CANADA Canada - Jack, 4 & Lilly Sullivan, 6, Vulnerable, wandered from home 10am, Gairloch Rd, Landsdowne Station, Pictou County, NS, 2 May 2025 #7

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"As soon as I seen they were gone, immediately jumped in the car and did all the dirt roads, all the culverts, checked over the rivers and streams. As soon as I got home 10 minutes later, I headed out on foot.”

Prehaps it felt like 10mins but it does seem like such a short space of time [ 10 minutes] to cover all those areas .

In this statement he says he headed out on foot upon his return , but yet I seem to recall when he returned, the rcmp had arrived and from documents or different article he states he was told not to go back into the woods ,so I'm assuming the rcmp told him this after he searched in the vehicle and on foot
 
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"As soon as I seen they were gone, immediately jumped in the car and did all the dirt roads, all the culverts, checked over the rivers and streams. As soon as I got home 10 minutes later, I headed out on foot.”

He afaik jumped into MBM's car and not into his own. The neighbors by night heard his own loud car, at least one neighbor. Why changing the cars: by night a loud one, by day a much less noisy one? Except the noise, why did he change the car at all? Shouldn't MBM get to know, that he drove HER "new" car by night? Didn't she hear anything over the night? How soundly does she sleep?
 
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He afaik jumped into MBM's car and not into his own. The neighbors by night heard his own loud car, at least one neighbor. Why changing the cars: by night a loud one, by day a much less noisy one? Except the noise, why did he change the car at all?
A car that was apparently off the road in need of repair ?

Or was it an atv and not a car . Some atvs can be noisy and also have very bright headlights and in intial reports it was stated it was a five speed which can indicate an off road vehicle
 
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A car that was apparently off the road in need of repair ?

Or was it an atv and not a car . Some atvs can be noisy and also have very bright headlights and in intial reports it was stated it was a five speed which can indicate an off road vehicle
I was wondering about that, too
 
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"As soon as I seen they were gone, immediately jumped in the car and did all the dirt roads, all the culverts, checked over the rivers and streams. As soon as I got home 10 minutes later, I headed out on foot.”

Wow, I couldn't do all that in 10 minutes...
 
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It seems an unnecessary detail. Especially given his claims that he saw/heard them in the morning.
It may look so. But I think all he says is very important, even if does not have much sense at first (e.g. him saying in the early CBC interiew something like "the neighbor wants to take a heat off themselves" which is clearly a deflection). And we need to listen.
 
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"As soon as I seen they were gone, immediately jumped in the car and did all the dirt roads, all the culverts, checked over the rivers and streams. As soon as I got home 10 minutes later, I headed out on foot.”

Thank you for finding that link! I find that to be such a strange reaction, and I do view it as "reactive" rather than "intentional". That is, he reactively drove to another location to look for the children in a culvert. If he had been innocently thinking about where they wandered, wouldn't he start by checking the area around the house first, checking vehicles, under the mobile home, the chicken coop, checked with his mother, then checked farther away? Checking a culvert down the road first seems unnatural.
 
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Wow, I couldn't do all that in 10 minutes...
Considering he waded through waist deep water too or maybe that was after as the vehicle would have been soaking wet if his clothing was .
 
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Thank you for finding that link! I find that to be such a strange reaction, and I do view it as "reactive" rather than "intentional". That is, he reactively drove to another location to look for the children in a culvert. If he had been innocently thinking about where they wandered, wouldn't he start by checking the area around the house first, checking vehicles, under the mobile home, the chicken coop, checked with his mother, then checked farther away? Checking a culvert down the road first seems unnatural.
Yes, odd reaction *unless* he had reason to believe or knew that the kids had headed down that road earlier that morning or even in the night. ~~Two neighbors heard Daniel's car drive down the road, stop, then return multiple times in the night. Is it possible something happened that made the kids want to run away and Daniel went after them and brought them back several times in the night? Or could they have been taken down the road intentionally and left there, each one successively, to "teach them a lesson"? In social service work, we did have some parents thinking being left behind was an acceptable way to modify kids' behavior or attitude.

On Malehya's sleeping through all this, IF she was taking sleep medication, it could have certainly affected her level of awareness to lights and sounds. There are some doctors who readily prescribe sleep medication, even benzodiazapines like Valium, Ativan, and their generics, to mothers of newborns and toddlers who are overwhelmed by lack of sleep. Even over the counter meds like benadryl can do this.
 
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Thank you for finding that link! I find that to be such a strange reaction, and I do view it as "reactive" rather than "intentional". That is, he reactively drove to another location to look for the children in a culvert. If he had been innocently thinking about where they wandered, wouldn't he start by checking the area around the house first, checking vehicles, under the mobile home, the chicken coop, checked with his mother, then checked farther away? Checking a culvert down the road first seems unnatural.
Prehaps checking relatives homes along landsdowne Road too ,

There is two reasons why he may have reactively looked to water as a location.

Number 1 on my mind is if janie was raking for a pool and the kids were hyper before going to bed prehaps they were excited about a pool and expressed a desire to go swimming and his first instinct was the kids had headed to water to swim .

Secondly if he was aware autistic children can be attracted to water he may have instinctively checked any water areas but would the majority of people be aware of this fact , I'm an autism mum and I only became aware of that fact through this thread . My child hates water, worst nightmare

There is a third option but until or if a poi is ever named , its off the table
 
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Volunteer group joining search for missing N.S. kids​


 
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Interesting, I have a rural area residing daughter, the school has parent events, kindergarten round up events and meet the teacher before the first day begins. Typically not just one chance, and in the evenings to accommodate work schedules
This mom had a car right?

her mother (?) or grandmother (?) had just recently got her a car and Daniel's was not running (supposedly)
 
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My speculation is that DM is "pointing fingers" at MBM's family members, partly because they apparently accused him first, and partly because they were the ones to find the blanket in the woods. A lot of what he's said has given me the impression that he's insinuating that MBM's family are attempting to somehow frame him for whatever happened to the children

or neighbours trying to frame him is the feeling I got too
 
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Now I would like to learn of the story, what car she drove before, why it had to be exchanged for a new one and and who bought the old car from her, if at all. - Can't say, why I want to know. Probably I'm searching for mysterious connections?

she probably drove Daniel's before it broke down JMO
I haven't seen any info that states she had to 'exchange' a car
 
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Can someone sum up all the facts we have for right now?
 
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or neighbours trying to frame him is the feeling I got too
To think everyone is conspiring against Daniel is going down the rabbit hole , it's victim mentality and woe is me . Not aimed at you ,just a generalised analysis of human behaviour

The only woe and victims is lilly and jack .

Witnesses came forward and stated their truth or version of events . Whether their input is relevant to the kids going missing remains to be seen but to think neighbours would deliberately mislead because of a want to frame him is a bit far fetched even for neighbours that prehaps didn't get on with him

As regards blaming or framing coming from mbms family , crisis situations can bring out the worst in families especially when in laws are concerned, I personally didn't read into that argument between families too much . Think of family funerals and weddings and the accusations that can fly at those, I see a similar scenario here tbh
 
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To think everyone is conspiring against Daniel is going down the rabbit hole , it's victim mentality and woe is me . Not aimed at you ,just a generalised analysis of human behaviour

The only woe and victims is lilly and jack .

Witnesses came forward and stated their truth or version of events . Whether their input is relevant to the kids going missing remains to me seen but to think neighbours would deliberately mislead because of a want to frame him is a bit far fetched even for neighbours that prehaps didn't get on with him

As regards blaming or framing coming from mbms family , crisis situations can bring out the worst in families especially when in laws are concerned, I personally didn't read into that argument between families too much . Think of family funerals and weddings and the accusations that can fly at those, I see a similar scenario here tbh
Nothing to indicate the neighbours would deliberately mislead but since this tip wasn’t given to the RCMP until six days after the children went missing, the same date the search was initially called off, the neighbours might’ve gotten the date wrong.

All those those searchers, drones and helicopters converging day after day, wouldn’t it have occurred to the neighbours to notify authorities of their important information the very next day instead of waiting almost an entire week? It’s not unusual for people to hear or see something, then learn of a an incident and later thinking about it the two events get merged together even if the dates don’t coincide. This is one of the main reason that tips often don’t pan out especially when the tips to LE come in several days later.

Depending on the location of trail cams, the RCMP may’ve already determined it didn’t occur the night of May 2nd as it doesn’t appear they’re very interested in this tip. After all, it wasn’t even redacted.
JMO

ETA - Is this to say that what was revealed in the documents is not involved in the Investigative process? Aka..Is not believed to be key in solving the case?
“The remaining redactions reflect ongoing concerns related to privacy and continued protection of the investigative process.”
 
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Prehaps it felt like 10mins but it does seem like such a short space of time [ 10 minutes] to cover all those areas .

In this statement he says he headed out on foot upon his return , but yet I seem to recall when he returned, the rcmp had arrived and from documents or different article he states he was told not to go back into the woods ,so I'm assuming the rcmp told him this after he searched in the vehicle and on foot
Dbm
 

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