CANADA Canada - Jack, 4 & Lilly Sullivan, 6, Vulnerable, wandered from home 10am, Gairloch Rd, Landsdowne Station, Pictou County, NS, 2 May 2025 #7

  • #821
One of the cadaver dogs handler is a sergeant and other is an inspector, so they may have been within bounds to ask DM questions. Especially if both officers needed as much information as possible.

The officer asked what many of us are wondering about: the lack of details about the children from Thursday night until Friday morning.

As @Megnut pointed out above, Lilly had a cough and a new black eye, but no one bathed her, put fresh clothes on her and checked on her throughout the night?
 
  • #822
One of the cadaver dogs handler is a sergeant and other is an inspector, so they may have been within bounds to ask DM questions. Especially if both officers needed as much information as possible.

The officer asked what many of us are wondering about: the lack of details about the children from Thursday night until Friday morning.

As @Megnut pointed out above, Lilly had a cough and a new black eye, but no one bathed her, put fresh clothes on her and checked on her throughout the night?

Sick enough to stay home but no one is dosing cough syrup?

I'm still waiting on a credible narrative.

JMO
 
  • #823
One of the cadaver dogs handler is a sergeant and other is an inspector, so they may have been within bounds to ask DM questions. Especially if both officers needed as much information as possible.

The officer asked what many of us are wondering about: the lack of details about the children from Thursday night until Friday morning.

As @Megnut pointed out above, Lilly had a cough and a new black eye, but no one bathed her, put fresh clothes on her and checked on her throughout the night?

Also... the handler wasn't necessarily interview/interrogating the step-dad. May have been regular questions one might ask, especially one who is trying to get a handle on what happened, what's typical, what atypical, etc.

I don't know what happened in this case but I'm well aware of another where the man accused off his wife's murder couldn't fill in the critical hours with believable events, ftom 2 pm to 8 pm basically had dinner and went to bed -- with few embellishments.

IME A LOT happens in a young household in the compressed hours after dinner leading up to bedtime and mornings are busy too. Rare is sleeping in.

What did Lilly want, when she kept popping in? Sore throat medicine? Breakfast? Help with the TV remote? Help with little brother? Cereal? Help with milk? If Lilly was popping in, did he never see Jack? Never think to maybe check on a 4 year old? Was Lilly providing updates? I have questions.

PURE SPECULATION -- could cough syrup be the culprit? Too much? A little Babysitter Benadryl? A little too much?

Again, I don't know what happened here. In lieu of them being found, I'm just looking at possibilities. Thinking of similar cases... no foul play, foul play, accident.

JMO
 
  • #824
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Nova Scotia RCMP say two teams with cadaver dogs searched a total area of 40 square kilometres but did not locate human remains in the search for missing children Lilly and Jack Sullivan.
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In an interview on Wednesday, Oct. 8, Daniel Martell detailed how the dog teams searched around the property and inside the home during the week of Sept. 22.
 
  • #825
In judging what's appropriate for anyone involved in this *investigation*, especially in mind it is an ongoing *investigation*. Anything can be said in the interests of recovering the children, as an investigative strategy. Getting closely involved people to talk more can provide new clues.

When polygraphs are conucted, public use of the term "passed" is routine as an investigational tool if needed. Its not hard to figure out why. No, investigators don't care one bit if naive ppl feel betrayed because they don't understand their techniques. Doing repetitive polygraphs can be a sign there were areas of concern in the previous one and each subsequent polygraph delves more into the areas of concern revealed by the previous polygraph. DM has had HOW many polygraphs now?

This is an ongoing investigation. Yes, anyone involved in the investigation can say anything they want in an effort to solve this case. This is not a social gathering.
 
  • #826
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Nova Scotia RCMP say two teams with cadaver dogs searched a total area of 40 square kilometres but did not locate human remains in the search for missing children Lilly and Jack Sullivan.
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In an interview on Wednesday, Oct. 8, Daniel Martell detailed how the dog teams searched around the property and inside the home during the week of Sept. 22.

Whoa.

A lot to unpack in that second video.

 I have been really wrong before (another thread) so I don't state or pretend to know what's right here...

But... how can he say all the searchers should have understood they're "not t/here"? They haven't been found so no one knows where they are. Unless someone does.

Then a long paragraph about summer ending and school starting, the community, the world, the students who will miss Lilly and Jack. (What about what Jack and Lilly are missing???) But then THIS: "[infant child] doesn't understand ... but some day she will." Understand what???? We don't even know the outcome. I mean, sadly, we can expect or assume they aren't conning home... but since they haven't been located, there's still that glimmer that maybe there's a miracle to be had, right? The sort of glimmer parents hang onto desperately, sometimes for decades, but he's forecasting that someday [infant child] will have to contend with "this".

My main question: if he doesn't know where they are, how can he know where they're not?

If he doesn't know what happened to them (lost, foul play, accident, abduction, dingoes), how can he be certain that nothing that occurred the night before isn't relevant? Why no new details to fill out the night before that was so "normal"? Why no repetition of the morning?

Lotta hand gestures (as well, arms folded across his chest). Chris Watts nervous energy? Or grief?

I still don't know what happened to Lilly and Jack.

But this interview left me with more questions than answers.

JMO
 
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  • #827
Here's a wild thought:

What if DM is telling the 100% truth about everything?
 
  • #828
Whoa.

A lot to unpack in that second video.

 I have been really wrong before (another thread) so I don't state or pretend to know what's right here...

But... how can he say all the searchers should have understood they're "not t/here"? They haven't been found so no one knows where they are. Unless someone does.

Then a long paragraph about summer ending and school starting, the community, the world, the students who will miss Lilly and Jack. (What about what Jack and Lilly are missing???) But then THIS: "[infant child] doesn't understand ... but some day she will." Understand what???? We don't even know the outcome. I mean, sadly, we can expect or assume they aren't conning home... but since they haven't been located, there's still that glimmer that maybe there's a miracle to be had, right? The sort of glimmer parents hang onto desperately, sometimes for decades, but he's forecasting that someday [infant child] will have to contend with "this".

My main question: if he doesn't know where they are, how can he know where they're not?

If he doesn't know what happened to them (lost, foul play, accident, abduction, dingoes), how can he be certain that nothing that occurred the night before isn't relevant? Why no new details to fill out the night before that was so "normal"? Why no repetition of the morning?

Lotta hand gestures (as well, arms folded across his chest). Chris Watts nervous energy? Or grief?

I still don't know what happened to Lilly and Jack.

But this interview left me with more questions than answers.

JMO

I agree. It was definitely strange to me that he said he knows 100% they won't find anything.
 
  • #829
Here's a wild thought:

What if DM is telling the 100% truth about everything?

Good question! Surely LE are not solely focused on DM as is mainly the case here.

I’ve wondered why Malehya told Police she thought biodad picked up the children and took them to NewBrunswick. LE also got a tip that he and the children were sighted in a NB hotel. However BG says Cody was asleep when LE arrived at her home the morning of May 3, the day after they disappeared.

So has anybody an idea why MBM would accuse Cody of kidnapping given he claims he had no contact with her nor the children for three years? It just seems unusual to accuse him of something so serious. IIRC Cody and BG live 1/2 hour away from the Martell residence. It’d be really odd if DM and CS were strangers, maybe did they go to school together?

Just a comment, on a list of who benefits from the children going missing, one is Cody since it relieves him from many years of child support payments.
JMO
 
  • #830
Anybody know, is there a structure for the station animals? Or are they free range? What are they fed? Grazers? Is there mealtime at the barn like cows and horses often do? Are their diets supplemented? And with what?

I can't shake that recent tragedy where the missing girl was located, deceased, in a feed storage barrel.

Gus, where are you?

jmo
 
  • #831
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In an interview on Wednesday, Oct. 8, Daniel Martell detailed how the dog teams searched around the property and inside the home during the week of Sept. 22.
interesting that bit about the dog handler being suspicious of DM's lack of detail about their "normal" and unremarkable Thursday and DM's confusion about why people continue to ask for details about the day and evening.

Everything was normal, except by the next morning nothing was normal. It is valid to wonder what was happening in the days before the children went missing. He seems mortally offended by it. JMO
 
  • #832
Any fans of Tom Selleck in the Jesse Stone series of movies? He’s one of my favourite fictional police chiefs.
In one of the movies, Jesse is stumped. I always remember this line: “if you don’t like the answers you’re getting, check your premises”.
In other words, go back to the beginning and reexamine your assumptions and beliefs.
(Please don’t flame me for quoting a fictional cop, lol)
Have we been assuming everything DM says is true? Or MBM?
Have we been assuming the children sighted with the woman in the gold car was not in fact J and L?
Have we assumed the 5 speed “ear witness” is lying?
Have we assumed JM is truthful or remembering correctly that she heard the children that morning?
Etc.
If one assumption is removed, the case can look completely different.
It seems a good practice, for anyone with a bias, or a favorite theory, to take away one of their assumptions. The picture might look quite different.
IMHO
 
  • #833
Anybody know, is there a structure for the station animals? Or are they free range? What are they fed? Grazers? Is there mealtime at the barn like cows and horses often do? Are their diets supplemented? And with what?

I can't shake that recent tragedy where the missing girl was located, deceased, in a feed storage barrel.

Gus, where are you?

jmo

I’m not sure what you’re referring to by “station animals”? If it’s the name of Landsdowne Station, the origin of the name of the small community goes back to when it was a busy railway stop decades ago. I didn’t notice any indication that anyone in the area is involved in livestock production.
 
  • #834
I’m not sure what you’re referring to by “station animals”? If it’s the name of Landsdowne Station, the origin of the name goes back to when it was a busy railway stop decades ago. I didn’t notice any indication that anyone in the area is involved in livestock production.
The comment you're referring to looks like it was intended for the thread about Gus Lamont, who is missing in Australia from a sheep farm called a station, and just ended up in the wrong place by mistake.
 
  • #835
The comment you're referring to looks like it was intended for the thread about Gus Lamont, who is missing in Australia from a sheep farm called a station, and just ended up in the wrong place by mistake.

Yes thank you, that’s it. No missing ranches!
 

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