NY - UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson fatally shot in Midtown. #8 *Arrest*

[Parsnip]

Ime, fighting extradition is counterproductive. More or less, all that has to be proven is that the defendant is the actual person for whom there is a warrant in another state. Any time he spends in PA will not apply to time served in any sentence he may receive in NY. Time served credit would only apply to the PA charges.

I guess this is going to be a very long, litigious pre-trial process before he actually sees a trial in NY.

 

[ilovewings]

Good grief people suck.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/google-pulls-mcdonalds-negative-reviews-over-arrest-unitedhealth-murder-2024-12-10/

This is a different world than the one I grew up in- in so many ways--- It is hard to believe actually----but it is reality so I guess we better get used to it. When I first went on line after the murder I was stunned at how many people applauded the killer- it is ugly

 

[Warwick7]

Well, now that you mention that, Sandy Hook with many little children killed in cold blood by yet another mentally-ill young man with a gun didn't change gun culture in this nation.

jmo

Nothing is going to change in the abuse in the gun culture.
Nothing is going to change in the abuse in the medical insurance sector.

 

[TTF14]

Ime, fighting extradition is counterproductive. More or less, all that has to be proven is that the defendant is the actual person for whom there is a warrant in another state. Any time he spends in PA will not apply to time served in any sentence he may receive in NY. Time served credit would only apply to the PA charges.

I guess this is going to be a very long, litigious pre-trial process before he actually sees a trial in NY.

Is it just a delay tactic or is there some other reason he wouldn't want to be extradited to New York?

 

[StarryStarryNight]

His attorney will definitely consider that during voir dire!

And so will the prosecution.

 

[Kapua]

It will be an interesting voir dire, for sure!

Defense atty: Please raise your juror number if you or anyone close to you has ever been frustrated with a health insurance company.

Edit for grammar

Once, I was selected for jury duty in San Jose, CA, heart of the Silicon Valley. It was a civil trial between an electronics company and a real estate company. It took 2 1/2 days to select the jury, because at first, the attorneys were dismissing everyone who worked in electronics or real estate. LOL. So many of us worked in electronics! I can't imagine how long it will take to select a jury if the attorneys use frustration with a health insurance company for their voir dire!

 

[BUF]

When asked if Mangione’s family retained him, Dickey said, “I’m not going to get into that.”

Someone will eventually find out

 

[MassGuy]

Is it just a delay tactic or is there some other reason he wouldn't want to be extradited to New York?

There's a delay tactic in play, but he would obviously prefer to be closer to his family in Pennsylvania than further away in New York.

 

[Parsnip]

I'm curious about bias in jury selection. If such a significant portion of the public has had bad experiences with health insurance, can they really eliminate all such potential jurors? Would excluding them go against selecting a broad spectrum of the population? I know nothing of this, but it seems like it could be a sticky wicket.

The judge will instruct the jury as to the law and inquire as to whether they can put aside personal experience and apply the law as directed, ime. Jurors are sworn, and if they are found to be deceitful, they can be excused or even found in contempt.

 

[BUF]

In an interview one of the McDonald's customers who saw him stated that he had been in the area for 2 or more days. So, if true, I'm guessing the bus was long gone.

So where was he staying?

 

[moonriverfarm]

The X-ray image is from a profile photo he had pinned to one of his accounts. The photo with officer holding his neck is a still image pulled from today's Reuters video, as he entered the courthouse, shouting angrily.

His back issues were low in his back, not in his neck, according to info posted.

 

[Herat]

Pretty much every single person

That is no excuse for a cold-blooded murder.

Life is hard. Sometimes things happen that you feel are unfair. This happens to everyone.

 

[Baby baby Jane]

I'm curious about bias in jury selection. If such a significant portion of the public has had bad experiences with health insurance, can they really eliminate all such potential jurors? Would excluding them go against selecting a broad spectrum of the population? I know nothing of this, but it seems like it could be a sticky wicket.

Thinking it thru, if he doesn’t “take the stand” then there will not be much detail about his views. The prosecution will be he was here, there, dna and shot & killed.

If he does take the stand, then questioning him about his motive isn’t very productive because under the law, it’s still murder. There no threat, etc.
Think of the questions might be posed to elicit sympathy and a not guilty. There’s no logic. Jury needs a story - I killed him because Medical Insurance denies claims and people suffer?

Will jurors say, hell My claim was denied ! Let this killer go free.

 

[Warwick7]

"...healthcare is a business, not a right, and human lives are expendable in the interest of ensuring that obscene wealth remains concentrated in the hands of an elite minority. Americans spend far more money per capita on healthcare than their counterparts in other developed nations – but it’s not like you get what you pay for. Often, the US healthcare experience consists of jumping through hellish bureaucratic hoops, spending a good portion of your life on hold on the telephone, and battling insurance claims denials – if you have the energy and time to do so."

"..the man was in fact emblematic of the lethal inequality that underpins US corporatocracy, where the health insurance racket does its part to keep people so sick and debt-ridden that they can’t pose a challenge to the system. And that, at the end of the day, is why the gunman is being “venerated as something approaching a folk hero”.

Source: No surprise Americans are ‘rooting for’ the UnitedHealthcare CEO’s killer

Well, he NAILED this right.

As I said this is going to go BIG as this trial goes on.

 

[Parsnip]

Is it just a delay tactic or is there some other reason he wouldn't want to be extradited to New York?

Idk, and IANAL. I’m sure some tactic is at play. All proceedings are part of the record, so if the accused acts like a crazy person, I suppose that would facilitate a certain kind of defense or be suggestive of certain mitigating factors at any future sentencing. Moo.

 

[Sincerely]

Starting to look like a manic episode

Exactly what I’ve been thinking.

 

[Warwick7]

Unfortunately, millions of people just learned that you can make your own lethal weapon with a 3D printer! (I know I did!)



Of course. Is there any evidence this happened with/to Luigi, though?

We are about 6-7 days into this god awful circumstance. In moo we have barely got started on evidence.

 

[Parsnip]

I'm curious about bias in jury selection. If such a significant portion of the public has had bad experiences with health insurance, can they really eliminate all such potential jurors? Would excluding them go against selecting a broad spectrum of the population? I know nothing of this, but it seems like it could be a sticky wicket.

His attorney will definitely want those folks on the jury. Moo.

 

[Inthedetails]

In an interview one of the McDonald's customers who saw him stated that he had been in the area for 2 or more days. So, if true, I'm guessing the bus was long gone.

Interesting! I had been assuming it was a bus stop and he was still traveling on the bus.

jmo

 

[BUF]

Fighting extradition actually gives NY more time to build their case