NY - UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson fatally shot in Midtown. #3

[Elley Mae]

I wonder if he will try to travel by small plane? Maybe depends on connections he or, if he was hired, his employer has. I would think commercial airlines would be risky for him, probably Greyhound & Amtrack at this point... Jmo.

Jmo he still has the gun. He had it when he arrived. Why he came by bus. And left by bus.

 

[setyourselffree]

It's like a chase. He has to get somewhere safe before all this surveillance catches up with him. The police will probably soon figure out what bus he took. Which means if he is still on that bus he's going to be caught. So I would imagine he gets off pretty quickly.

Don’t forget, he got on the bus on Wednesday morning. He’s not on that bus anymore. And anyone can get off wherever they please regardless of final destination. So basically everywhere that bus stopped is a place he could have exited. I realize they’ll talk to the driver and probably narrow it down but with how loosely people are ‘tracked’ on bus rides, it’s possible the driver doesn’t even know when he got off.

 

[NottaYutz]

For military or ex-military: are all military people in US fingerprinted when they go to Basic Training? Wondering because that database is probably being searched (if one exists).

 

[ElizaKate]

I’m interested in his escape path. The 178th Street Bus Terminal is basically just a quiet facility at the Manhattan end of the George Washington Bridge, it isn’t elaborate like the Port Authority (where he arrived) and there are far fewer options (eg, no service to Atlanta.) Generally speaking it’s kind of best for people traveling between NYC and Bergen County NJ. Greyhound operates through there as part of their Philly-Boston service but I don’t see any busses that leave for parts unknown like that early in the morning. There are also some airport shuttles to EWR but none that I see at that time, either. The most common bus through there are NJTransit busses that ride south along the NJ side of the river. Very curious what he was doing up there because at that time of day his options for busses seem limited to local stuff (either MTA back to Manhattan or into the NJ burbs).

Thanks for looking at this. I tried. Got confused. Gave up.

 

[Inthedetails]

It's weird.

The planning here was incredibly detailed, and I think this guy is going to turn out to be quite intelligent.

But the fact that he carried out this crime, in this place, in this way, is insane. Even if he was perfect, which he absolutely was not, he had no reasonable chance of getting away with this; not with all those cameras.

He did everything in his power to cover his tracks, but slipped up with the mask, that Starbucks stop, and dropping his phone.

I give him credit for how long this has gone on, which is a testament to that extensive planning. But it's only a matter of time before he is captured, and when that happens, they'll have him dead to rights.

If he was hired, the person who hired him probably doesn't care if he's caught now or not. The job is done, mission accomplished.

If he was hired and caught, he might not spill the beans on who hired him because that person could arrange to kill the assassin too. For safety reasons, he might not say a word if caught.

If he doesn't get caught, he's now a valuable assassin for another job, I suppose. He'll have the opportunity to fix the errors he made, perhaps. Only half joking.

I don't think he's a lone wolf but I haven't completely crossed it off my list.

jmo

 

[Boodles]

Maybe he expects to be captured but was prepared to do it anyway.

Or he got back home (or wherever), and hopped a plane overseas for an extended time away.

 

[SleuthJan]

Don’t forget, he got on the bus on Wednesday morning. He’s not on that bus anymore. And anyone get get off wherever they please regardless of final destination. So basically everywhere that bus stopped is a place he could have exited. I realize they’ll talk to the driver and probably narrow it down but with how loosely people are ‘tracked’ on bus rides, it’s possible the driver doesn’t even know when he got off.

He could have flown out of EWR by Wednesday. His photo was published only yesterday, right?

 

[bamachica]

Looks like they were using AI last year to deny claims, not humans, and a lawsuit was pending:
"One criticism of UnitedHealthcare that has garnered attention following the shooting involves a lawsuit alleging the company uses artificial intelligence (AI) to deny coverage to some elderly patients who are on a Medicare Advantage plan, despite allegedly being aware that the algorithm has a 90 percent error rate."

A year before CEO shooting, lawsuit alleged UHC used AI to deny coverage

The lawsuit accuses UnitedHealthcare of using artificial intelligence to deny coverage to elderly patients.

www.newsweek.com

Yes, so many insurance co’s are using AI. Almost all use some form of it for medication approvals/denials, at least for the first 1-2 rounds of denials.

AI denied medication that supports my breathing and swallowing safely. Numerous times. Took almost 4 months and trips to the ER and being admitted to get a person to listen

 

[Big Ears]

AP reporting: "Police believe gunman who killed United Healthcare CEO has left New York City." Police believe the gunman who killed UnitedHealthcare's CEO left NYC on a bus after the shooting. apnews.com/article/unitedhealthcare-ceo-manhattan-shooting-death-48590215ba756741bbaadeeb6255d135

 

[Inthedetails]

I’m interested in his escape path. The 178th Street Bus Terminal is basically just a quiet facility at the Manhattan end of the George Washington Bridge, it isn’t elaborate like the Port Authority (where he arrived) and there are far fewer options (eg, no service to Atlanta.) Generally speaking it’s kind of best for people traveling between NYC and Bergen County NJ. Greyhound operates through there as part of their Philly-Boston service but I don’t see any busses that leave for parts unknown like that early in the morning. There are also some airport shuttles to EWR but none that I see at that time, either. The most common bus through there are NJTransit busses that ride south along the NJ side of the river but don’t go to Newark. Very curious what he was doing up there because at that time of day his options for busses seem limited to local stuff (either MTA back to Manhattan or jitneys into the NJ burbs).

He could've simply taken a bus across the GWB to NJ and met someone there in a vehicle.

jmo

 

[TTF14]

Don’t forget, he got on the bus on Wednesday morning. He’s not on that bus anymore. And anyone get get off wherever they please regardless of final destination. So basically everywhere that bus stopped is a place he could have exited. I realize they’ll talk to the driver and probably narrow it down but with how loosely people are ‘tracked’ on bus rides, it’s possible the driver doesn’t even know when he got off.

Maybe Greyhound buses have cameras?

 

[x_files]

maybe LE is looking on resale sites even now
imagine you find a backpack with a murder weapon in it....

This Thread is moving so quickly do we know what brand or type of backpack it is yet? I assume it's beige, or light gray with dark straps, correct?

 

[Synergizer Bunny]

I wonder if he will try to travel by small plane? Maybe depends on connections he or, if he was hired, his employer has. I would think commercial airlines would be risky for him, probably Greyhound & Amtrack at this point... Jmo.

Well, if I were a young, white guy, I would not be wearing a face mask, a hoodie or carrying an expensive backpack. I also would not be wearing expensive shoes. I can well imagine that everyone everywhere is on the lookout for this guy.

Maybe, people his age don't watch the news or pay attention to articles about things like this. Hopefully, someone has put his face on TikTok. Isn't that where the younger generation gets its news nowadays?

JMO.

 

[Stormy415]

AP tweeted this: "Police believe gunman who killed United Healthcare CEO has left New York City."

https://twitter.com/x/status/1865138570752606521

True I just heard it on the news. It is now a nationwide hunt.

I believe the LE know who he is right now. Somebody probably came forward to ID him from the pictures that are posted. JMO

 

[Boodles]

Jmo he still has the gun. He had it when he arrived. Why he came by bus. And left by bus.

Or he got off the bus at a random location, discarded the gun, then got a prearranged ride or back on a bus to return home (or to wherever he’s intending to stay).

 

[x_files]

This looks like a woman to me. JMO

The problem is making college-aged teens, and young adults dress, and walk exactly like the unknown shooter. I just hope the wrong person isn't arrested or worse shot by cops.

 

[ElizaKate]

Now it's being reported that "investigators believe the person may have boarded a bus at the port authority bus terminal near Times Square bound for Atlanta, Georgia." so The Port Authority terminal he arrived in to not GW Bridge.

Who knows which "sources" are right at this point.

Live updates: Backpack found as NY health boss shooting suspect search expands to Georgia

NYPD says the fatal shooting of UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson in Manhattan was "a brazen, targeted attack".

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[x_files]

I’m sure CEOs, if they cared to do so, could exert some influence over denial policies.

The CEO had AI recently implemented, and there's a pending lawsuit over it:

Making Health Care Work Smarter, For Everyone

www.unitedhealthgroup.com

 

[Elley Mae]

After biking out of Central Park, the man believed to be the shooter went on foot at Columbus Avenue and West 86th Street and hailed a taxi, which took him north to the George Washington Bridge Bus Station, a Port Authority-operated bus terminal at 178th Street.

He never exited the facility, and he is believed to have taken a bus out of New York City, officials say.

UnitedHealthcare CEO murder suspect no longer believed to be in New York City, NYPD says

The suspected killer of the United Healthcare CEO arrived by bus and now police believe he left New York City that way too.

abc7ny.com

 

[Inthedetails]

Now it's being reported that "investigators believe the person may have boarded a bus at the port authority bus terminal near Times Square bound for Atlanta, Georgia." so The Port Authority terminal he arrived in to not GW Bridge.

Who knows which "sources" are right at this point.

Live updates: Backpack found as NY health boss shooting suspect search expands to Georgia

NYPD says the fatal shooting of UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson in Manhattan was "a brazen, targeted attack".

www.bbc.co.uk

Oh for pete's sake. I know this is to be expected, but still annoying to get mixed-up stories in the news.

jmo