NY - UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson fatally shot in Midtown. #9 *Arrest*

[Sakura2Sophia4Lucia]

OneLove said: 100% agreed on not yet knowing what the trigger was. With what we know to date so far (which is incomplete with huge vacant gaps), I would lean toward a probability of both physical & mental disease coupled with an isolation that allowed the extent of his downward spiral to be unnoticed and unchecked. I'm guessing pain, deep disappointment with his physical deterioration, a long simmering concern with social injustices, perhaps a bit of narcissistic personality syndrome, automatic funding that simply shows up in his financial accounts with no accountability, no continuity of close relationships, worsening neural Lyme Disease (which can only be diagnosed by examining spinal fluid via spinal tap which is very rarely done and almost certainly would be denied coverage by health insurance & therefore providers also), glutamate toxicity from extreme high glutamate both naturally occurring & through additives in packaged foods and "fast" foods, mushrooms being one of the highest glutamate foods on earth, and fundamental brain changes from hallucinogenics and possibly other drugs commonly used to self medicate and championed by some high profile billionaire bros & politicos, and voilà, we have the most vicious perfect storm of all time. His mitigating factors far far outweigh the "twinkie" guy who killed Harvey Milk in San Francisco decades ago.

Very insightfully said. Agree that LM likely suffered from physical diseases related to his back and Lyme disease.

I wonder this too but we have a similar clause for drug use and other less desirable acts in our small trust for our son. Definitely not 10s of millions like this family but didn’t want to fuel unsavory activities with our money.

Thank you, eash. Very helpful to know that these type of clauses are used.

 

[jjenny]

Which reminds me, I just saw that people are wondering if and when the McDonald's employee who turned him in will get the reward money. The article I saw said that reward money is usually not paid until and unless there's a conviction, so it might be a while.

It depends on the conditions of the reward. If reward is given for information leading to an arrest, then the employee would presumably be given it without waiting for a trial.

 

[Luna20]

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Correct - on simply a location/some jobs were omitted

IF LM parted ways with TrueCar under the circumstances of a reorganization this could have been a difficult reality for him to process:

-Insurance seemed to be a significant need for him
-He may have to give up his HI remote beach working lifestyle and transition to a job in a physical building like many went back to post Covid

Did he Possibly intend to “fake” his disappearance to his family in order to further his new underground role playing fantasy as an Assassin / Robin Hood.
To use his words: “Whacking” CEO’s at their “Bean Counting Conferences” while globe hopping and setting up residence in HI.
I mean he had plenty of fake ID’s it seemed.

Any info on how he knew BT would be there at that moment to go after him?

 

[waldojabba]

Someone (I can’t recall who) on WS used to always say “I’ll eat my hat if xzy happens.” That’s kind of how I feel about it. I tend to think they’ll hope for hung jury or jury nullification. But like massguy said earlier, it’s a slam dunk case. MOO

it totally is a slam dunk case IMO.
Right now my sense is that it will all depend upon how his relationship evolves with his family and what that shapes up to look like. Why was he estranged from family/if indeed he was.
If that messy family stuff all gets repaired and this guy can get somewhat stabilized mentally and emotionally - I really see a plea here.
My sense is this is a family who values their privacy.
Grandma knew whatsup lol.
We all have our skeletons.
Just IMO

 

[Luna20]

OneLove said: 100% agreed on not yet knowing what the trigger was. With what we know to date so far (which is incomplete with huge vacant gaps), I would lean toward a probability of both physical & mental disease coupled with an isolation that allowed the extent of his downward spiral to be unnoticed and unchecked. I'm guessing pain, deep disappointment with his physical deterioration, a long simmering concern with social injustices, perhaps a bit of narcissistic personality syndrome, automatic funding that simply shows up in his financial accounts with no accountability, no continuity of close relationships, worsening neural Lyme Disease (which can only be diagnosed by examining spinal fluid via spinal tap which is very rarely done and almost certainly would be denied coverage by health insurance & therefore providers also), glutamate toxicity from extreme high glutamate both naturally occurring & through additives in packaged foods and "fast" foods, mushrooms being one of the highest glutamate foods on earth, and fundamental brain changes from hallucinogenics and possibly other drugs commonly used to self medicate and championed by some high profile billionaire bros & politicos, and voilà, we have the most vicious perfect storm of all time. His mitigating factors far far outweigh the "twinkie" guy who killed Harvey Milk in San Francisco decades ago.

Very insightfully said. Agree that LM likely suffered from physical diseases related to his back and Lyme disease.

Thank you, eash. Very helpful to know that these type of clauses are used.

He does have Lyme disease?

 

[Sakura2Sophia4Lucia]

NuttMegg said:
I haven't yet seen a bonafide link that says "sexual intercourse" in the context of what he could/couldn't do.

I have not seen anything about a truly close personal relationship with anyone.

NYT reported that LM had told Mr. Martin that he had no relationships because “he knew that dating and being physically intimate with his back condition wasn’t possible.”'

Here's the report found within the article:

“His spine was kind of misaligned,” said R.J. Martin, who had founded the co-living space and grew to be friends with Mr. Mangione. “He said his lower vertebrae were almost like a half-inch off, and I think it pinched a nerve. Sometimes he’d be doing well and other times not.” In July 2023, Mr. Mangione wrote in a Reddit post that he had also slipped on a piece of paper, which caused more problems.

It hurt to sit down, he reported, and his leg muscles were twitching. He felt tingling and numbness in his groin.

Mr. Martin said that Mr. Mangione told him that he had no relationships because “he knew that dating and being physically intimate with his back condition wasn’t possible.”'

Months Before C.E.O.’s Killing, the Suspect Went Silent. Where Was He?

New details are emerging about Luigi Mangione’s growing impatience with “a capitalist society” and his search for refuge in the mountains of Japan.

www.nytimes.com

 

[Friday Fan]

San Francisco police recognized the alleged killer of UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson in midtown Manhattan as possibly being Luigi Mangione four days before the suspect’s high-profile arrest and contacted the FBI, two sources familiar with the matter told the Chronicle

However, the two sources, who spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to speak, said that an officer in SFPD’s Special Victims Unit recognized Mangione as the suspect on Dec. 5 — apparently after looking at the same surveillance images, which were the only ones released after the shooting that showed Mangione’s face.

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https://www.sfchronicle.com/crime/article/luigi-mangione-sfpd-identification-19976578.php

Article is totally paywalled and I can't find any other references.

I guess. stay tuned tomorrow....

 

[10ofRods]

I wonder this too but we have a similar clause for drug use and other less desirable acts in our small trust for our son. Definitely not 10s of millions like this family but didn’t want to fuel unsavory activities with our money.

Do you have a source for LM's parents having 10's of millions? I keep hearing that they are rich, but I'd like to see the MSM source.

 

[sds71]

Article is totally paywalled and I can't find any other references.

I guess. stay tuned tomorrow....

Luigi Mangione was ID’d by San Francisco cops days before alleged UnitedHealthcare CEO killer was arrested: report

Mangione’s face was known to cops in California because he’d been reported missing by his family just weeks earlier on Nov. 18, the sources added.

nypost.com

 

[Sakura2Sophia4Lucia]

does anyone think this was an unusual job for him? I guess if he got a good offer coming out of school- programming is programming and data is data, but I do not see any interest in cars from him- he does not seem to have a car (?) or drive one and it just does seems like something he would be bored with in about a week. IMO

As per below link to an article in the NYT: "He quit his job in early 2023, telling a friend that while it paid well, it was “mind-numbingly boring.” He said he wanted to spend more time doing yoga and reading."

Months Before C.E.O.’s Killing, the Suspect Went Silent. Where Was He?

New details are emerging about Luigi Mangione’s growing impatience with “a capitalist society” and his search for refuge in the mountains of Japan.

www.nytimes.com

 

[FoxxTraxx]

As others have mentioned, LM seems not to have had any close long-term relationships. No mention of music he liked, movies/TV shows he ever watched, no hobbies - besides reading and traveling. Did he ever go to concerts or other events? Perhaps he just chose never to share that information on-line, but I keep wondering what he did with all his time.

 

[fred&edna]

There are many reasons US citizens have a lower life expectancy than other countries... healthcare may be one of those but that is NOT the only reason. And, unlikely the primary reason.

Have we seen LM's real words regarding UHC causing people to suffer and die sooner because of refusal of claims? Why didn't he give statistics... he was intelligent enough to do so, right? Did his possible mental break make him incapable of doing so? That possible mental break didn't make him incapable of murder... far from it... he was quite effective at planning, stalking, etc to kill. It might just be possible he's actually Robin Hoodwink.

jmo

 

[Sakura2Sophia4Lucia]

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NYT discussed LM's Lyme Disease in an article that I've linked below. <modsnip: quoting paywalled article>

Months Before C.E.O.’s Killing, the Suspect Went Silent. Where Was He?

New details are emerging about Luigi Mangione’s growing impatience with “a capitalist society” and his search for refuge in the mountains of Japan.

www.nytimes.com

 

[OneLove]

As others have mentioned, LM seems not to have had any close long-term relationships. No mention of music he liked, movies/TV shows he ever watched, no hobbies - besides reading and traveling. Did he ever go to concerts or other events? Perhaps he just chose never to share that information on-line, but I keep wondering what he did with all his time.

Writes. And reads. He writes voraciously and reads voraciously. His mind is a vacuum cleaner and he churns up every word he reads or hears and spits it back out all shiny, new, and fascinating. He writes well. He synthesizes new information, engineers new concepts, creates worlds and worlds within his own mind and writes them very descriptively. Its my guess that he experiences very high glutamate overloads in his central nervous system as a result of his very active mind and likely gets stuck in ruminating thoughts. Mindful meditation would probably be very restorative and balancing for him.

 

[Friday Fan]

Writes. And reads. He writes voraciously and reads voraciously. His mind is a vacuum cleaner and he churns up every word he reads or hears and spits it back out all shiny, new, and fascinating. He writes well. He synthesizes new information, engineers new concepts, creates worlds and worlds within his own mind and writes them very descriptively. Its my guess that he experiences very high glutamate overloads in his central nervous system as a result of his very active mind and likely gets stuck in ruminating thoughts. Mindful meditation would probably be very restorative and balancing for him.

He does not appear to be a voracious writer to me. At least based on his manifesto. It's concise.

 

[Kapua]

Apparently not just us here discussing if he’d plead guilty or not… people are taking bets about it (and other bets about his case) on Polymarket.

I think he might do best by pleading guilty, but IANAL and we will have to see. I'm still thinking that he might attempt suicide, and possible succeed, prior to going to trial. Jail must be a very, very, very rude awakening to him. MOO

 

[OneLove]

He does not appear to be a voracious writer to me. At least based on his manifesto. It's concise.

The swath he cut in social media was quite prolific across multiple platforms. And I believe the manifesto to which you refer is the simple few handwritten pages from his spiral notebook that he'd written most likely in a hurried manner on the run, was it not?

There is another one that was released the day after his arrest that was widely refuted to be his due to that but substack allows prescheduled releases and I've not seen anything that indicates he didn't have that one scheduled to be published on a day to day basis from before the hit if he was not around to reschedule it himself (if he had been caught).

 

[Seattle1]

does anyone think this was an unusual job for him? I guess if he got a good offer coming out of school- programming is programming and data is data, but I do not see any interest in cars from him- he does not seem to have a car (?) or drive one and it just does seems like something he would be bored with in about a week. IMO

Not at all -- from his LinkedIn Resume, his 4 years at True Car, Inc. where he progressed from Data Engineer I to Data Engineer III -- his remote duties from HI (for Santa Monica, CA firm) could have been applicable to any enterprise and not limited to "cars." JMO

 

[mrstfs]

There’s a memecoin now for this dude.

After Arrest for Murder, $LUIGI's Market Cap Hits $60M

Stay updated on $LUIGI's unprecedented rise to a $60M market cap in the wake of Luigi Mangione's murder-arrest. Read details & expert insights.

crypto.news

 

[Friday Fan]

The swath he cut in social media was quite prolific across multiple platforms. And I believe the manifesto to which you refer is the simple few handwritten pages from his spiral notebook that he'd written most likely in a hurried manner on the run, was it not?

There is another one that was released the day after his arrest that was widely refuted to be his due to that but substack allows prescheduled releases and I've not seen anything that indicates he didn't have that one scheduled to be published on a day to day basis from before the hit if he was not around to reschedule it himself (if he had been caught).

The one on substack came from a website that was created after he was arrested. Hence it was proven that it was not him.

The ability to write concisely under pressure is high level. I cannot do it. It requires a thinking process that is very organized, clearcut and defined.

I also noticed his handwriting was fairly, neat and uniform. It appeared to be organized.

I would be like, "No, let me scribble that out...But wait a minute. " Mine would be a total mess.