NY - UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson fatally shot in Midtown.

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Dec 5, 2024

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• Rush4087

The person likely would not have been at that event. It's in Minnesota. Plenty of anti-capitalists in NYC.

 

[getthefax]

Shooting him in the back does feel like a youthful lack of confidence. Don’t we usually hear about two quick shots to the head in contract killings? He seized the moment because he couldn’t get closer to his target. You’d think a seasoned professional would be mindful of cameras.

Hmm. I see what you’re saying about youthfulness, but I dunno. There is nothing really to me in this killing that suggests a lack of confidence. To me it reads full of bravado: Taking the F train to commit a murder; heavily surveilled NYC; stopping at Starbucks; shooting the keynote speaker at a large investor conference; the target was a wildly successful and rich CEO of a major insurance company; calm and collected firing of a type of round that had a high propensity for jamming; bullets with messages on them; speeding away on a bicycle…
Cold as hell for sure, and impersonal, but it doesn’t quite read underconfident to me my eye. MOO

 

[clearskies1]

According to WaPo, UnitedHealthcare announced the investor meeting would take place on Dec. 4 at 8am in NYC, but did not disclose the exact location. So it seems like the gunman must have had an inside source — an attendee, hotel staff, someone within the company?

Police are running forensics on the discarded phone found in the alley/pedestrian plaza, so hopefully they will be able to track down whoever he was talking to.

I assume a lot of analysts and institutional investors were invited -- that would probably be the reason it was held at the Hilton, which is very well known for its large ballroom/conference room. With many attendees, I think it would not be hard for the location info to leak. https://www.hilton.com/en/hotels/nycnhhh-new-york-hilton-midtown/events/

 

[heartandsoul]

I'm just catching up on this thread. It is absolutely wild to me that someone popped to Starbucks for a coffee before assassinating someone on a Manhattan street. Wild.

 

[Warwick7]

So he acts and reacts in the way that someone with firearms training from law enforcement or the military would be trained to react. M00

The gun appears to be fitted with a silencer. Ok.....which can cause weapons to malfunction and jam. Yet he slides it back overcoming the jam without missing a beat and finishes what he came to do. M00

 

[detective.moon]

this case was on the news here in the netherlands this morning!

my guess would be the shooter is a young guy with ideological reasons, who knows the city quite well

one thing that bothers me - would an anticapitalist go to starbucks? it seems a little bit silly because starbucks is a symbol of capitalism. but i guess his ideas could be more specific than being against everything capitalist. or maybe he’s not very consistent with living according to his ideals when he needs some caffeine, lol

 

[MollyHarps]

Just been catching up on this thread.

Firstly, RIP to Brian Thompson.

The fact that the killer was on his phone to somebody moments before the killing suggests to me that this was a 2 person job - somebody at that conference hotel must have been communicating Brians movements to the killer IMO.

I find the wife releasing quite a substantial statement so quickly after the killing very odd - if I was in her situation I’d be in a state of shock and not be in a position to release stuff.

At this stage I’m going with either a disgruntled employee whose hired somebody to do it or a more domestic family related incident.

 

[BrownRice]

Wow. “Deny,” “defend,” and “depose” — seems to confirm the speculation that the murder was ideologically or politically motivated.

Or to make it look like it was.

 

[honestground]

So one news outlet says there's video that he exited a subway station at 6:15am that morning but eye witnesses in another article say he was there by the hotel in a corner the whole night waiting?

What am I missing here, can anyone fill me in? Trying to get caught up and piece it together. Thank you!

 

[GRT]

Totally agree. I was just getting ready to post the same thing. I think the “deny, defend, depose” messaging is related to the DOJ investigation.

MOO.

It very likely is. MOO

It's similar to the title of a book about insurance companies.

 

[GRT]

It's like he changed the word "Delay" in the book's title to "Depose" because he intended to depose the man in a way he wouldn't be coming back.

MOO

 

[BrownRice]

If the killer is some zealot who hates insurance companies (not a personal grudge), then the CEOs and top execs of CIGNA, UHC, AETNA, and BCBS should be upping their security games about now.

I’ve worked with (not for) all of these carriers, and they’re all basically the same. Make members jump thru hoops to get things paid, go to physical therapy 10x before MRI approval, no automated process to file appeals, providers have to make multiple peer to peer calls to approve an annual infusion that is literally approved every year after multiple denials , etc. IMO (and I’m close to retirement in this field after decades in my career) UHC is no worse than others.

I could see how this can be a personal grudge from a UHC member (or family member) if they had to go thru the frustration of getting claims paid/denied/no access to care etc.

What people should be talking about after this murder is solved is the outrageous insurance CEO salaries. That’s criminal.

 

[GRT]

At first, I thought it was a professional hit, and I still think it was very well planned out, but the message on the casings might indicate something bigger--like a formal resistance.

The word, "Depose," has a political undertone--to depose someone in power...

The killer went to a lot of work and preparation. It makes me wonder if he's a part of a larger group, or resistance that wants to send an ideological message.

Those words hint at a revolutionary meaning--how calculated was this act? An assassination with cryptic messages.

All just my wild MOO.

 

[Kittybunny]

<modsnip - quoted post was random gossip over drinks by uninvolved people>

Plus, the words on the bullet do make it seem that this is more UHC related. If he is younger, which I believe he is, perhaps a parent who died because of denial of care was the motive? Or it could be more generically anti-establishment, anti-insurance company.

 

[Carovb5]

It very likely is. MOO

It's similar to the title of a book about insurance companies.

This already made Belgian MSM. News goes fast!
“Does mysterious message on bullets used by cold-blooded perpetrator to kill CEO refer to 2010 book? “Brian Thompson was threatened”
Verwijst mysterieuze boodschap op kogels die koelbloedige dader gebruikte om CEO te doden naar boek uit 2010? “Brian Thompson werd bedreigd”

 

[Elley Mae]

A canvas of surveillance cameras on the perimeter of Central Park also revealed a person resembling the suspect entered the park on the Upper West Side, near the Fredrick Douglass houses, hours before the shooting and exited the park on the west side sometime after the shooting.

UnitedHealthcare CEO shooting: Suspect arrived in New York on bus from Atlanta: ABC News sources

Law enforcement sources told ABC News that the suspect went through Port Authority Bus Terminal and detectives have been looking to see if they can spot him on video.

abc7ny.com

 

[Zinn]

 

[Carovb5]

A canvas of surveillance cameras on the perimeter of Central Park also revealed a person resembling the suspect entered the park on the Upper West Side, near the Fredrick Douglass houses, hours before the shooting and exited the park on the west side sometime after the shooting.

UnitedHealthcare CEO shooting: Suspect arrived in New York on bus from Atlanta: ABC News sources

Law enforcement sources told ABC News that the suspect went through Port Authority Bus Terminal and detectives have been looking to see if they can spot him on video.

abc7ny.com

How does this work in combination with him leaving the train station 6h15. Leaving stuff (bike, possibly clothes, the bikebattery,… on various places probably.)

Does that mean he likely didn’t travel by train, only visite the train station to leave stuff there to be able to flee incognito? Or is there enough time to travel away from Central Park & back by train by 6h15?
Maybe someone from NY here knows the traveldurations/distances?

 

[Inthedetails]

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My guess is he took the downtown D or B from the UWS and then transferred to the uptown F at Rockefeller Center. He was spotted on the UWS earlier in the morning carrying the bike battery which is why I think that is his subway commute to the crime scene.

I'm thinking the bike was stashed by the Starbucks beforehand and he took the subway to the crime scene and the rode the bike back to UWS.

jmopinion

 

[Elley Mae]

Another new video shows the alleged suspect biking out of Central Park, on West 85th Street, after the shooting.

UnitedHealthcare CEO shooting: Suspect arrived in New York on bus from Atlanta: ABC News sources

Law enforcement sources told ABC News that the suspect went through Port Authority Bus Terminal and detectives have been looking to see if they can spot him on video.

abc7ny.com