can be construed into her not having proper priorities

so let's say, she decides to watch a tv show or play a game or read a book or a million other things we all do during our days, whether we're going through something traumatic or not - we still stop and do other things and don't get judged for it

so why is she being judged for something that literally (I tested it) takes three seconds?

You’re 100% correct. Regardless of her perceived guilt or innocence, deleting an app is a non factor to me. I wouldn’t want law enforcement reading my messages unless I felt it would help the case. I delete apps and messages all the time and I’m not a criminal.

ETA: jmo

 

[303gmf]

Okay thank you for clarifying that. Hopefully some day MBM will speak for herself rather than others speaking in her behalf.
JMO

Yes! I hope so, waiting since mid May for any sign she speaks out

 

[kathleen harless]

Yes! I hope so, waiting since mid May for any sign she speaks out

If MBM was so scared of D why would she stay in bed and let him take care of the kids that morning? She sure was trusting that mourning when Lilly came into the bedroom and let D handle things.

 

[wvmoonangel]

Watch for an update this week. According to this article from 10/2 there is going to be an update this week.

820 tips received in the 5 months since Sullivan children were reported missing

It’s been exactly five months since two Nova Scotia children went missing.

www.ctvnews.ca

 

[MistyWaters]

If MBM was so scared of D why would she stay in bed and let him take care of the kids that morning? She sure was trusting that mourning when Lilly came into the bedroom and let D handle things.

Nothing that was released in her RCMP interviews indicated MBM was scared, indeed she considered DM to be a supportive step-father.

By the tone of BGs interviews she clearly is biased against DM so it’s possible MBM was just telling her what she wants to hear. Did MBM expect BG to become her public spokesperson, I doubt it considering their relationship had been severed for two years.

Regardless, many of the ‘facts’ attributed to this case are from secondhand “he said/she said” sources that can’t be proven. Some of it might border on media ‘hype’ and whether facts of the case or not, it’s impossible to know at this point.
JMO

 

[tlcya]

If the Globe and Mail is to be believed, MBM was in a controlling relationship that made her fearful and she had been trying to leave for some time. ie. DM is not the great guy he portrays himself to be in interviews (he did everything for the kids, did the lion's share of caring for them, etc. so forth)

If it is not to be believed then a mother left the location her children went missing from within days of their disappearance, took her tender age baby with her leaving that baby's father alone and completely cut him off and hasn't been heard from since except to notify the world via socials that she was single. ie. MBM is not the greatest person. (JMO)

Personally, I believe the G&M article. I think MBM left because she had an opportunity to with all that family backup and I think she knew her older children weren't going to be located and were not coming home. Only she can tell why she knows this and knew it so early on. But I don't think she ever will. All just MOO

 

[303gmf]

Nothing that was released in her RCMP interviews indicated MBM was scared, indeed she considered DM to be a supportive step-father.

By the tone of BGs interviews she clearly is biased against DM so it’s possible MBM was just telling her what she wants to hear. Did MBM expect BG to become her public spokesperson, I doubt it considering their relationship had been severed for two years.

Regardless, many of the ‘facts’ attributed to this case are from secondhand “he said/she said” sources that can’t be proven. Some of it might border on media ‘hype’ and whether facts of the case or not, it’s impossible to know at this point.
JMO

Precisely why most mothers of missing children since last spring would speak out by now, visibly search, have a spokesperson? Hire an atty?
Anything?
Anyone?
Most frustrating to tiptoe around the oddness of this case!

 

[Kittypoo]

I agree about unused apps as you state.

But this was an app she relied on to communicate in the remote area where the trailer was that she lived at.
Until she left and no longer needed it and/or wanted it.

At this point ie my precious babies are missing why on earth would you stop any form of communication. What if one of them were trying to get in touch? Ok I know they were 4 and 6 but I’m sure more than able to send a message on someone else’s phone. I don’t know what the app in question is but..
Very very odd in my opinion

 

[MistyWaters]

Precisely why most mothers of missing children since last spring would speak out by now, visibly search, have a spokesperson? Hire an atty?
Anything?
Anyone?
Most frustrating to tiptoe around the oddness of this case!

What would each of us would do if we had the misfortune of being in her situation? It appears she’s been fully cooperative with the RCMP and their investigation, that’s what’s most important. Regardless of public curiosity, maybe she chooses not to further all the speculation about her missing children by remaining silent.

Part of me admires her dignity.
JMO

 

[Ontario Mom]

At this point ie my precious babies are missing why on earth would you stop any form of communication. What if one of them were trying to get in touch? Ok I know they were 4 and 6 but I’m sure more than able to send a message on someone else’s phone. I don’t know what the app in question is but..
Very very odd in my opinion

If the only contact number they had for their mom was the one she used with the app, then yes I would also consider that horribly alarming that she deleted the app and cut off any chance of them trying to reach her.

However, I haven't seen it mentioned anywhere that either of the kids knew her number or knew how to contact her that way.

 

[Chimera]

As far as the mother remaining silent :
There's different views to look at this, imo.
I'd be searching through that woods regardless of bug bites or being torn up from thorns !

Police would get tired of me begging for updates and asking for a press conf., to plead if anyone has taken them; or help searching.
At the very least I'd be out plastering posters of their faces with special attention to their most recent photos--- just in case anyone saw them, anywhere at all.

I would not leave the house the kids had lived in unless dragged away, in case my babies somehow came back or someone dropped them off (unlikely, I know !).
Just 'No' , to remaining silent.
You couldn't keep me quiet.
If nothing else to keep their case in the news up front and center if possible.

No amount of SM speculation or even questions from the public or family would even matter.

Find. My. Babies.
Nothing else is important.
Omo.

 

[Chimera]

Precisely why most mothers of missing children since last spring would speak out by now, visibly search, have a spokesperson? Hire an atty?
Anything?
Anyone?
Most frustrating to tiptoe around the oddness of this case!

Agreed 100 %.

Part of me thinks that if they'd been found alive or god forbid--deceased; that the mother MBM might cut off her boyfriend, DM, after all he's not the bio dad.
But, during this time that Jack and Lilly are still missing ?
Not likely in my opinion.
If anything to keep tabs on any updates, and see if he'd heard anything.

Even if not wanting to live in the same house, to cut him off completely seems a strange choice.
Omo.

 

[Megnut]

As far as the mother remaining silent :
There's different views to look at this, imo.
I'd be searching through that woods regardless of bug bites or being torn up from thorns !

Police would get tired of me begging for updates and asking for a press conf., to plead if anyone has taken them; or help searching.
At the very least I'd be out plastering posters of their faces with special attention to their most recent photos--- just in case anyone saw them, anywhere at all.

I would not leave the house the kids had lived in unless dragged away, in case my babies somehow came back or someone dropped them off (unlikely, I know !).
Just 'No' , to remaining silent.
You couldn't keep me quiet.
If nothing else to keep their case in the news up front and center if possible.

No amount of SM speculation or even questions from the public or family would even matter.

Find. My. Babies.
Nothing else is important.
Omo.

Unless you were provided evidence that they were deceased.

Then her actions make full sense. Sadly.

JMO

 

[Chimera]

Unless you were provided evidence that they were deceased.

Then her actions make full sense. Sadly.

JMO

Bingo. ^^^

My opinion only : Someone(s) knows something.
I have pondered this from the time the mother left and cut off DM.
Wouldn't one want to stay in contact in case the other person heard something from LE or even locals ?

My DH and I walked the neighborhood and put up at least 16 flyers with photos of our lost rescue kitty after he'd sneaked out and absconded for four days.
Pics and our contact info.
Thank goodness he wandered back on his own --hungry and with some burrs in his tail after two more days.
He wasn't chipped then but he is now.
Imo.