CANADA Canada - Jack, 4 & Lilly Sullivan, 6, Vulnerable, wandered from home 10am, Gairloch Rd, Landsdowne Station, Pictou County, NS, 2 May 2025 #7

[su5ie]

He really believes that the children never went into the woods, so logically, he would think that searching the woods is a waste of money and that resources should be directed into what he seems to believe was a kidnapping.

For all we know, he might be right, although LE has said there was no evidence of kidnapping.

Wandering into the woods is still the most likely reason and the simplest explanation for their disappearance. The woods in that area is absolutely unforgiving. If that was the way they went, it's possible that the children will never be found.

So occams razor , the simplest solution, they wandered ??? But the simplest solution is not always the correct one

 

[su5ie]

Unfortunately, the helicopters, heat sensor cameras and drones were of limited value because of the dense tree canopy. I wish that the pics turn out to be helpful, but I don't have a lot of confidence that they will show much.

I once seen a documentary, can't remember the name , where the film makers used night vision lens to film the roosting of a certain kind of bird . The canopy was fairly dense but one could see each bird from the flock clearly.

I wonder was similar night vision lens used on the drones and helicopter during the search

 

[su5ie]

I don't recall his initial comments but she definitely pleaded with LE to put out an Amber alert.

All along LE have said there isn't any evidence of an abduction. But the more I think about it, realistically I have to wonder, what evidence would there be? No one saw anything, no surveillance cams to capture anything, no strange tire marks in the drive way. According to all the adults there, they were there inside the trailer, then outside playing, then... gone.

More and more it does sound like it's a real possibility someone drove up, lured the kids into a vehicle, and drove away.

jmo

I wonder did LE base their assumption that it wasn't likely an abduction because of the isolation of the property but if that's all its based off , it seems to be a blinkered response because it was ruled out almost immediately and they have never spoke about the rationale behind that conclusion

 

[Serononin]

I wonder did LE base their assumption that it wasn't likely an abduction because of the isolation of the property but if that's all its based off , it seems to be a blinkered response because it was ruled out almost immediately and they have never spoke about the rationale behind that conclusion

I don't think they've ever fully ruled it out, there just isn't any specific evidence pointing towards that scenario

 

[MistyWaters]

I once seen a documentary, can't remember the name , where the film makers used night vision lens to film the roosting of a certain kind of bird . The canopy was fairly dense but one could see each bird from the flock clearly.

I wonder was similar night vision lens used on the drones and helicopter during the search

Thermal imaging, that’s the term I was referring to. It was used at night as well. It detects body heat.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scotia/missing-children-lilly-jack-sullivan-timeline-1.7535707

“Four drones with thermal imaging technology are used at night to look for heat signatures in the woods.”

 

[MistyWaters]

I don't think they've ever fully ruled it out, there just isn't any specific evidence pointing towards that scenario

I agree. It was the demand for an Amber Alert that led the RCMP to declare there was no evidence of an abduction. In Canada the criteria for an AA is evidence to assist in identifying the abductor such as a minimal description of them and usually a vehicle so the public have some means to help by identifying the possible perp. LE didn’t have that as the family didn’t observe the children being taken away.

But the RCMP never said it’s impossible for an abduction to have occurred. There’s no way they could know that given the children have not been found.
JMO

 

[su5ie]

I don't think they've ever fully ruled it out, there just isn't any specific evidence pointing towards that scenario

I agree. It was the demand for an Amber Alert that led the RCMP to declare there was no evidence of an abduction. In Canada the criteria for an AA is evidence to assist in identifying the abductor such as a minimal description of them and usually a vehicle so the public have some means to help by identifying the possible perp. LE didn’t have that as the family didn’t observe the children being taken away.

But the RCMP never said it’s impossible for an abduction to have occurred. There’s no way they could know that given the children have not been found.
JMO

Was it not stated in later press releases that the rcmp didn't think it was an abduction.

My stance on it being said early on in the public realm is that it could have possibly stopped tipsters coming forward within that crucial twilight period. Like say the lady who spotted curl lady with tan / gold sedan . Did she not come forward a couple of weeks later . Whereas it might have gave a better lead had it been earlier

Like posters say the Canadian police forces play things close to their chest , I just feel in this instance re no abduction, they showed their hand to quick

I understand the reasoning behind no Amber alert and I fully agree . With no vehicle identified, potential witnesses would be chasing their tails

 

[MistyWaters]

Was it not stated in later press releases that the rcmp didn't think it was an abduction.

My stance on it being said early on in the public realm is that it could have possibly stopped tipsters coming forward within that crucial twilight period. Like say the lady who spotted curl lady with tan / gold sedan . Did she not come forward a couple of weeks later . Whereas it might have gave a better lead had it been earlier

Like posters say the Canadian police forces play things close to their chest , I just feel in this instance re no abduction, they showed their hand to quick

I understand the reasoning behind no Amber alert and I fully agree . With no vehicle identified, potential witnesses would be chasing their tails

I hadn’t noticed any comments from the RCMP regarding an abduction that’s not directly related to why an Amber Alert wasn’t issued, although from that it became loosely repeated many, many times on SM that police ruled out an abduction. It sometimes happens when one reads something over and over it becomes a fact of the case.