NY - UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson fatally shot in Midtown. #5

[UpdatingHistory]

Definitely agree with this.

I don’t really think that the Monopoly money was meant to be symbolic, to say “you’ve robbed me of X amount of money,” or anything similar.

IMO he just got his jollies from watching the news about the police searching so diligently for that backpack, finding it, lifting it so gingerly with an excavator etc., and he outmaneuvered them just to show he could.

JMO

An FBI Profiler just said similar on CNN -- that the Monopoly money is about "game-playing" with the police.

 

[DancingMuse]

Well those new photos show that he is a very skinny guy. Some of the earlier photos where the top looks bulky really lead me to believe he had many layers of clothing on or possibly a bag under his coat due to just how small his legs are. I can see having that puffy jacket because it can easily hide things, but there is no hiding tiny legs in what looks like skinny jeans or similar pants.

Justtrish,
Yes, definitely, ....So very much agreeing with you.

I have noticed how thin he is since the initial videos were aired.

If he lost another 10 pounds, I would consider him "frail".
(Pure speculation all over this post here. Moo.)

He just looks "bulked up" on top, because he wears big jackets, and/or a bulletproof vest underneath?

He moves quickly.

Those legs are skinny, though, and he walks stooped, a little, with shoulders that are forward which rounds his back slightly. (from the weight of a book bag, or naturally? We don't know yet. )

If he lost any more weight over time, .... Would it start to compromise his strength?

It DOES take strength to shoot a powerful handgun.

Is he thin because he has a lot of nervous energy (so, it is a "natural" metabolic slenderness?), or is he a dieting type of guy, maybe?

Is he very active in some kind of athletics (dancing, working out, lifting, job-related physical labor, etc.) when he's not running around Manhattan being an assassin?

And those skinny jeans are old. So, he's been at this actual weight, for awhile.

And those skinny jeans actually fit a little loose. So, is he losing weight right now ...because he is under stress?

We don't know the answers. But someday we will.

Any thoughts, Sleuthers?

 

[Arkay]

They also may have particular habits regarding diet and the Sabbath

No. A religious Jewish person is not going to eat at either Starbucks nor McDonald’s.

JMO and knowledge of the culture.

 

[krikken]

Sure - most of the world believes that healthcare should be accessible. However, the whole 'murdering someone for ideological reasons' is where the narcissistic piece comes into play. This guy feels like he's judge, jury, and executioner.

"Narcissist" is so overused in our era it has become pretty devalued and vague.

It's possible for someone to be a revolutionary and resort to violence (which I don't find virtuous or righteous) and not be self-absorbed or selfish. No idea what the case was here.

 

[Mackymulty]

If it's a country with an extradition treaty with the US, then they will move on that. If there's no such treaty, then nothing. I don't think he fled the country though.

I’m curious as to why you don’t think he fled the country?

Absolutely makes sense to me and he had plenty of time to fly out before the picture went public the next day.

 

[Warwick7]

In effect, the updated article clarifies that the mayor misspoke and restates that they are searching for him.

Surprise surprise....
Adams isn't all there. I want updates from LE or FBI.

 

[Gemmie]

I don't know, if you blow it up, looks like a beard ...

https://www.fbi.gov/wanted/seeking-info/unknown-suspect---murder-investigation/nycmurder5.jpg/@@images/image/large

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Don't men normally grow the connecting piece between the beard and sideburns as well? Top arrow points to the bottom of the sideburns, bottom arrow to the top of what folks are saying is his beard. But the in-between part is much fainter than the sideburns and "beard". I would think that in-between part would grow at the same speed as the "beard". No?

Google RESULTS for side view of men's beards.

 

[whitelilac]

An FBI Profiler just said similar on CNN -- that the Monopoly money is about "game-playing" with the police.

I would love to be sitting with the profilers and forensic psychologists in this case in particular. The psychology of such a criminal interests me so much.
If only it was a failed attempt though and not such a tragedy.

 

[99cats]

"Narcissist" is so overused in our era it has become pretty devalued and vague.

It's possible for someone to be a revolutionary and resort to violence (which I don't find virtuous or righteous) and not be self-absorbed or selfish. No idea what the case was here.

Possibly an "agree to disagree" situation here. I think any ideological assassination has to have some form of narcissistic thoughts behind it - the murderer feels that their own ideology provides them with the "right" to take the life of another person. Inflated sense of self-importance? Check. Arrogance? Check. Entitlement? Check.

 

[Vegasgrl]

I've never stayed in a hostel and never plan to. I like my privacy. I also like my own bathroom. It begs the question if this guy took a bus to NYC from November 24 to Dec 4 he must have had a shower or a shave during that time. Are showers in a hostel similar to those in the Y or other gyms where it's communal? He has quite dark eyebrows and lashes so I presume when his beard grows, it would also be dark. My husband can have the beginning of a decent beard in 4 days so this guy might be the same. He could have been walking around in different clothes without a mask wearing sunglasses and no one would refer to him based on the current images we have.

The killer stayed in a shared room. Many hostels have private rooms, and even suites. I have stayed in some very impressive rooms with $300+ views in top European destinations for less than $50. Female solo travelers feel much safer in hostels than random hotels or Airbnb stays. Generally. For a multitude of reasons. The hostels of today are not the hostels of the last century.

 

[krikken]

Justtrish,
Yes, definitely, ....So very much agreeing with you.

I have noticed how thin he is since the initial videos were aired.

If he lost another 10 pounds, I would consider him "frail".
(Pure speculation all over this post here. Moo.)

He just looks "bulked up" on top, because he wears big jackets, and/or a bulletproof vest underneath?

He moves quickly.

Those legs are skinny, though, and he walks stooped, a little, with shoulders that are forward which rounds his back slightly. (from the weight of a book bag, or naturally? We don't know yet. )

If he lost any more weight over time, .... Would it start to compromise his strength?

It DOES take strength to shoot a powerful handgun.

Is he thin because he has a lot of nervous energy (so, it is a "natural" metabolic slenderness?), or is he a dieting type of guy, maybe?

Is he very active in some kind of athletics (dancing, working out, lifting, job-related physical labor, etc.) when he's not running around Manhattan being an assassin?

And those skinny jeans are old. So, he's been at this actual weight, for awhile.

And those skinny jeans actually fit a little loose. So, is he losing weight right now ...because he is under stress?

We don't know the answers. But someday we will.

Any thoughts, Sleuthers?

To me he looks healthy, very possibly athletic. He is young and takes care of himself, no visceral fat yet. I think it's entirely possible he has lost weight for this "role" and he usually doesn't look as thin. But it is not an emaciated look.

 

[UpdatingHistory]

Don't men normally grow the connecting piece between the beard and sideburns as well? Top arrow points to the bottom of the sideburns, bottom arrow to the top of what folks are saying is his beard. But the in-between part is much fainter than the sideburns and "beard". I would think that in-between part would grow at the same speed as the "beard". No?

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Google RESULTS for side view of men's beards.

Could the dark part be a 2nd, darker mask, under the top/blue one? It looks like it might be one pulled down. Maybe he was wearing 2 masks, to be on the safe side -- one light & one dark.

 

[DBLG]

Can anyone zoom in enough to determine the brand of black jeans (tapered or skinny jeans?) he is wearing or his black sneakers with white bottoms? I think that will provide some insight to where he is from. Have we received confirmation on the brand of the hoodie utility jacket with front pockets that he is wearing in the Hostel photo? The black puffer jacket in the other photos does not seem to have a logo which I think is odd. Usually it is fairly easy to identify a NorthFace, Marmot, Nike, Patagonia. He is slim and well groomed. European? I would be really interested to know what type of coffee drink he ordered at Starbucks. It also makes me think he wanted his coffee prepared a certain way (European) and that's why he went into Starbucks instead of a local deli where they would likely not prepare a 2 shots espresso. I could be reaching but he looks European to me (probably very well versed in navigating cities and maps, ebikes/scooters) ALSO..... very comfortable staying in Hostel. I'm not saying American men are not slim and well groomed, don't stay in Hostels and order specialty coffee drinks but this guy is giving me European vibes. ALL JMO

 

[x_files]

Exactly what kind of claim being denied do you think causes a 77 year old to die? Not being snarky, but I am generally curious what all these claims are that cost death? In my personal network, I could count at least eight cancers, four open heart surgeries, two dialysis patients, several congenital defect situations, three neonatal stays and many more things and have never heard one claimed denied. Not saying it doesn’t happen obviously. Oh and many have uhc. Again Im not doubting and obviously all it takes is one but I’m also wondering are these proof or just how the family feels that something might have worked?

The internet is filled with stories of their family members, babies being denied life-saving care, relying on Accounts, and others going into debt and losing everything and being forced to live in their car or on the streets. I'm lucky this has not happened to me.
Even stories in the MSM news...for example:

My Daughter Desperately Needs Brain Surgery. Our Insurance Company's Response Has Been Shocking.

"The insurance company has an army of people who are very concerned about paperwork and precise wording ... My kindness and patience has shifted to fury."

www.huffpost.com

 

[Let’s Bagel]

Exactly what kind of claim being denied do you think causes a 77 year old to die? Not being snarky, but I am generally curious what all these claims are that cost death? In my personal network, I could count at least eight cancers, four open heart surgeries, two dialysis patients, several congenital defect situations, three neonatal stays and many more things and have never heard one claimed denied. Not saying it doesn’t happen obviously. Oh and many have uhc. Again Im not doubting and obviously all it takes is one but I’m also wondering are these proof or just how the family feels that something might have worked?

Medical necessity is not at the top of the list of reasons for claim denials. Improper/incorrect documentation, incorrect coding and pre-authorization errors make up the majority of denials. I've been on the provider side of healthcare in Finance for many years now, and while it is accurate that UHC aggressively denies claims, most are for administrative reasons.

 

[annpats]

NYPD have offered a $10,000 reward and the FBI have offered a $50,000 reward.

Why do you think United Healthcare haven't offered any money as a reward, despite being a multi-billion dollar company?

 

[stanerd]

First time posting. Interesting case. I think it's a foreigner who flew in from another country to maybe Atlanta or D.C., somewhere along the bus route, and was a hired hitman. The words on the shell casings and the monopoly money were probably meant to be a diversion. What makes me think he's foreign is that he didn't seem to care about fingerprints or leaving DNA evidence. If he was just going back to his home country afterwards, why would he care? He could be from Iran or some other country that isn't exactly on friendly terms with the U.S. If that's the case, he wouldn't be worried about being sent back to the U.S. to face justice.

 

[acutename]

Justtrish,
Yes, definitely, ....So very much agreeing with you.

I have noticed how thin he is since the initial videos were aired.

If he lost another 10 pounds, I would consider him "frail".
(Pure speculation all over this post here. Moo.)

He just looks "bulked up" on top, because he wears big jackets, and/or a bulletproof vest underneath?

He moves quickly.

Those legs are skinny, though, and he walks stooped, a little, with shoulders that are forward which rounds his back slightly. (from the weight of a book bag, or naturally? We don't know yet. )

If he lost any more weight over time, .... Would it start to compromise his strength?

It DOES take strength to shoot a powerful handgun.

Is he thin because he has a lot of nervous energy (so, it is a "natural" metabolic slenderness?), or is he a dieting type of guy, maybe?

Is he very active in some kind of athletics (dancing, working out, lifting, job-related physical labor, etc.) when he's not running around Manhattan being an assassin?

And those skinny jeans are old. So, he's been at this actual weight, for awhile.

And those skinny jeans actually fit a little loose. So, is he losing weight right now ...because he is under stress?

We don't know the answers. But someday we will.

Any thoughts, Sleuthers?

I do not think he has eaten well or with any relaxation for the past 10 days.... and not sure if hatching his plan was consuming him before this. IMO

 

[annpats]

How do they know he arrived 10 days earlier?

Because NYPD know which hostel he stayed at, and know which day he checked in.....CCTV has it.

He checked in 10 days before the shooting.

 

[vls12345]

5 days after UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson's death, what has been found?

Here's where the investigation into the murder of UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson sits five days after his death.

www.11alive.com