NY - UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson fatally shot in Midtown. #10 *Arrest*

[Tiff23fr]

bbm

Speaks volumes- imo.



The Baltimore millionaire, however, put a special condition in her will to cut off any heirs who had been charged with “heinous” or “violent” crimes, which could leave Luigi, 26, high and dry for allegedly gunning down Brian Thompson, a father of two.

Luigi Mangione’s grandma left family $30 million in will — but the alleged assassin may never see a penny

Philanthropist Mary C. Mangione left her family an estate worth at least $30 million in her will, but grandson Luigi Mangione could be cut off if he’s found guilty of killing UnitedHealthcare…

nypost.com

@alcaprari23


NEW: Missing persons report: Nov. 18, missing persons report was filed. San Francisco Police reached out to NYPD and told them Mangione resembled the suspect. NYPD was in the process of vetting the tip, including reaching out to Mangione's mother. Mom told officers about the murder: "it might be something I could see him doing."


3:49 PM · Dec 17, 2024

Here is the live press conference
Some added discussion around the MPReport is at 7:28

 

[Tiff23fr]

bbm

Speaks volumes- imo.



The Baltimore millionaire, however, put a special condition in her will to cut off any heirs who had been charged with “heinous” or “violent” crimes, which could leave Luigi, 26, high and dry for allegedly gunning down Brian Thompson, a father of two.

Luigi Mangione’s grandma left family $30 million in will — but the alleged assassin may never see a penny

Philanthropist Mary C. Mangione left her family an estate worth at least $30 million in her will, but grandson Luigi Mangione could be cut off if he’s found guilty of killing UnitedHealthcare…

nypost.com

@alcaprari23


NEW: Missing persons report: Nov. 18, missing persons report was filed. San Francisco Police reached out to NYPD and told them Mangione resembled the suspect. NYPD was in the process of vetting the tip, including reaching out to Mangione's mother. Mom told officers about the murder: "it might be something I could see him doing."


3:49 PM · Dec 17, 2024

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[Friday Fan]

NEW: Missing persons report: Nov. 18, missing persons report was filed. San Francisco Police reached out to NYPD and told them Mangione resembled the suspect. NYPD was in the process of vetting the tip, including reaching out to Mangione's mother. Mom told officers about the murder: "it might be something I could see him doing."


3:49 PM · Dec 17, 2024

MOO MOO One thing about what she said: Is it a direct quote or is it paraphrasing?

At this point it's hearsay and the media may be interpreting it.

For all we know she could have said that it looks like him OR she could have made a comment about his behavior. We just don't know....MOO MOO..

We don't know if it is a word for word quote or not. In this case the word "doing" is holding alot of meaning.

What if we find a direct quote and she didn't say the word "doing"?? MOO MOO

 

[I am not Sherlock H.]

Am I understanding and interpreting recent events correctly?

So IIUC 1) LM’s mother might have wondered in a discussion with authorities if her son LM might have been capable of the slaying of the health executive CEO? 2) The grandmother had provisions in a will that would have a disinheritance provision for one with criminal or similar conduct? And 3) apparently there have been no visits to the suspect in jail by family?

Interesting. MOO

 

[Charlot123]

Kind of off topic, but it’s interesting that no long term significant other of LM’s has come forward - in fact, I’ve seen people see they matched with him on dating apps, but no one seems to have met up with him. Maybe his back injury was already preventing intimacy and he was using the apps to, in a way, affirm that he’s attractive / dateable? Or maybe he wasn’t interested in dating, just travel and tech. Either way, kind of strange to me for a seemingly smart, handsome, kind guy (at least before December 2024…).

Even if the back injury got worse with time, you’d expect someone to have dated him for a bit. Maybe any significant other or ex is a bit more sympathetic than his other ‘friends’ and don’t want to come forward. It definitely gives Ted Kazynski vibes.
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All IMO/MOO

JMO: I wonder if his “low back pain” and later, reported intimacy problems could be a mere conversion reaction?

The kid was enrolled into religious prep non-coed school. One of the results might be obvious and normal given the circumstances . But if the mere thought is not acceptable in the family, then expect other reaction, including pain.

“Problems with intimacy” may be real, or of totally psychological, conversion type.

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All JMO, and of course, pain is a complex issue. IMHO, a stable, caring relationship would prevent one from what he did.

 

[NuttMegg]

Here is the live press conference
Some added discussion around the MPReport is at 7:28

8:04 he says they reached out to KM.... IN San Francisco. Emphasizing "in San Francisco". The powers that be can't be too happy with Kenny releasing what he claims were the Mother's words, which were said to someone else, not him. What a way to seek cooperation from that family.

Imo

Hey @Tiff23fr thanks for looking that up.

 

[arielilane]

Timestamp 8:00: She didn’t indicate that it was her son in the photograph, but she said
"It might be something that she can see him do.”

 

[NuttMegg]

Timestamp 8:00: She didn’t indicate that it was her son in the photograph, but she said
"It might be something that she can see him do.”

It doesn't change anything, but imo he clearly said "doing". He kind of separated the 2 syllables, saying "do ing"

 

[Kapua]

It doesn't change anything, but imo he clearly said "doing". He kind of separated the 2 syllables, saying "do ing"

Start at 7:01 into the press conference. I was initially skeptical that KM actually said that, but I'll accept it for now. As you say, it doesn't change anything because the people at McDonald's spotted him before the public knew his name, and their tip was the one that resulted in his arrest. MOO

 

[DizzyB]

MOO MOO One thing about what she said: Is it a direct quote or is it paraphrasing?

At this point it's hearsay and the media may be interpreting it.

For all we know she could have said that it looks like him OR she could have made a comment about his behavior. We just don't know....MOO MOO..

We don't know if it is a word for word quote or not. In this case the word "doing" is holding alot of meaning.

What if we find a direct quote and she didn't say the word "doing"?? MOO MOO

I’ll try to find the clip, but I believe I saw a press conference and LE was the person stating what his mother had said.

Luigi Mangione's mother said she could 'see him doing' shooting of insurance CEO: police

The dramatic disclosure came at a news conference announcing Mangione's indictment in the shooting of UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson.

www.usatoday.com

 

[NuttMegg]

Start at 7:01 into the press conference. I was initially skeptical that KM actually said that, but I'll accept it for now. As you say, it doesn't change anything because the people at McDonald's spotted him before the public knew his name, and their tip was the one that resulted in his arrest. MOO

I was referring to the other poster saying that Kenny said "do", ie ending in "do". But he said "doing". And, it doesn't change anything, just a technicality. Just referring to that one word.

 

[ttjo]

start at 4:53

 

[NuttMegg]

MOO MOO One thing about what she said: Is it a direct quote or is it paraphrasing?

At this point it's hearsay and the media may be interpreting it.

For all we know she could have said that it looks like him OR she could have made a comment about his behavior. We just don't know....MOO MOO..

We don't know if it is a word for word quote or not. In this case the word "doing" is holding alot of meaning.

What if we find a direct quote and she didn't say the word "doing"?? MOO MOO

It's an officer or Agent repeating something conveyed to other agents working with the feds, who followed thru on 4 tips. He said they called the mother in San Francisco. Was that an error on his part, too? (Imo yes, he might have meant the agents in SF called her but that's not what he said in the video). He said they called his mother IN San Francisco, not from SF. I think we have to take his part of this presser with a grain of salt. He appears to have been repeating thru several layers of telephone game. 1) agents in SF. 2) police working with feds, 3) feds 4) resulting in his own choice of words to convey what, if true, would have been closely guarded for trial, imo. Even if she were a hostile witness....Mrs M, did you or did you not say that the murder looked like something your son might do?

Imo

 

[ttjo]

It's Officer or Agent Kenny repeating something conveyed to other agents working with the feds, who followed through on four tips. He said they called the mother in San Francisco. Was that an error on his part, too? (In, yes, he might have meant the agents in SF called her, but that's not what he said in the video). He said they called his mother IN San Francisco, not from SF. I think we have to take his part of this presser with a grain of salt. He appears to have been repeating through several layers of the telephone game. 1) agents in SF. 2) police working with feds, 3) feds, 4) resulting in his own choice of words to convey what, if true, would have been closely guarded for trial, IMO. Even if she were a hostile witness...Mrs M, did you or did you not say that the murder looked like something your son might do?

Imo

it almost sounds like they asked her. "do you think..." Either way, Would it matter what she said? She'd get heat no matter what, if she said it wasn't him or he wasn't capable, she'd get hate too." If anything, I would think she was probably hoping that if it was him, he'd be found before anyone else got hurt, including him.

 

[Sundog]

it almost sounds like they asked her. "do you think..." Either way, Would it matter what she said? She'd get heat no matter what, if she said it wasn't him or he wasn't capable, she'd get hate too." If anything, I would think she was probably hoping that if it was him, he'd be found before anyone else got hurt, including him.

I agree, his mother was likely hoping that he'd be found before anyone else got hurt, including him. If the reporting is accurate, I admire her for her morality and for doing what is right in the face of such a difficult situation. You can truly love your child and yet do what is right even if it's a terrible predicament to be in.

 

[Warwick7]

Luigi Mangione prosecutors have a jury problem: "So much sympathy"

A former prosecutor has said he has never seen so much sympathy for a person accused of murder.

www.newsweek.com

 

[NuttMegg]

Sean Morrow, a writer for More Perfect Union, wrote on X: "Artist Rachel Kenaston shared an email saying UnitedHealth Group filed a DMCA claim to stop her from selling a merchandise with HER artwork of Luigi Mangione. There was no United logo on the design, just Luigi. How does that infringe on UnitedHealth IP or copyright at all?"

UnitedHealth reportedly tries to stop Luigi Mangione merch being sold

Mangione remains jailed in Pennsylvania after being arrested in connection to the killing of UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson.

www.newsweek.com

 

[Friday Fan]

Sean Morrow, a writer for More Perfect Union, wrote on X: "Artist Rachel Kenaston shared an email saying UnitedHealth Group filed a DMCA claim to stop her from selling a merchandise with HER artwork of Luigi Mangione. There was no United logo on the design, just Luigi. How does that infringe on UnitedHealth IP or copyright at all?"

UnitedHealth reportedly tries to stop Luigi Mangione merch being sold

Mangione remains jailed in Pennsylvania after being arrested in connection to the killing of UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson.

www.newsweek.com

I don't think they can!

Maybe have some counter artists create non-flattering art of Luigi?? But it probably wouldn't sell.

I don't know....


Drawing attention to it will probably just create more motivation for money making ventures.

ETA: Many sites have TOS that prohibit selling of items that glorify violence. I think that's the route to go.

Why some sellers are taking down merchandise celebrating Luigi Mangione

Demand for merch featuring alleged UnitedHealthcare CEO shooter Luigi Mangione has surged while sites keep removing any items.

www.newsweek.com

However, UHC cannot hold a copyright over a killer!

 

[MassGuy]

As always what follows is all MOO. This post is deeply personal and comes from my own lived experience.

Chronic pain is a crazy-making experience. Please hear that I am NOT excusing or forgiving or in any way diminishing the seriousness and violence of this crime.

For a person with chronic pain, there can be a daily battle to maintain normalcy and optimism. If there has been some kind of medical error, it is difficult to forgive. Insurance stresses and constant financial outlays are par for the course and don’t go away, ever. A real sense of learned helplessness can pervade all aspects of a person’s life and relationships. I do not agree with LM’s actions, but I can see how an attempt to regain some sense of control over one’s own life could become twisted and misdirected. Again, I am absolutely NOT excusing the murder. My own theory is that LM was blaming our (MOO) inadequate healthcare system for its inability to relieve his/his mother’s pain. Which is ridiculously simplistic. Our human bodies are amazing and resilient but in the end we are mortal beings of flesh and bone and blood. Injuries happen, incurable genetic conditions exist, aging is no discriminator of human beings. Sometimes there is literally no one to blame for pain and painful conditions.

I’m sorry if this is repetitive (likely) but have the parts of the manifesto released about LM’s mother suffering severe pain over many years been validated? sorry I haven’t read every post to date.

That manifesto was fake. None of the family members were insured by United, and there's no evidence his mom suffered from health issues.

Here's a local news channel's debunking of it.

 

[Tiff23fr]

According to his friend, Luigi was "making lawyer money" coding for TrueCar ... a telling statement because Mangione reportedly stopped working for them months before going to Thailand.

He told our source he had $6 million in the bank, all of it coming from his family. Talking about his family seemed to be a sore subject, according to the friend, so he didn't press Luigi on it.

Luigi Mangione Claimed He Had $6 Million From His Family While on Vacation

Luigi Mangione mentioned the big bucks he had in the bank on a trip to Vietnam ... and also, repeatedly brought up a couple of revealing books -- TMZ has learned.

www.tmz.com