CANADA Canada - Jack, 4 & Lilly Sullivan, 6, Vulnerable, wandered from home 10am, Gairloch Rd, Landsdowne Station, Pictou County, NS, 2 May 2025 #7

[MistyWaters]

IMO as a parent, it is very very strange she has been silent since the day they disappeared. I definitely wouldn't be giving any thought whatsoever to my dignity but rather every ounce of my being to locating my child and in this case TWO of her children which IMO includes making public appeals.

Public appeals are unnecessary if the children wandered into the forest and eventually perished. Maybe she’s come to terms with accepting that conclusion?

 

[OneLove]

But you’re assuming there was a criminal element involved in their disappearance. The RCMP recently stated they’ve found nothing to indicate the children are dead therefore they’ve not found evidence to indicate anyone was involved in their deaths.

So it would be a natural progression to involve cadaver dogs to assist in determining if indeed the children perished in the forest, no foul play involved.

What value would it serve to give up your last shred of ‘dignity’ in advance of the RCMP’s plans to search?
JMO

There are other viable ways the kids could have disappeared & even still be alive, maybe even hearing about searches. It has happened before. A random drive by took them home then gave them to someone else, a family member squirreled them away, a well meaning but mentally challenged adult took them home "to play", something tribal, a school-adjacemt worker "took matters into their own hamds", a sexual deviant has them, and other possibilities.

There was a boy taken from his school bus stop in Missouri, held for several years by a sexual deviant who was a pizza manager. The kid was sex trafficked across state lines for his pleasure & personal gain. Kid was chained up at home while captor worked long work shifts. He watched his parents plead tirelessly for the duration on TV & knew they never gave up on finding him alive. It gave him strength to live until he escaped. And my own story: I had a 6th grade student who had been kidnapped from a convenience store by a trucker, traded truck to truck for a year, kept docile by needle drugs & nakedness, & escaped by rolling out of the road-work slowed truck on the interstate and running nude across traffic to the other side of the median. The girl's mother NEVER quit pleading for her return. She was an amazing young woman to have survived her ordeal. Knowing she had strong family gave her both hope and strength.

 

[LadyL]

Disappearance of Lilly and Jack Sullivan - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

"... The siblings' maternal grandmother Cyndy Murray spoke with The Canadian Press over the phone, stating that the family is hoping and praying for the recovery of the children. She also stated that police had advised the family "against speaking to the media".
Rbm.
If this is accurate, it may explain why MBM left early on and is silent ?

Also in every missing child case I've followed this is the first one , where LE told the family they could not hold a press conference and plead for the children's safe return; or give reporters information to get Lilly and Jack's pics and information out there.
It's difficult to believe LE would tell the family this.
Again if this is accurate, maybe C.M. misunderstood LE ?

Some families would ignore it in desperation and at least ask if they could hold a presser, or do anything.
Let people know what the kids are like, what their fav. tv shows are, afraid of bugs ? Fav. foods.
What IF they're alive somewhere ?
Omo.

When Jayme Closs went missing her family held a press conf. and even described her favorite coffee drink ?

From missing to found alive: A timeline of the Jayme Closs case

The search for Jayme Closs ended Thursday when she was found alive in northwest Wisconsin.

www.kare11.com

Advised against it is not the same as being told they couldn't JMO.

 

[Chimera]

The young woman already has experienced deep trauma by her children going missing, maybe she doesn’t want to put herself on public display where surely more judgement will follow, it’s her call.

I agree with this sentiment however she has been putting herself on display in social media pictures - you are right, it is her call but you wouldn't find many other missing children's mothers leaving the scene of the disappearance the day after, never to return and never to again address her missing children publicly. Its a very unusual set of circumstances which I think gives rise to people questioning.

Bbm.
I don't follow SM very much but it sounds like MBM would be ok with public exposure, then ?

It seems like she cooperated with LE/RCMP when they contacted her, but they haven't said she initiated contact towards them, i.e., called them for updates or to schedule a presser.

Here's a question : Is it possible in the beginning, if LE asked either mom or boyfriend to speak up publicly to raise awareness ?
Even though the kids wouldn't necessarily try to call home if they saw a presser on tv ... it would help get more attention to the case and that's important.
Again if LE have never done that, b/c they know what they have, but not enough evidence, then this case takes a different turn altogether.
Imo.

As far as the second bolded ; Yes, like I'd stated earlier -- this is the first missing kid's case where the bio parent left the house the kids lived in and cut contact with the other adult who lived with her.
It would be odd if people did not question the choices made.
Omo.

 

[Chimera]

Advised against it is not the same as being told they couldn't JMO.

Agreed.
Thanks for clarifying that.
I was thinking the same, but didn't say it.
So nothing preventing anyone from speaking out, then ?
Imo.

 

[LadyL]

Agreed.
Thanks for clarifying that.
I was thinking the same, but didn't say it.
So nothing preventing anyone from speaking out, then ?
Imo.

as in every case, there is nothing illegal about speaking to the media
there is also nothing illegal or wrong about not speaking to the media, especially when advised against by police

 

[Bigditch]

There are other viable ways the kids could have disappeared & even still be alive, maybe even hearing about searches. It has happened before. A random drive by took them home then gave them to someone else, a family member squirreled them away, a well meaning but mentally challenged adult took them home "to play", something tribal, a school-adjacemt worker "took matters into their own hamds", a sexual deviant has them, and other possibilities.

There was a boy taken from his school bus stop in Missouri, held for several years by a sexual deviant who was a pizza manager. The kid was sex trafficked across state lines for his pleasure & personal gain. Kid was chained up at home while captor worked long work shifts. He watched his parents plead tirelessly for the duration on TV & knew they never gave up on finding him alive. It gave him strength to live until he escaped. And my own story: I had a 6th grade student who had been kidnapped from a convenience store by a trucker, traded truck to truck for a year, kept docile by needle drugs & nakedness, & escaped by rolling out of the road-work slowed truck on the interstate and running nude across traffic to the other side of the median. The girl's mother NEVER quit pleading for her return. She was an amazing young woman to have survived her ordeal. Knowing she had strong family gave her both hope and strength.

All the above -- heart wrenching.

 

[Chimera]

as in every case, there is nothing illegal about speaking to the media
there is also nothing illegal or wrong about not speaking to the media, especially when advised against by police

Yes, no one said it was wrong or illegal ... but many question not speaking out for the kids.
It's odd advice from LE to not make a plea for their return.
But again LE probably know much more than we do, looking at their actions.
So we wait for a break in this case.
Omo.

 

[sapphire blue]

Thank you for saying that. To me it feels as if observing people who are grieving put on public display is similar to morbid entertainment. As soon as it’s over, then comes the rush of judgement, was she sincere, did she or sound look guilty…it’s easy to forget these are real people, not actors in a movie.
JMO

Exactly. There is no one correct way for a mother (or father) to behave. As an example consider the treatment Lindy Chamberlain received when her baby daughter Azaria disappeared from a campsite. No matter what she did she was judged and found wanting, the vitriol and hatred remains to this day from some who are still convinced she or one of the other children murdered Azaria. People seem to forget these are real people who are navigating a deeply distressing traumatic experience that will affect them for life.