NY - UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson fatally shot in Midtown. #8 *Arrest*

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Further to my post on page 1 of the thread I think now that shooting BT in the leg first then the back was not a case of shooting badly, LM will have had agonising pain in his leg from his back damage so wanted BT to feel terrible pain in his leg and back before he died
 
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LIVE: Suspected UnitedHealth CEO shooter Luigi Mangione appears for extradition hearing in Pennsylvania

Geez that they already getting yelled at for not moving so a van could park. The van didn't even have him in it. Then one of the reporters said something like they are making it hard or something like that. Um no, it's LE's job to get prisoners to court and back safely. Seems the reporters could just move back so the van can park.
 
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I understand the average american not being able to afford healthcare. It's a travesty.
What I can't understand is the fact that he comes from an VERY wealthy family who most likely would be able to pay for the surgery for their son out of pocket if need be. This is not your average American family....IMO
That's why, like it or not, it will reverberate for a long time. HE didn't need to do it.

I remember during the vietnam war protests it wasn't little Joey Schmoe from the hood getting the headlines, getting arrested. It was big namers whose lives had been defined by comfort, money, great educational opportunities.
 
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UnitedHealth Group has lost $45 billion in value since CEO killing

UnitedHealth Group’s market value has tumbled by about $45 billion since the fatal shooting last week of the CEO of its insurance unit.

The killing of Brian Thompson, the CEO of UnitedHealthcare, unleashed a flood of negative sentiment about the insurance industry and drew scrutiny to the insurance arm itself.

UnitedHealth Group, the parent company and insurance behemoth, has seen its share price drop by 8% since the closing bell on December 3, the last day of trading prior to Thompson’s shocking death in Midtown Manhattan.

The stock dropped by 10% last week, its steepest weekly percentage drop since March 2020 during the onset of the pandemic.
 
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Further to my post on page 1 of the thread I think now that shooting BT in the leg first then the back was not a case of shooting badly, LM will have had agonising pain in his leg from his back damage so wanted BT to feel terrible pain in his leg and back before he died
I don' t think that is the case at all. I think he was using a 3d printed gun and they are very unreliable and not accurate.
 
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I feel that his abrupt choice to self-isolate (so unusual that his Mom reported him missing a month ago), particularly when socialization was a large component of his life before, would itself be indicative of some kind of mental issue, be it organic (schizophrenia, brain tumor, etc) or self-induced (hallucinogenics, etc). I feel like we would be getting more of the typical 'he was an odd duck but a good dude otherwise' stories from his friends and family had this type of behavior been present in some form or fashion prior to something happening to him.

I am not advocating or condoning a political view one way or the other here, but to your point I suppose something as simple as an election result could trigger an otherwise normal person to lose most contact with reality, if briefly. And as staunch as he was in his views, and with his views seemingly not aligned with the incoming administration, I suppose something like that could have even set him off on a path like this. He disappeared around the same time as the election (if we assume his mother's missing person's report as the 'when' it began unraveling for him).

JMO.
You may be right. I would add that it need not simply be a mental issue, it could be an emotional one - increasing and severe disappointment that adult life is not all it was promised to be. Perhaps his job is mundane and he has to do meaningless tasks and sometimes answer to someone dumber or less sophisticated than he believed himself to be. His "gifts" seem unacknowledged and unrecognized. His body suffers injuries that he doesn't bounce back from, even after surgery. He doesn't get the girls he believes himself worthy of. His friends seem to be marrying off, starting families, and buying first homes and he doesn't even have a girlfriend.

If, before he launched into life, he was protected from disappointments - lessons that life presents challenges that one has to work and develop imagination to overcome and they often pick us rather than us picking them, sometimes life isn't fair, he isn't the "genius-prince the world is waiting for" but is instead just one more human being trying to make a go of it, there will always be greater and lesser persons than himself, failure is a teacher - and the resilience and perspective that one develops from encountering these disappointments and their lessons in humility throughout childhood and early adulthood, then when faced with such in rapid succession, each feels enormous and soul crushing. And combined, they feel like a massive betrayal.

Not offering excuses. He chose evil. And that is no one's fault but his own.
 
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On the contrary, serious pain registers on a person's face and in how they hold their body.
Not true at all. Especially once one has learned to live with it, pain meds, etc.
 
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Brother of 'Unabomber' Ted Kaczynski: It's a 'terrible mistake' if Luigi Mangione was influenced by him

"It really gives me a great deal of personal pain to think my brother's actions have in any way contributed to influencing a man like this to kill an innocent human being," he said.
The brother of Ted Kaczynski, the domestic terrorist known as the "Unabomber," said Tuesday that he hopes the man accused in the murder of UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson didn't view his brother as a "key model" and is distressed that his brother's actions decades ago may motivate violence today.
 
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Law enforcement continues to seek the public’s help in gathering information on Luigi Mangione’s travel and recent whereabouts in Pennsylvania. We ask anyone with information to call 1-800-4PA-TIPS or submit a tip online at p3tips.com/tipform.aspx?I….

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Well if the bottom photo was taken at McDs would it be possible for someone to make it any more obvious they had good reason to hide their face? I very much doubt he was reported due to someone recognizing him.

What was the temp there that day, anybody know? He looks like he just came in from dogsledding in the Yukon.
 
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I don' t think that is the case at all. I think he was using a 3d printed gun and they are very unreliable and not accurate.
I thought I read somewhere in the previous thread that he used a different gun to murder BT and that this gun is not the murder weapon
 
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Brother of 'Unabomber' Ted Kaczynski: It's a 'terrible mistake' if Luigi Mangione was influenced by him

"It really gives me a great deal of personal pain to think my brother's actions have in any way contributed to influencing a man like this to kill an innocent human being," he said.
The brother of Ted Kaczynski, the domestic terrorist known as the "Unabomber," said Tuesday that he hopes the man accused in the murder of UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson didn't view his brother as a "key model" and is distressed that his brother's actions decades ago may motivate violence today.
A decent guy, who has suffered a lot from his brother's actions. I feel sympathy for the sister and other family members of LM. By all accounts they are decent and contributing members of society and had no idea that their son had become an anarchist who decided to take his grievances into his own hands.
 
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He just yelled something, I missed some of it but caught this "....an insult to the American people...experience..."

ETA - I believe he said “This is extremely unjust. This is an insult to the intelligence of the American people!”
Now I want to know what he is considering "unjust", is it his arrest for assassinating Brian Thompson? What an ego.
starts at 39:40 in
 
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Wow! Did you guys see that on Reuters Live a few seconds ago? The police delivered him to court just now and he turned and yelled something loudly, sort of pushing away from officers, bellowing something about "injustice in the system and this being an insult to the intelligence of the American People."
 
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I thought I read somewhere in the previous thread that he used a different gun to murder BT and that this gun is not the murder weapon
Look at the pictures when he shot it. No one in law enforcement was able to ID the gun from the pictures. There is a reason why.
 
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