I am not disputing what the operator was trying to do. But one of the girls actually asks, "Can I tell you what happened?... At 4 a.m." The operator cuts her off. The speaker believes those events were tied to the "passed out" victim. In order to know what it is the most urgent issue at hand, the operator needs to understand the situation. The girls could have disturbed and tainted a crime scene.
I agree with this to a large extent. While the operator could have been kinder,, the job is to dispatch the emergency vehicles needed and keep people alive until help can get there. You can't do that if you don't know whether or not someone is breathing.
WOW, mic drop!Goncalves Family Statement:
As we continue to process the 911 call we just wanted to share some of our thoughts….
We stand together with all the victims of Idaho—both those we have lost and those who remain, forever marked by a tragedy that no passage of time will ever erase.
The 911 call? It is not the neatly rehearsed dialogue of a well-crafted story, not the polished performance you might expect from a Hollywood script.
No. It is raw. It is jagged. A searing, unvarnished truth that no camera could ever hope to capture. Every breath. Every cry. Every tremor in the voice reveals a reality so cruel, so brutally honest, it cuts deeper than anything fiction could devise.
After hearing that call, one thing is clear—H, with his quiet, stoic resolve, protected those girls from a nightmare that no one should ever be forced to witness. He stepped into the abyss, shielding them from horrors that will haunt him forever.
For that, the Goncalves family owes him a debt that words cannot repay.
If you were expecting a neat, cinematic conclusion—something palatable, something that offers closure—let me make this clear:
The real world does not operate on such terms. The terror of that night cannot be cleanly packaged, wrapped in a bow, or distilled into a simple, digestible narrative. It is ugly. It is painful. It is the kind of horror that shakes you to your deepest core. These were not adults. They were children, still clinging to the fragile threads of innocence when the world was violently torn from them in an instant.
In closing let us face the uncomfortable truth: Had the 911 call been made the moment the accused left that house; it would not have saved anyone. Nothing would have changed.
So, we ask, respectfully—please, do not waste your energy pointing fingers at those who could not have prevented it.
The anger, the grief, the pain—they must all be focused on one thing. One person. The one who stole the innocence of Moscow that night, we demand justice and that cause is all that matters now.
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However, is it more important to get help for someone who might need it, or preserve a possible crime scene? I, personally, would go with get help.
For me, where the 9-1-1 dispatcher got most annoying and stern was insisting they locate their defibrillator. Am I on a different planet? Is it commonplace to have a home defibrillator? We have them at work and church, and I sometimes see them in public places, but the girls ID’d their location as a house. Just wondering why she would have assumed they had that medical devise. OMO..
Operator interrupted the “at 4 am”-what if the 4 am reference had something to do with why her roommate might be passed out-say, at 4 am my roommate shot heroin. It could have given information on the reason. I understand that it was about the victim in present time and her condition, but I don’t think the operator was able to judge what was being said in 3 words. Hindsight is 20/20, and the operator was reading from her script. Again, none of it would have made a difference.
Am I conflating these stabbings with Delphi murders? Maybe so, but I thought I'd read that he went quickly for the neck and throats---which is why no-one heard screaming and things were over fast.
OOPs, just saw the reply, that it was in chest area, not neck. I think I was mixing it up with the Delphi murders? Sorry....
I honestly do not believe it made any difference whether the first knife plunge was to the neck or chest. Conventional wisdom is that a knife blade needs about four inches of pentetration to cause a mortal wound in the torso area of an adult, and the KaBar has a seven inch blade, capable of cutting through ribs easily. I believe a well-placed stab in the chest area would be fatal as quickly as one to the neck area, and may be sudden enough that the victim would not have the time or ability to scream. We do know that at least XK, and perhaps KG both put up some resistance, but their energies were most likely completely expended in defending themselves from the killer. JMOOOPs, just saw the reply, that it was in chest area, not neck. I think I was mixing it up with the Delphi murders? Sorry....
From what I can gather, it's incredibly rare. When it does happen, it's generally in the context of vulnerable witnesses who have had crimes committed against them (think child sex abuse victims).
