4 Univ of Idaho Students Murdered, Bryan Kohberger Arrested, Moscow, Nov 2022 #102

[Sachi]

RSBM
I just had a thought about this disturbing comment. I find myself hoping desperately that Xana did believe that someone had come to help them, and that she never knew any different.

Agree. It’s something out of a horror movie yet real. Pure evil.

 

[Melsworld]

I hate to ask but I have fallen so far behind I'll never get caught up reading through this entire thread. Are there links to the documents released the last two weeks or are they scattered throughout this thread? I may need to read through anyway...it looks like there lots of good discussions here in 102.

 

[Sachi]

I hate to ask but I have fallen so far behind I'll never get caught up reading through this entire thread. Are there links to the documents released the last two weeks or are they scattered throughout this thread? I may need to read through anyway...it looks like there lots of good discussions here in 102.

Off the top of my head. I think MassGuy has provided many links. There are others too. I don’t know if anyone is compiling.

 

[Melsworld]

Thank you so much!!!

 

[vls12345]

At least some of the links are in the media thread too. Check the last few pages of posts there.

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[danablue1]

What?

KG's dad said this before the gag order

 

[Justice101]

Allowed? They didn't definitely know it was him at the time.

I thought they had pulled a DNA sample from trash and confirmed the knife sheath DNA and BK matched... this, all before the midnight raid.

 

[Megnut]

RSBM
I just had a thought about this disturbing comment. I find myself hoping desperately that Xana did believe that someone had come to help them, and that she never knew any different.

I hate to disabuse you of that hope, but she whimpered, she was able to react enough to receive defensive injuries (maybe just a split-second reflex to protect her face/chest. I fear she saw what he did to EC and saw him coming at her next. Potentially he came up behind her, hand over her mouth, "don't worry, I'm here to help you" (more like: don't worry... I'm here to help make sure you don't scream), and did just that. No scream, only a whimper.

Even if it happened in under 30 seconds, there's no way it wasn't abject terror. If there was even a single fitbit in the home, brace yourself.

JMO

 

[Megnut]

I thought they had pulled a DNA sample from trash and confirmed the knife sheath DNA and BK matched... this, all before the midnight raid.

Trash pull gave an astronomically high paternal association.

Buccal swab at arrest was the statistical match 5 octillion to 1, confirming BK's DNA on the sheath.

JMO

 

[Megnut]

I hate to ask but I have fallen so far behind I'll never get caught up reading through this entire thread. Are there links to the documents released the last two weeks or are they scattered throughout this thread? I may need to read through anyway...it looks like there lots of good discussions here in 102.

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[Justice101]

Trash pull gave an astronomically high paternal association.

Buccal swab at arrest was the statistical match 5 octillion to 1, confirming BK's DNA on the sheath.

JMO

Ok got cha. I had thought they familial matched to father to narrow it down, then got a full DNA sample from trash to confirm BK before they arrested him.

 

[Warwick7]

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[Arkay]

Trash pull gave an astronomically high paternal association.

Buccal swab at arrest was the statistical match 5 octillion to 1, confirming BK's DNA on the sheath.

JMO

Just a general note of appreciation for you and all the other members who remember things that I forget.

So many cases to follow; I see that sometimes I forget details from what is which case.

It’s wonderful to have a community with so many intelligent and compassionate people, who support the victims of all the tragedies in which we are so emotionally invested.

My opinion lol on the entirety of Websleuths, and particularly the help when cases start to overlap in my mind!

 

[303gmf]

Thought I was on the Morphew thread for a minute...

Originally a Patrick Frazee utterance on Kelsey Berreth’s thread, it fits a few of these murdering men

 

[Megnut]

Someone fact check me please. Didn't Judge Hippler just admonish both sides not to abuse the seal? That not every motion meets the criteria? I imagine that's what led to this recent, mass unsealing.

And if that's the case, can we infer that there are other motions which remain sealed?!!

So there may be discovery we don't yet know about?!!! Like potential fitbits?!!!! We know nothing about the DoorDash event, outside of "around 4 am" -- will be so illuminating to learn the exact time, to learn how the timing aligned with BK's movements, what was ordered and when it was ordered and whether any of it was eaten.

What we know is damning beyond doubt, but I'm still so curious about what we don't yet know.

JMO

 

[PinkParis2052]

I hate to ask but I have fallen so far behind I'll never get caught up reading through this entire thread. Are there links to the documents released the last two weeks or are they scattered throughout this thread? I may need to read through anyway...it looks like there lots of good discussions here in 102.

here's a link to the recent filing for 2025 at Ada county

Just click on the link below.

State of Idaho v. Bryan C. Kohberger

 

[Tealgrove]

“I’m here to help you”.

Curious if any other murderer/serial killer said those words to his victims.

 

[MassGuy]

“I’m here to help you”.

Curious if any other murderer/serial killer said those words to his victims.

BTK did something similar. During his first murders he told his victims that he was just going to rob them, so they'd comply. I think BK did the same type of thing here, in an attempt to stop his victim from struggling.

 

[browneyes]

Someone fact check me please. Didn't Judge Hippler just admonish both sides not to abuse the seal? That not every motion meets the criteria? I imagine that's what led to this recent, mass unsealing.

And if that's the case, can we infer that there are other motions which remain sealed?!!

So there may be discovery we don't yet know about?!!! Like potential fitbits?!!!! We know nothing about the DoorDash event, outside of "around 4 am" -- will be so illuminating to learn the exact time, to learn how the timing aligned with BK's movements, what was ordered and when it was ordered and whether any of it was eaten.

What we know is damning beyond doubt, but I'm still so curious about what we don't yet know.

JMO

I agree, the worst is yet to come. IMO

 

[sprightly]

Did anyone hear KG's dad say "He didn't have to go upstairs" i always wondered what he meant by that. It was before the gag order when he was talking alot.

I always read this as, "He didn't have to do this. ANY of this." I don't think it speaks to who his target was or the order in which it happened. I think it was just a distraught family member imagining a world in which BK DIDN'T go upstairs, DIDN'T enter the house, DIDN'T kill four innocent kids.

I definitely am in the camp of MM or KG being his target and XK being intercepted while in the kitchen after her DD order (putting up leftovers or throwing away trash or whatever) and chased back to her room, explaining why he didn't really NEED extensive familiarity with the home's convoluted layout: He followed her back to her room.

I also strongly suspect that the roommates had a group chat (we have one for our neighborhood, as well as one for our household; my daughter, who is college age, has multiple group chats with her friends) and there might be some interesting texts there, too, e.g. XK texting, "WTF is going on?" before going silent, which would explain why the surviving roommates would be even more concerned about her initially than MM and KG. I think the texts we've seen are only the tip of the iceberg and that everything else we see is going to keep breaking our hearts even more.