CANADA Canada - Jack, 4 & Lilly Sullivan, 6, Vulnerable, wandered from home 10am, Gairloch Rd, Landsdowne Station, Pictou County, NS, 2 May 2025 #7

[303gmf]

I think it's important to remember, whatever may be normal or common for anyone else when it comes to their kid's teachers & first day of school, may not at all be the "normal" or common for other people in other places. Especially in more rural areas.

Interesting, I have a rural area residing daughter, the school has parent events, kindergarten round up events and meet the teacher before the first day begins. Typically not just one chance, and in the evenings to accommodate work schedules
This mom had a car right?

 

[flowershop]

Like many of you I am trying to understand why MBM would leave her partner and her residence in the days following the disappearance of J and L.

DM claims to have suspicions about what could have happened to his stepchildren as evidenced by his last statement in the latest interview...where he talks about "pointing fingers". I don't know if anyone has brought this up before but could he have insisted on these suspicions in the first few days following the disappearance of J and L and driven MBM to leave the residence? Perhaps she is afraid he will be correct and/or simply that she cannot stand to be in the same house where the suspicions are being thrown around.

 

[steff13]

This mom had a car right?

She did, in fact she got a license plate or something for it the day before the kids disappeared.

I meant to ask about that actually. In my state, you renew your registration on your vehicle every year, and it's due on your birthday. You get a little sticker that shows that it's registered until your birthday the next year. If you miss it or you don't have the money to do it at the time that it's due, you can still drive your car, obviously, but you're at risk of being ticketed if a police officer sees you driving with expired tags. Does it work similarly in Canada? I'm just wondering if there's any significance to the fact that she did this the day before the kids disappeared.

 

[thor124]

I think there are a few small bodies of water close by, if I’m reading the maps right.
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(Google map image.) Highlighted in blue is what looks like a stream that runs into a small body of water.

I’ve read that the blanket was found on Lansdowne Road or Lansdowne Station Road. If the truth is the latter, it was found close to that stream.

There’s also a stream that intersects with the pipeline trail where the boot prints were found. View attachment 619614
(Google map image.) The blue highlights what looks like a stream that runs into a small body of water.

If the step-grandmother was planning to place a pool at the home, maybe they had the idea to go find fish or frogs for it. (Not understanding that the pool would be ready probably in June.)

When I was six I went missing for over a hour from the school grounds during recess. I wanted to go home to get something for show and tell. That’s why I now have it stuck in my head that if we knew what possibly motivated them to leave the property that morning, it might lead us to where they are.

Six year old me was excited about talking about my toys, and that overrode doing something against the rules. I also had no sense of how quickly time was going by, or that people would be concerned.

From what I can see you've highlighted a stream in your first image. The second image I think your seeing a trail, not a stream.

It's actually a pretty hilly area, combined with the dense forest it'd be a nightmare to search.

Link to Google Maps

 

[Serononin]

Like many of you I am trying to understand why MBM would leave her partner and her residence in the days following the disappearance of J and L.

DM claims to have suspicions about what could have happened to his stepchildren as evidenced by his last statement in the latest interview...where he talks about "pointing fingers". I don't know if anyone has brought this up before but could he have insisted on these suspicions in the first few days following the disappearance of J and L and driven MBM to leave the residence? Perhaps she is afraid he will be correct and/or simply that she cannot stand to be in the same house where the suspicions are being thrown around.

My speculation is that DM is "pointing fingers" at MBM's family members, partly because they apparently accused him first, and partly because they were the ones to find the blanket in the woods. A lot of what he's said has given me the impression that he's insinuating that MBM's family are attempting to somehow frame him for whatever happened to the children

 

[tlcya]

Being kept out and awake so late at night might indicate no intention of kids going to school the next day? I would hope they weren't kept awake that late ordinarily on school nights??

MBM STATES IT WS THE COUPLE' NORMAL PRACTICE TO PUT THE KIDS DOWN FOR BED AT AROUND 7:30 PM. FWIW.

Since they were out so late and doubtful they were up so early, she must have judged they had bad coughs the night before? Did the security cams at the store show them coughing?
EXCELLENT QUESTION

Did Lily take her backpack to bed with her because she really wanted to go to school the next day and she wanted to be ready to race out the door, already dressed? School could have been a safe environment of stability & care for her.
GREAT POINT AND MAY BE THE CASE

On being "hyper and wound up", there have been MANY accidental overdoses over the years of benadryl given to put kids to sleep quickly and on cue. Was benadryl found in the house?

SAD AND TRUE, THE COURT DOCS DON'T GIVE ANY INDICATION WHAT MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE BEEN FOUND IN THAT REGARD.

Any idea how far this is from Daniel's mother's property they were living on?
I BELIEVE IT IS ABOUT A HALF HOUR FROM THE HOMESTEAD DM AND HIS MOM RESIDE ON

That wrench, even wedged in, was still a hazard to the children and anyone else who might jerk hard on the door trying to get it open. That woukd def have been noted in a home visitation and inspection by child protective services.

I DON'T DISAGREE. BUT THEN I THINK THERE WRE A LOT OF HAZARDS ON THAT PROPERTY (JMO) BUT NECESSITY IS THE MOTHER OF INVENTION AND WHEN POOR PEOPLE GET CREATIVE WITH THEIR PROBLEM SOLVING.

my responses are beneath each of yours in caps

 

[MistyWaters]

She did, in fact she got a license plate or something for it the day before the kids disappeared.

I meant to ask about that actually. In my state, you renew your registration on your vehicle every year, and it's due on your birthday. You get a little sticker that shows that it's registered until your birthday the next year. If you miss it or you don't have the money to do it at the time that it's due, you can still drive your car, obviously, but you're at risk of being ticketed if a police officer sees you driving with expired tags. Does it work similarly in Canada? I'm just wondering if there's any significance to the fact that she did this the day before the kids disappeared.

In Nova Scotia and most of Canada the registration renewal date is based on a preset month associated to the first letter of the last name, in this case ‘B’ for Brooks. Google indicates the expiry month for ‘B’ is February and registration can be completed two months in advance. Unless Brooks isn’t a legal last name it wouldn’t appear registration was due in May, unless the vehicle was expired for a few months.

Curious, where’s it said she renewed her registration the day before the children went missing?

 

[Lexiintoronto]

In Nova Scotia and most of Canada the registration renewal date is based on a preset month associated to the first letter of the last name, in this case ‘B’ for Brooks. Google indicates the expiry month for ‘B’ is February and registration can be completed two months in advance. Unless Brooks isn’t a legal last name it wouldn’t appear registration was due in May, unless the vehicle was expired for a few months.

Curious, where’s it said she renewed her registration the day before the children went missing?

It was a plate for her new car.

“On Wednesday, April 30, all five, including Jack and Lilly's baby sister, went to Brooks-Murray's grandmother's house to do laundry at 2 p.m.

More than an hour later, Brooks-Murray took the baby with her to get a licence plate for her car while Martell stayed at her grandmother's house with Jack and Lilly.”

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scotia/extensive-rcmp-scrutiny-of-missing-children-s-mother-stepfather-suggests-no-criminal-involvement-1.7615551

 

[lastkiss]

Interestingly in his latest interview when asked about the door, there was no mention of the wrench.

He said he knew with 100% certainty they didn't exit the front door as when he first ran out looking for them he tried to come back in the front door to get car keys and it was locked so he had to come back in the sliding door.

Every time that wrench is mentioned I have a vision of a little person opening that door and getting a heavy metal tool falling right on their little head. What was he thinking.

 

[MistyWaters]

It was a plate for her new car.

“On Wednesday, April 30, all five, including Jack and Lilly's baby sister, went to Brooks-Murray's grandmother's house to do laundry at 2 p.m.

More than an hour later, Brooks-Murray took the baby with her to get a licence plate for her car while Martell stayed at her grandmother's house with Jack and Lilly.”

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scotia/extensive-rcmp-scrutiny-of-missing-children-s-mother-stepfather-suggests-no-criminal-involvement-1.7615551

Thank you. So was the vehicle was bought that same day I wonder? Typically one would need a license plate to drive it away from the site where it was purchased. If so somebody must’ve driven them all to the grandmas and then they all went home in the new vehicle? Wasn’t it her grandma who bought MBM the new vehicle??? Call me confused.

 

[flowershop]

Thank you. So was the vehicle was bought that same day I wonder? Typically one would need a license plate to drive it away from the site where it was purchased. If so somebody must’ve driven them all to the grandmas and then they all went home in the new vehicle? Wasn’t it her grandma who bought MBM the new vehicle??? Call me confused.

When we are referring to a new car do we mean a new one from the dealership? Or just a new to MBM vehicle that was purchased used?

Cars from dealerships in the US have temporary license plates that are usually paper. Not sure what the norm is in Canada when a car is purchased off of a dealership.

 

[FromGermany1]

It was a plate for her new car.

“On Wednesday, April 30, all five, including Jack and Lilly's baby sister, went to Brooks-Murray's grandmother's house to do laundry at 2 p.m.

More than an hour later, Brooks-Murray took the baby with her to get a licence plate for her car while Martell stayed at her grandmother's house with Jack and Lilly.”

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scotia/extensive-rcmp-scrutiny-of-missing-children-s-mother-stepfather-suggests-no-criminal-involvement-1.7615551

Now I would like to learn of the story, what car she drove before, why it had to be exchanged for a new one and and who bought the old car from her, if at all. - Can't say, why I want to know. Probably I'm searching for mysterious connections?

 

[su5ie]

Being kept out and awake so late at night might indicate no intention of kids going to school the next day? I would hope they weren't kept awake that late ordinarily on school nights??

Since they were out so late and doubtful they were up so early, she must have judged they had bad coughs the night before? Did the security cams at the store show them coughing?

Did Lily take her backpack to bed with her because she really wanted to go to school the next day and she wanted to be ready to race out the door, already dressed? School could have been a safe environment of stability & care for her.

On being "hyper and wound up", there have been MANY accidental overdoses over the years of benadryl given to put kids to sleep quickly and on cue. Was benadryl found in the house?

Any idea how far this is from Daniel's mother's property they were living on?

That wrench, even wedged in, was still a hazard to the children and anyone else who might jerk hard on the door trying to get it open. That woukd def have been noted in a home visitation and inspection by child protective services.

I'm starting to think the kids may have been a flight risk or because they were deemed to have possible autism , the door being unable to be closed securely might have been part of a check list to be fixed by cps to ensure the safety of the kids . I'm wondering is this why the memo was sent so soon to higher ups .
Prehaps there was a follow up visit scheduled to see if certain criteria had been met and the visit wasn't scheduled in a certain timeframe to do this ,

If the wrench was a quick fix ,Prehaps this is why so much emphasis was put on the sliding door being the escape route , hardly going to publicly declare details of things flagged during a cps visit .

Although bears are making a return to nova scotia, there are very few and if a bear was hanging around why did mbm not state this in her televised plea on day 2 . Surely the kids being attacked by a bear would be front and centre in your mind if DM had to take security measures to prevent it coming into the trailer .

Another thing stated early on was DM was fixing a fence the Thursday evening. Was this also a requirement from cps to ensure the kids were secure ?

 

[MistyWaters]

When we are referring to a new car do we mean a new one from the dealership? Or just a new to MBM vehicle that was purchased used?

Cars from dealerships in the US have temporary license plates that are usually paper. Not sure what the norm is in Canada when a car is purchased off of a dealership.

I don’t know the source for Malehya getting a “new car” other than being mentioned on these threads. Lexiintoronto maybe you remember? The only thing I recall is a photo of the yard with two or three vehicles parked in it and one didn’t have a license plate. Anyone? What do we know about a new car and how could MBM pay for it, if not given to her? Hopefully the source is not FB.

In Canada either the dealership arranges registration as a courtesy or the new owner must obtain a licence place and insurance prior to driving it off the lot.

 

[tlcya]

Now I would like to learn of the story, what car she drove before, why it had to be exchanged for a new one and and who bought the old car from her, if at all. - Can't say, why I want to know. Probably I'm searching for mysterious connections?

my understanding is MBM had no vehicle, that the only vehicle the couple had was DM's but his broke down leaving them with no running vehicle. So her grandmother helped her secure a car and paid the associated licensing and registration fees. I haven't heard about any old car.