NY - UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson fatally shot in Midtown. #8 *Arrest*

[tlcya]

Martin said Mangione took a basic surf lesson that ended up leaving him in bed for about and week and that “it was really traumatic and difficult.”

Martin also said Mangione had surgery earlier this year that left him with screws in his body.

“He sent me the X-rays,” Martin said. “It looked heinous, with just giant screws going into his spine. After that, he called me once, I didn’t pick up.”
https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/br...thcare-death-investigation-12-9-24/index.html

 

[TroyinTX]

I can't be the only one who finds it depraved and sickening that people are actually celebrating and now lusting after this coward who executed a father by shooting him in the back? There's a whole bunch of people leaving negative reviews for the McDonalds and trying to dox the employee who called the police. Absolutely sick behavior and just depressing.

 

[armchairagatha]

You have a fairly large, accomplished family. You don't show up for Thanksgiving and have been out of touch for awhile. Dozens of photos of a suspect are all over the news who looks *just like* your son, brother, cousin, etc. This is just baffling to me and I hope we learn later that someone in his family did contact LE and they were looking into it.

To be fair, the photos of the suspect didn’t look “just like” him. There was a passing resemblance that his parents maybe agonized over “could it be him”? But they didn’t know it definitively. I really think if he had ditched his mask and black hoodie in McDonald’s he would have gone unrecognized. The person who turned him in only did so because of the mask and hoodie,

 

[FansBlowing]

Anybody else think that this bright young man, valedictorian, was recruited right out of college? I'm thinking CIA.

 

[HoustonGuy]

This is the last paragraph posted from his alleged manifesto.

In my opinion, I am not fooled by his words, I dont believe he did this for the tens of millions of other Americans, he did it for himself. Is he an attention seeker?

It doesnt matter my thoughts and opinions, murder is a crime in America. Keep Americans safe. bbm




@alcaprari23

A manifesto found online, with the subtitle, "Luigi Mangione's last words", mentions UnitedHealthcare 7 times, details his mother's physical ailments as well as his own. To be clear, this is not confirmed to be the manifesto found on him today at McDonald's. Here are excerpts:

...



"That’s where UnitedHealthcare went wrong. They violated their contract with my mother, with me, and tens of millions of other Americans. This threat to my own health, my family’s health, and the health of our country’s people requires me to respond with an act of war."


9:17 PM · Dec 9, 2024

https://twitter.com/x/status/1866306105900736654

I do not believe that this has been confirmed as actually being the manifesto.

 

[Tippy Lynn]

I’m curious to find out what company his insurance was through and when he turned 26. Dependents are covered until the age of 26. I know his family has money and could likely pay for an individual plan for LM, but did they? Also, LM could have refused to let them pay. There are many possibilities that I’m curious about.

 

[Eaglette]

One things for sure:

Luigi didn't think this through very well...

If he's had back pain - try the next 20 years on a rubber mattress in an Orange Jumpsuit !!

 

[jawndough]

I can't be the only one who finds it depraved and sickening that people are actually celebrating and now lusting after this coward who executed a father by shooting him in the back? There's a whole bunch of people leaving negative reviews for the McDonalds and trying to dox the employee who called the police. Absolutely sick behavior and just depressing.

I feel the same way. Listen, people have every right to be upset with our healthcare system… but the murder of a human being that was a father, brother, son etc. is nothing to be celebrated. Disgusting.

 

[Tiff23fr]

“No one seems to quite understand the Breloom reference at this point“

I know its the Pokémon Character, but what a rabbit hole…

'Among Us' Explained. What To Know About The Game Played By Luigi Mangione, Alleged CEO Shooter

Luigi Mangione played Among Us with his friends, a game that involves "assassins" which has led to a new media narrative.

www.forbes.com

 

[thefragile7393]

Anybody else think that this bright young man, valedictorian, was recruited right out of college? I'm thinking CIA.

No

 

[snarast]

I’m curious to find out what company his insurance was through and when he turned 26. Dependents are covered until the age of 26. I know his family has money and could likely pay for an individual plan for LM, but did they? Also, LM could have refused to let them pay. There are many possibilities that I’m curious about.

I’m curious about how a coddled, patrician, ”country club owning family” young hacker with two Ivy league degrees decides to blame anyone but himself for his failures.

What must be very brief failures considering his astonishing accomplishments before last year.

It makes no sense. But I guess it could be a very confusing time to find yourself off of the golden chariot you took for granted.

 

[Marantz4250b]

But that's not really the nature of a lot of back pain. There are many of us who can, especially at times, do things like walk, climb stairs, pedal a bike, and even run, at times, or if we really have to, oftentimes, though, through wincing pain.
That doesn't mean that daily life, and other activites, aren't wholly impacted, and that there isn't daily pain.

Oh, don't get me wrong, I have an arthritic condition which I can assure you is enormously painful and debilitating when it flares up. It's well controlled with tablets but when I don't have them it's truly awful.

Point I'm making here is that it's not actually debilitating in the true sense of the word; it doesn't affect me so much that my life is hugely curtailed by it because I have medication for it. If he actually has this back pain then it seems to be the same for him. It's not correct for the headline on the article to say he had a "debilitating" condition because he clearly didn't - it may be debilitating sometimes, or may have been previously, but it clearly wasn't that day and presumably the previous several days or weeks given how much travelling and sitting on busses and flights he'd obviously done.

Tbh, I think I'm taking the route that this wasn't anything to do with his medical issues (whatever they may be) but rather a more ideological statement he was attempting to make.

And, speaking from experience, if I had a condition involving debilitating pain the absolute very last place I'd choose to stay is a hostel sleeping with strange men. I'd also be in no fit state to flirt with the desk girl either.

 

[Sunshynn]

I can't be the only one who finds it depraved and sickening that people are actually celebrating and now lusting after this coward who executed a father by shooting him in the back? There's a whole bunch of people leaving negative reviews for the McDonalds and trying to dox the employee who called the police. Absolutely sick behavior and just depressing.

I agree with this whole heartedly.
I am seeing some on social media literally calling for the same fate to the McDonald's employee and elderly patron as BT. Seriously!
I understand the outrage and pain that people are in over healthcare and the anger at insurance companies.
However, I can not separate the fact the BT was a human who had a family outside of the his job and that vigilante justice is such a slippery slope to stand on.
MOO.

 

[m00c0w]

Martin said Mangione took a basic surf lesson that ended up leaving him in bed for about and week and that “it was really traumatic and difficult.”

Martin also said Mangione had surgery earlier this year that left him with screws in his body.

“He sent me the X-rays,” Martin said. “It looked heinous, with just giant screws going into his spine. After that, he called me once, I didn’t pick up.”
https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/br...thcare-death-investigation-12-9-24/index.html

I have had a chronic lower back injury for a little over a decade now, complete with nerve pain. While I can sort of empathize with his situation, I can’t say I’ve ever felt compelled to kill anyone as a result of my injuries. I can also understand how he’s able to move so well with his injuries - you probably wouldn’t be able to tell I had such an injury most of the time.

This seems to me like a case of a privileged kid that has no coping skills and his world was absolutely rocked when faced with significant challenges for the first time. Maybe I’m wrong, but that’s the impression I am left with so far.

JMO

 

[maamager]

Hidden True Crime did an incredible analysis on this case thus far.

 

[armchairagatha]

Anybody else think that this bright young man, valedictorian, was recruited right out of college? I'm thinking CIA.

Nah, if it was the CIA they would have protected him after so he would be useful for future work. This guy did this alone which is why he was caught.

 

[LittleSeaTree]

Fortunately for them, it’s not like people check the reviews before going to McDonald’s.

It’s not like it’s an independent restaurant.

The only time I approve is when the business does something insane, like that auto body shop that paid a former employee his last paycheck in 90k plus oil covered pennies.

True, not exactly a need to check reviews before one might head there! I’m so naive, here I was thinking that McDonald’s might even have a little boost in sales….personally, I can’t stop thinking about a Quarter Pounder the last 2 days

 

[x_files]

You have a fairly large, accomplished family. You don't show up for Thanksgiving and have been out of touch for awhile. Dozens of photos of a suspect are all over the news who looks *just like* your son, brother, cousin, etc. This is just baffling to me and I hope we learn later that someone in his family did contact LE and they were looking into it.

This confounds me!
Did his entire family NOT watch the news the past week or do the photos of FBI's Most Wanted not look like him to them?

 

[chrism23]

The murder of business executives has been around before. The Baader-Mienoff gang-the Red Army Faction killed a number of businessmen in the 70's. They would knock on the door and shoot the businessman in the face. The Red Brigades in Italy kidnapped then killed a former Prime Minister. The Weather Underground here discussed corporate killings but never acted. They did succeed in blowing themselves up. And then there was the Unabomber.

I remain astonished that such killings don't happen more often, not counting someone who goes off on the job and kills his fellow workers. This is about dispassionate, calculated political acts. I think I can safely say we are going to see many more of these as this country is torn apart by special interests.

 

[fridaybaker]

Oh, don't get me wrong, I have an arthritic condition which I can assure you is enormously painful and debilitating when it flares up. It's well controlled with tablets but when I don't have them it's truly awful.

Point I'm making here is that it's not actually debilitating in the true sense of the word; it doesn't affect me so much that my life is hugely curtailed by it because I have medication for it. If he actually has this back pain then it seems to be the same for him. It's not correct for the headline on the article to say he had a "debilitating" condition because he clearly didn't - it may be debilitating sometimes, or may have been previously, but it clearly wasn't that day and presumably the previous several days or weeks given how much travelling and sitting on busses and flights he'd obviously done.

Tbh, I think I'm taking the route that this wasn't anything to do with his medical issues (whatever they may be) but rather a more ideological statement he was attempting to make.

I agree that this had a lot to do with a larger issue than his own medical issues.

As far as "debilitating", though, I disagree. Debilitating is much more than a physical inability to do certain tasks. Debilitating can encompass the effects of chronic pain psychologically as well. And, if it did, indeed, prohibit him from having sex, I'd consider that to be incredibly debilitating to a 26 year old.

We can have different takes on things, though. Makes the world go 'round.