NY - UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson fatally shot in Midtown. #3

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  • #1,061
I think his goal from GW Bridge bus station was to get out of the city as quick as possible. From what I can tell, the bus going south, like to Philadelphia and beyond was not until 1:25 pm. The bus going north to Hartford, Boston was at 10:20 am. Out of those two, no way is he waiting for that Philly one. He would go towards Boston. Other choice would be taking a local NJ bus across the river if that's possible just to get out of the city and take something from there.
 
  • #1,062
I wonder why more physical details of the suspect haven’t been released by LE? (Weight, age, ethnicity, height, hair color etc) you’d think the folks at the hostel would have at least one or two details.
 
  • #1,063
And I think he's a dead ringer for Justin Trudeau.

If we’re making a list, the first “person” I thought of when I saw the masked Starbucks photo was Felonious Gru. Looks different without the mask though.
 
  • #1,064
A disgruntled employee or a client of UHC would not have access to the itinerary of the CEO down to the minute, and over 10 days in advance.
Wow. I have not thought about the killer possibly knowing that Thompson would be walking alone 10 days ahead of time. And that he would not have security with him.
 
  • #1,065
2 1/2 days after the murder we hear he catches cab to bus station an hour after the murder.
Mjmo
This is exactly as I thought it went, honestly.
 
  • #1,066
I’d kind of call in the shot to the head though, if it were me, and skip the calf and back ones :/
Just saying… rough way to go.
He wanted him to suffer in his last moments. Definitely a revenge killing. Moo
 
  • #1,067
They have a video of him on a cell phone at an exact known location and at an exact known time. Without getting into his (burner) phone shouldn't authorities be able to trace the call/log off a NYC cell tower...? (I asked Perplexity AI)
ANSWER:
Yes, authorities can obtain call logs and location data from cell phone companies if you are seen using a cell phone at a known location and time. Cell phone companies keep detailed records of calls, including the cell towers used, timestamps, and call durations.

These records, known as Call Data Records (CDRs), can be obtained through a subpoena or court order

The process works as follows:
* Cell towers record which phones connect to them during calls or data usage.

* This information is stored by the phone company, typically for 2-4 years.

* Authorities can request these records, which show which towers a phone is connected to and when.

* In urban areas, this data can pinpoint a phone's location to within about 50 meters.
 
  • #1,068
I think his goal from GW Bridge bus station was to get out of the city as quick as possible. From what I can tell, the bus going south, like to Philadelphia and beyond was not until 1:25 pm. The bus going north to Hartford, Boston was at 10:20 am. Out of those two, no way is he waiting for that Philly one. He would go towards Boston. Other choice would be taking a local NJ bus across the river if that's possible just to get out of the city and take something from there.
This is super interesting!! I was just wondering if someone could plot the routes and times from that station now we know what time he went in there. I wonder how many possibilities there are (if local buses are more regular) and just how many hours of CCTV footage at all those exits there will be!

IMO he would’ve wanted to get on any bus going in any direction to buy some distance to regroup and get on the right track. I’d be surprised if this part wasn’t meticulously planned too like the rest seems to be JMO.
 
  • #1,069
This is pretty strong, I think they know it’s his.

Backpack found in Central Park believed to belong to suspect, source says​

From CNN's John Miller
NYPD investigators found a backpack in Central Park that they believe belonged to the suspect in the killing of UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson, a law enforcement official told CNN.

Investigators have yet to officially confirm the origin of the bag and are taking it to be forensically tested in a lab in Queens, the source said.

An NYPD spokesperson confirmed to CNN that a backpack was found in the park but said it “still has to be processed.”

 
  • #1,070
Or was instructed to by whoever hired him. It didn’t seem personal to the killer at all. He was just the executioner.
He wanted him to suffer in his last moments. Definitely a revenge killing. Moo
 
  • #1,071
Idk but I’m starting to think it may be a weapon that can’t be traced.
If it really was an original for ww2 he could have bought it in pieces. New old stock or private owner parts can be found then put together to make the final product. That can be done with banned weapons also, just buy it in pieces then assemble.
 
  • #1,072
They have a video of him on a cell phone at an exact known location and at an exact known time. Without getting into his (burner) phone shouldn't authorities be able to trace the call/log off a NYC cell tower...? (I asked Perplexity AI)
ANSWER:
Yes, authorities can obtain call logs and location data from cell phone companies if you are seen using a cell phone at a known location and time. Cell phone companies keep detailed records of calls, including the cell towers used, timestamps, and call durations.
RSBM

We may find he was talking to BT himself on that call. For all we know he had the guy’s cell and called him to feign discussing the meeting, and then ambushed him…

OR he may have simply been pretending to talk to someone, and the phone is deeply encrypted and has nothing on it. Or a manifesto/message on it.

We just don’t know yet…
 
  • #1,073
They have a video of him on a cell phone at an exact known location and at an exact known time. Without getting into his (burner) phone shouldn't authorities be able to trace the call/log off a NYC cell tower...? (I asked Perplexity AI)
ANSWER:
Yes, authorities can obtain call logs and location data from cell phone companies if you are seen using a cell phone at a known location and time. Cell phone companies keep detailed records of calls, including the cell towers used, timestamps, and call durations.

These records, known as Call Data Records (CDRs), can be obtained through a subpoena or court order

The process works as follows:
* Cell towers record which phones connect to them during calls or data usage.

* This information is stored by the phone company, typically for 2-4 years.

* Authorities can request these records, which show which towers a phone is connected to and when.

* In urban areas, this data can pinpoint a phone's location to within about 50 meters.
He could have used Signal or something similar to make or receive the call, if it was a call between two accomplices.
 
  • #1,074
Not sure he was on a phone, another poster suggested he was adjusting his face covering.

Jmo
 
  • #1,075
2 1/2 days after the murder we hear he catches cab to bus station an hour after the murder.
Mjmo
This murder was very well planned from start to finish. It seems pretty detailed to be able to accomplish everything that this guy accomplished in mid-town Manhattan and get away with it.

I don't know what this guy does as his day job, but it seems to me that he spent a significant amount of time planning it. I think that at least one other person (one locally and/or one from BT's hometown or someone who knows BT) is involved. I also think that a significant payout was offered for all of this planning and execution.

Because it has been determined that the assassin was in NYC for 10 days, he must have a job where he works remotely. I just can't see someone who has an office job being able to get away with this. When I was working, there was no way that I could take off 10 days in a row! I was in the computer field back in the COBOL/mainframe days.

JMO.
 
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  • #1,076
This is pretty strong, I think they know it’s his.

Backpack found in Central Park believed to belong to suspect, source says​

From CNN's John Miller
NYPD investigators found a backpack in Central Park that they believe belonged to the suspect in the killing of UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson, a law enforcement official told CNN.

Investigators have yet to officially confirm the origin of the bag and are taking it to be forensically tested in a lab in Queens, the source said.

An NYPD spokesperson confirmed to CNN that a backpack was found in the park but said it “still has to be processed.”

I'm holding on to my original prediction that it will be his backpack that brings him down. Hoping it's his and he's finally identified!
 
  • #1,077
It doesn't even take for him to have a social media presence - you'd think a former teacher would recognize him, neighbor, co-worker, fellow gym-goers, clerk at the grocery store, someone he met at a nightclub, employer, mom's friend, etc. But, as far as we know....nothing.

If he's local, I think it's NJ and I think he's a newcomer to USA...and I think he's out of the country by now or possibly hiding out in someone's basement in Newark.

jmo

Remember The Bridge Guy The Delphi Murders not one person thought it was Richard Allan, not even his own wife or close friends and he worked at CVS in the public eye. People might not be paying attention to the media
 
  • #1,078
I think his goal from GW Bridge bus station was to get out of the city as quick as possible. From what I can tell, the bus going south, like to Philadelphia and beyond was not until 1:25 pm. The bus going north to Hartford, Boston was at 10:20 am. Out of those two, no way is he waiting for that Philly one. He would go towards Boston. Other choice would be taking a local NJ bus across the river if that's possible just to get out of the city and take something from there.
Boston....where we shut the entire city down while we hunt criminals. Seems like a bad choice. Those marathon bombing days were crazy!
 
  • #1,079
If it really was an original for ww2 he could have bought it in pieces. New old stock or private owner parts can be found then put together to make the final product. That can be done with banned weapons also, just buy it in pieces then assemble.
It was the updated version. Can still be bought in pieces, but seems less likely. This guy had a ton of money. He possibly shipped it in pieces to avoid detection and collected them here in the US, avoiding detection…
 
  • #1,080
I think his goal from GW Bridge bus station was to get out of the city as quick as possible. From what I can tell, the bus going south, like to Philadelphia and beyond was not until 1:25 pm. The bus going north to Hartford, Boston was at 10:20 am. Out of those two, no way is he waiting for that Philly one. He would go towards Boston. Other choice would be taking a local NJ bus across the river if that's possible just to get out of the city and take something from there.
IMO I would be shocked if he waited for the bus to Philly or Boston, he was probably at the bus station by 8am at the latest — I just don’t see him loitering in the bus station (which IIRC has a police station/booth inside it) for 2+ hours. MOO but I think he got on a bus to NJ and then started navigating to wherever he is now.
 
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