CANADA Canada - Jack, 4 & Lilly Sullivan, 6, Vulnerable, wandered from home 10am, Gairloch Rd, Landsdowne Station, Pictou County, NS, 2 May 2025 #7

  • #701
I thought they said their scent was not found beyond the driveway??

Yes that’s what was stated. But SAR dogs are definitely not 100% infallible and there could be reasons they were unable to track further. For example scent can be lost if there is a disturbance from too many people in the same area.

And if they did track only to the end of the driveway, the next question would be why the RCMP didn’t know of any evidence pointing to an abduction?
 
  • #702
Have we seen non redacted polygraph reports or only what has been reported by msm? I might have missed the actual report and not just the impression of it

No, I don't recall ever seeing the actual report posted. But it's also possible I've missed it.

"According to the court records cited by CTV, Brooks-Murray and Martell were first given polygraphs on May 12. The couple were then given subsequent polygraph tests three more times during the investigation. In each session, Brooks-Murray's and Martell's results indicated they were telling the truth, according to the report. Additionally, the children's biological father, Cody Sullivan, was given a polygraph on June 12 and his answers were "truthful," the documents said."

Kind of wild but there were 8 different polygraphs done just with MBM and DM. And according to court records, both of them were telling the truth every time. To me, that says a lot.

This from the same article explains why so many tests were done:

"An unidentified investigator wrote in the court documents, cited by CTV News: "At this point in the investigation, Jack and Lilly's disappearance is not believed to be criminal in nature. I do not have reasonable grounds to believe a criminal offence has occurred. Because Jack and Lilly are still missing, polygraph examinations were conducted with the intention of ruling out that possibility."
 
  • #703
I'm not saying this is the case, we really don't know much about their relationship.
But in my experience, some victims will purposely stay out of the way of their abuser to prevent doing 'the wrong thing'. All MOO

Exactly.
 
  • #704
dbm
 
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  • #705
No we haven’t, notice my word ‘IF’. But we’d have to question the competence of police if we have reason to believe they were not interested in her action of leaving so soon. Seems basic policing 101 to me.

I don’t believe we have evidence of any reason to believe they were not interested in her action of leaving so soon
 
  • #706
This case is baffling. Whenever I think about it, I find myself going round in circles and finding no theory to be miles ahead of the others. I know we don't know everything that's been said or reported to LE, but I try to imagine that information and how it fits into different scenarios. I, like many others, will watch for the update with interest.
 
  • #707
"... The siblings' maternal grandmother Cyndy Murray spoke with The Canadian Press over the phone, stating that the family is hoping and praying for the recovery of the children. She also stated that police had advised the family "against speaking to the media".
Rbm.
If this is accurate, it may explain why MBM left early on and is silent ?

Also in every missing child case I've followed this is the first one , where LE told the family they could not hold a press conference and plead for the children's safe return; or give reporters information to get Lilly and Jack's pics and information out there.
It's difficult to believe LE would tell the family this.
Again if this is accurate, maybe C.M. misunderstood LE ?

Some families would ignore it in desperation and at least ask if they could hold a presser, or do anything.
Let people know what the kids are like, what their fav. tv shows are, afraid of bugs ? Fav. foods.
What IF they're alive somewhere ?
Omo.

When Jayme Closs went missing her family held a press conf. and even described her favorite coffee drink ?


 
  • #708
This case is baffling. Whenever I think about it, I find myself going round in circles and finding no theory to be miles ahead of the others. I know we don't know everything that's been said or reported to LE, but I try to imagine that information and how it fits into different scenarios. I, like many others, will watch for the update with interest.
Agreed.

Very odd, one would think if they wandered off some trace of them would've been found by now ?
Also per my above post, apparently LW told the family to be silent and to not apeak to the media.
Random people or YouTubers/V-Loggers, etc., maybe.
But to not talk to the msm press ?.
Do they (LE) know something ?
Imo.
 
  • #709
"... The siblings' maternal grandmother Cyndy Murray spoke with The Canadian Press over the phone, stating that the family is hoping and praying for the recovery of the children. She also stated that police had advised the family "against speaking to the media".
Rbm.
If this is accurate, it may explain why MBM left early on and is silent ?

Also in every missing child case I've followed this is the first one , where LE told the family they could not hold a press conference and plead for the children's safe return; or give reporters information to get Lilly and Jack's pics and information out there.
It's difficult to believe LE would tell the family this.
Again if this is accurate, maybe C.M. misunderstood LE ?

Some families would ignore it in desperation and at least ask if they could hold a presser, or do anything.
Let people know what the kids are like, what their fav. tv shows are, afraid of bugs ? Fav. foods.
What IF they're alive somewhere ?
Omo.

When Jayme Closs went missing her family held a press conf. and even described her favorite coffee drink ?



Which is precisely why I think they know the sad outcome. There was hope that JC was still alive. Perhaps that door is closed here.

Think ChrisWatts, and the video of his truck backed in...

If LE believed these children were still alive, IMO they'd be leading the campaign to het their faces and stories out there, and holding frequent press conferences, likely with please from family for their safe return.

LE doesn't appear to need help.

And that tells me what kind of ending were likely and sadly going to see.

JMO
 

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