4 Univ of Idaho Students Murdered, Bryan Kohberger Arrested, Moscow, Nov 2022 #101

[arielilane]

Very sad to hear. The Goncavles family were not notified that text messages or 911 call
were being released, until they were. They found out like everyone else.

Victims families really are given the raw end …

To be fair, maybe there was a misconnect between the state and or an advocate?
Though, doubtful.

Its always been my understanding that the state keeps open communication with the families, but I guess not in this case.

I know they dont tell them everything, they are not privy to a lot of information. This they would be, why not give them a heads up... Simple courtesy.


I have the upmost respect for Mr. Goncavles; and agree with everything he stated; and agree with his attorney, too.

Hoping for much peace for the ID families -- they've lost their loved ones, for absolutely no reason.


@BrianEntin


"That was a raw, emotional breakdown of two girls that were scared for their lives."Idaho victims family reacts to text messages and 911 call released in Bryan Kohberger case."I'm just pissed" -- lawyer for Goncavles family says because they were not notified prior to release.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1898018062814560617

 

[Mamakhat]

I just wanted to quickly say thank you to everyone who responded to my post about the witness being credible. I really DO appreciate everyone's opinion and I absolutely loved reading all of the different possibilities, so thank you! Done with my bit, carry on!

 

[MassGuy]

This is the Kohberger case in in it's most basic form:

Four college students are found stabbed to death in their house.

A bloody knife sheath is found beneath one of their bodies.

The snap of this sheath (portion that secures the handle to the sheath) has a complete single source touch DNA profile.

The DNA is not in CODIS, so law enforcement gives a sample to Othram, in order to build a family tree and identify the contributor.

The FBI takes over from Othram, ultimately identifying Bryan Kohberger as the likely contributor of that DNA.

All along, law enforcement has been looking for a white Hyundai seen on surveillance video around the time of the murders.Apparently unbeknownst to investigators, WSU police have also identified Bryan Kohberger as the owner of a white Hyundai, leaving and returning to campus at times consistent with him being the killer.

With a name to work with, police have the probable cause to obtain search warrants.Coupled with the surveillance footage, his phone records confirm that there is no innocent explanation for his DNA being at the scene.

He leaves campus in his white Hyundai at a time consistent with him being the killer. Minutes into this drive, his phone goes dark for the entire murder window.

About a half hour after the murders, his phone comes back to life, apparently utilizing a VPN.

He returns to his apartment, spends about 3 hours there, before heading back into Moscow. He spends minutes there before returning home (planning on soaking in the response to his handiwork perhaps).

Phone records also show a dozen late night/early morning trips to the Moscow area prior to the murders.

Law enforcement surreptitiously takes trash from the Kohberger home in Pennsylvania. DNA in that trash is a match to a man who genetically must be BK's father. This pushes the case against him over the edge, giving law enforcement the probable cause necessary to obtain an arrest warrant. A confirmation DNA sample is taken from Kohberger, and he's a match to the DNA on the knife sheath. The odds of it being anyone else? Over 5 octillion to one.

So you have his DNA at the scene. If there's an innocent explanation it should be incredibly easy to alibi him. Instead, every single thing he does is what he would be doing if he was the killer. There is so much we don't know (what's in his Apple records, Amazon purchase history, Gmail account, what his devices show, etc). But anyone looking at these basic case facts saying "he's innocent," is doing so because they want him to be innocent. That's not how it works.

 

[arielilane]

Bicka Barlow is the attorney who joined Bryan Kohberger's defense team.​

District Judge Steven Hippler allowed Bicka Barlow to join Kohberger's legal team on a pro hac vice basis, reported Newsweek. This is when an attorney outside of their jurisdiction is permitted to practice law in a different jurisdiction for a specific case. Barlow is an attorney who specializes in cases involving forensic DNA evidence and is based out of California. She will be joining Anne Taylor, Elisa Massoth, and Jay Logsdon on Kohberg's legal team.

Bicka Barlow Has Joined Bryan Kohberger's Legal Defense Team — Here's What We Know About Her

Bryan Kohberger has a new attorney ahead of his August 2025 murder trial. Bicka Barlow joined his legal team in February 2025. Details explained.

www.distractify.com

Edit: New post, article

 

[Megnut]

• NewOrder Sealing Exhibit A to Defendants 7th Motion to Compel
• NewDefendants Motion for Leave to File Responses to the States Amended Expert Disclosures
• NewDefendants Seventh Motion to Compel Discovery
• NewMotion to Modify No Contact Order
• NewMotion to Seal Exhibit A to Defendants

Hold the phone.

The motion to modify the no contact order

Previous order was for the father of one of the victims, now seeking to extend the order over his wife and stepdaughter as well.

Standard operating procedure?

Or is BK harassing people?

It had to be SOP, no? Maybe a recent marriage, so just a logical addition?

JMO

 

[MassGuy]

Hold the phone.

The motion to modify the no contact order

Previous order was for the father of one of the victims, now seeking to extend the order over his wife and stepdaughter as well.

Standard operating procedure?

Or is BK harassing people?

It had to be SOP, no? Maybe a recent marriage, so just a logical addition?

JMO

Yeah. I think there’s a recent marriage and a new stepdaughter as a result. This reads as a standard update.

 

[Boxer]

College.

 

[fcavanaugh]

College.

@Boxer, interested in your thoughts, can you please elaborate/clarify?

TIA

IMHOO

 

[arielilane]

Inquiring minds...want to know

@Angenette5


This is interesting. Trying to piece this together #BryanKohberger



7:52 PM · Mar 7, 2025

https://twitter.com/x/status/1898175040111489521

 

[LinasK]

People like drawing eyes (eyelashes, eyebrows), hands, and other features to sharpen their art skills. It's not in Anne Taylor's interest to mention other drawings pinned to DM's wall. She's trying to paint a picture of a girl singularly obsessed with eyebrows in order to discredit her testimony.

I fail to see how it discredits her, if anything it means that the roommate pays more attention to eyebrows than your average person, so she knows what she saw- intoxicated/sleepy or not.

 

[LinasK]

Not really.
But can DM be even used as a witness, given her issues?

What issues? If she was drunk, the defense can call her and discredit her.

 

[Gigiky]

Inquiring minds...want to know

@Angenette5


This is interesting. Trying to piece this together #BryanKohberger

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7:52 PM · Mar 7, 2025

https://twitter.com/x/status/1898175040111489521

Does it mean that BK has tried to contact this person / persons? Wow!
Surely he can't be that stupid! JMO

 

[Megnut]

Does it mean that BK has tried to contact this person / persons? Wow!
Surely he can't be that stupid! JMO

I think we can safely assume it's standard. Expanded to include a victim's father's new family and NOT an indication of any activity by BK. For a hot second though, I thought just as you did.

JMO

 

[MassGuy]

Just thinking about the defense argument that his phone showed him going in a different direction prior to it going dark. I had chalked it up to the defense being wrong, or BK just taking a strange route.

I now think this was intentional on his part, and he wanted to create a false trail away from Moscow before shutting off his phone. This jibes with his phone appearing nowhere near Moscow when it finally came back online after the murders.

He was trying to outsmart law enforcement.

 

[Megnut]

Just thinking about the defense argument that his phone showed him going in a different direction prior to it going dark. I had chalked it up to the defense being wrong, or BK just taking a strange route.

I now think this was intentional on his part, and he wanted to create a false trail away from Moscow before shutting off his phone. This jibes with his phone appearing nowhere near Moscow when it finally came back online after the murders.

He was trying to outsmart law enforcement.

So obvious now that you point it out!

Colossal fail.

JMO

 

[al66pine]

BK Creating False Trail for LE?

Just thinking about the defense argument that his phone showed him going in a different direction prior to it going dark. I had chalked it up to the defense being wrong, or BK just taking a strange route.

I now think this was intentional on his part, and he wanted to create a false trail away from Moscow before shutting off his phone. This jibes with his phone appearing nowhere near Moscow when it finally came back online after the murders.

He was trying to outsmart law enforcement.

@MassGuy An excellent point, which was lost in the shuffle for some time.

As @Megnut (TYVM : ) ) responded to your post --- "So obvious now that you point it out!"

Yep, BK trying to outsmart law enforcement and any people who would follow case.
Worked for a while.

Does BK still have Deputy Barney Fife of Mayberry, NC stumped on this?

 

[Ghostwheel]

Just thinking about the defense argument that his phone showed him going in a different direction prior to it going dark. I had chalked it up to the defense being wrong, or BK just taking a strange route.

I now think this was intentional on his part, and he wanted to create a false trail away from Moscow before shutting off his phone. This jibes with his phone appearing nowhere near Moscow when it finally came back online after the murders.

He was trying to outsmart law enforcement.

And I just chalked it up to the the defense throwing spaghetti at the wall to see what sticks, you know. As if people cannot change direction after their phone goes dark.

 

[MassGuy]

<modsnip - off topic>

For him to be innocent, one would need to accept a scenario where: (a) his DNA was coincidentally or deliberately planted on the sheath, (b) his car and phone were near the scene by chance or due to someone else’s actions, and (c) all this aligns with a criminology student’s profile unrelated to the crime. Each piece compounds the improbability—multiplying small fractions like 0.01 (1%) for DNA misplacement, 0.05 (5%) for vehicle coincidence, and 0.10 (10%) for phone data misalignment yields a combined probability well under 0.1% (1 in 1,000).

 

[Ghostwheel]

<modsnip - off topic>

For him to be innocent, one would need to accept a scenario where: (a) his DNA was coincidentally or deliberately planted on the sheath, (b) his car and phone were near the scene by chance or due to someone else’s actions, and (c) all this aligns with a criminology student’s profile unrelated to the crime. Each piece compounds the improbability—multiplying small fractions like 0.01 (1%) for DNA misplacement, 0.05 (5%) for vehicle coincidence, and 0.10 (10%) for phone data misalignment yields a combined probability well under 0.1% (1 in 1,000).

I need to ask. Has it ever been proven, except for the traffic stop and citation, that his vehicle was identified as being near the scene? I know his phone pinged, and of course I know a car that looks like his was on video, but was it ever proven that it was his? (Serious question, not trying to be a bozo)

 

[fcavanaugh]

And I just chalked it up to the the defense throwing spaghetti at the wall to see what sticks, you know. As if people cannot change direction after their phone goes dark.

Ha! Changed direction after shutting his phone off and must have forgot to account for CCTV surveillance cameras catching vehicle that looks very similar to his (imo it was his) doing the loop da loop (circling) in area of the murder house just prior to going in to commit the massacre, and speeding away from the scene after.

With all the various Digital trails people leave these days and CCTV surveillance cameras just about everywhere, makes it harder to get away with crime/murder so much so that even highly educated, intelligent perpetrators are getting tripped up/ caught a lot faster these days thanks to digital forensics which I’ve heard and read some LE/investigators refer to as the ‘new’ DNA with r/t solving crimes.

IMHOO