NY - UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson fatally shot in Midtown. #11 *Arrest*

[LinasK]

From what Ive read, he comes from a wealthy family. I would assume that his family is

His family is apparently paying for his high-priced lawyers, so he doesn't qualify as indigent. (Just piggybacking off your post).

 

[LinasK]

Have they established a motive? I read where he has had back surgery and was in constant pain from that. That doesn't give him the right to take another life. Was he denied some sort of treatment from an insurance company or is it still to early for that information to come out?

No information that he was denied any health insurance coverage. It sure wasn't from UHC since he didn't have UHC, and neither did his mother. He got back surgery. That isn't free. Lots of people live with chronic pain and don't go out and murder someone that they don't like.

 

[CrimeJunkie82]

No information that he was denied any health insurance coverage. It sure wasn't from UHC since he didn't have UHC, and neither did his mother. He got back surgery. That isn't free. Lots of people live with chronic pain and don't go out and murder someone that they don't like.

You are absolutely right. I live with chronic pain as does my son who has had multiple back surgeries. We certainly don't go out and do that.

 

[LinasK]

You are absolutely right. I live with chronic pain as does my son who has had multiple back surgeries.

Thank you, and I feel your pain. I know what bad pain is.

 

[cujenn81]

I strongly agree. Most of the people who are apparently supporting him, do not think he is a terrorist. If the prosecution brings on a strong case of terrorism, some jurors who were approved because of apparent neutrality regarding the murder, might have a hard time accepting terrorism, when they have to consider 'to what degree were massive numbers of Americans threatened?' Much grayer than did he murder someone or not.

The terrorism charge doesn’t have anything to do with everyday Americans or if they were threatened. It’s about the public execution of an individual with the intent to affect government policy and/or company policy (i.e., civilian coercion).

How New York prosecutors used a terrorism law in the charges against Luigi Mangione

Mangione is charged with first-degree and second-degree murder counts that specifically refer to a New York law that addresses terrorism. Essentially an add-on to existing criminal statutes, it says that an underlying offense constitutes “a crime of terrorism” if it’s done “with intent to intimidate or coerce a civilian population, influence the policy of a unit of government by intimidation or coercion or affect the conduct of a unit of government by murder, assassination or kidnapping.”

 

[acutename]

I'm sorry, I am sure that many people, too many, have had terrible experiences with insurance companies- have experienced pain, denied treatment-- and expectation levels that went "way wrong"- Do you think that is justification to murder an employee, be it a CEO or whomever the angered person decides should pay the price

We are talking murder here for God's sake--- It is distressing that so many people are supporting a cold-blooded killer and have empathy for him. Not only was it murder but this was a cowardly killing- following Mr. Thompson and shooting him in the back!!! it was cowardly! How come nobody is pointing out that LM committed a cowardly killing. He could have gone up to him face to him and shot him, which of course would be horrible, but he shot the man in the back!

I am curious if he was a source of any of the threats the wife mentioned.

 

[CrimeJunkie82]

No hospital is going to provide you non-emergency surgery if you are indigent. They don't do it for free. He HAD to have some insurance coverage to receive it.

You are absolutely right. No hospital at all will unless you are a child and going through Shriners. Correct me if Im wrong but I don't believe he was underage when he had that surgery.

 

[Arkay]

Wonder how they will top the last spectacle (when he arrived).
I guess a parade is out of the question.
Good news for the mayor, he won't need to hustle to get a float ready.

I’m going to go with Luigi will perform at halftime at the Super Bowl.

I mean, that horrid picture really made it look like he had an entourage, not like he was being perp-walked.

If he weren’t in an orange jumpsuit and wearing handcuffs, I would think he was some European prince surrounded by his bodyguards. With the mayor trotting behind to see if there’s anything Luigi may need.

JMO

 

[LinasK]

You are absolutely right. No hospital at all will unless you are a child and going through Shriners. Correct me if Im wrong but I don't believe he was underage when he had that surgery.

I went back and clarified my post, because I realized that if it was an emergency, like a car accident, they may have a policy about treating indigents, but back surgery I'd think would be Elective Surgery.

 

[CrimeJunkie82]

I went back and clarified my post, because I realized that if it was an emergency, like a car accident, they may have a policy about treating indigents, but back surgery I'd think would be Elective Surgery.

Either way, its obvious this wasn't an emergency surgery. So somehow, someway, money was paid for it

 

[CrimeJunkie82]

What I am not understanding is why all the extra security while he is being transported?

 

[Forest_Wood]

I went back and clarified my post, because I realized that if it was an emergency, like a car accident, they may have a policy about treating indigents, but back surgery I'd think would be Elective Surgery.

How would we know if he maybe had surgery in another country and paid cash?

 

[CrimeJunkie82]

How would we know if he maybe had surgery in another country and paid cash?

Still, he paid. Therefore, he definitely wasn't indigent.

 

[LinasK]

How would we know if he maybe had surgery in another country and paid cash?

We don't, but most likely it was done in the US, and the point I'm making is that no US hospital is going to perform Elective Surgery for free, so he wasn't indigent- he had to have some kind of health insurance to get it, just not United Healthcare, so why pick on them??

 

[Forest_Wood]

Still, he paid. Therefore, he definitely wasn't indigent.

I was referring to @LinasK post "They don't do it for free. He HAD to have some insurance coverage to receive it."

 

[Forest_Wood]

We don't, but most likely it was done in the US, and the point I'm making is that no US hospital is going to perform Elective Surgery for free, so he wasn't indigent- he had to have some kind of health insurance to get it, just not United Healthcare, so why pick on them??

I think LM answered that question where he (allegedly) wrote that he hit the jackpot (paraphrasing) when he found out about the investors meeting in NYC. MOO.

 

[eishish]

We don't, but most likely it was done in the US, and the point I'm making is that no US hospital is going to perform Elective Surgery for free, so he wasn't indigent- he had to have some kind of health insurance to get it, just not United Healthcare, so why pick on them??

Imagine if he covered his bases, did not get arrested and willy nilly just kept going. My belief, moo is he was on a quest, a movement. For reasons only he knows. Jmo

 

[acutename]

I’m going to go with Luigi will perform at halftime at the Super Bowl.

I mean, that horrid picture really made it look like he had an entourage, not like he was being perp-walked.

If he weren’t in an orange jumpsuit and wearing handcuffs, I would think he was some European prince surrounded by his bodyguards. With the mayor trotting behind to see if there’s anything Luigi may need.

JMO

the Mayor is an ex-cop so he likes to be involved in LE activities and beyond that, he wants the world's CEOs to feel safe in NYC, IMO.

 

[JDG]

I wonder, if with all the planing, was he planning on getting caught?

How might different it be had he got a hotel room that morning.

We do not know if that X-ray is his, might not have ever had surgery.

He sure didn’t move like someone in pain. At. All.

 

[LinasK]

I think LM answered that question where he (allegedly) wrote that he hit the jackpot (paraphrasing) when he found out about the investors meeting in NYC. MOO.

But that still doesn't answer as to why he chose UHC. Why not go after the healthcare company that he had?