4 Univ of Idaho Students Murdered, Bryan Kohberger Arrested, Moscow, Nov 2022 #108


These two are new re defendant's amended mitigation witness list. Jmo this definately appears to be business as usual with extra emphasis on mitigation witnesses. I'm just getting the strong feeling that defense is behaving as if there will be a trial in August. Ofcourse we haven't seen an order yet regarding the motion for continuance.

ETA, I forgot the third

Defense's notice of compliance with witness lists for both phases of trial.

 
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Where would Gray Hughes get the bathroom aspect when I don’t think it’s been part of anything like released court documents, a MSM article, or documentary such as Dateline? Are we to believe it? I haven’t watched it (everyone says it’s so frieghtening) — did he name a source?

OMO.
He did not. It was supposed to be an animation of a "possible" way it all happened (take it as speculation). But it did use several rumors in that possibility, one was a stop in the bathroom , one was Xana having gone up the stairs and being chased down. Neither have been confirmed in any court document I am aware of. I take them with a "could be" because so many rumors ended up with at least some truth. I had read about the chair having blood on it in a pattern in keeping with being sat on long before now, but that doesn't mean Dateline's report that the killer sat on the chair is true. Unless there is an actual witness or some other definitive evidence we don't know about yet. But is it possible there is blood on the chair in a pattern in keeping with the killer sitting on it? Sure. Is it possible there are more shoeprints? Sure. Is it possible the killer got a blood spatter in his eye and he went to wash it out? Sure. Is it possible everything that could have gone wrong went wrong for the killer and he had to adlib? You bet.

BTW, frightening is relative. I, personally, found it fairly poorly done, but worth a look see. If you are a person who gets the creeps at the ghost of Christmas future in Mr. Magoo's Christmas carol, definitely stay away. Know if dark scenes insinuating despicable acts when you know what the results were is something you can handle. If not, passing is a fine choice.

For those who did not want to watch, there is a scene in the possible way it happened where the killer stops in the bathroom next to Xana's room. The killer is looking in the mirror and the knife is set on the sink top to the upper right. That has in no way ever been verified. But I found it to be an interestingly specific something to add to the possible scenario.

I suspect Gray Hughes was inspired, in part at least, by the following:

Defendant disclosed expert opinions from Brent Turvey that more than one assailant was necessary to accomplish the crime in the time frame alleged. Specifically, he asserts that: 1) There is direct and indirect evidence that attempts were made by the suspect(s) to clean up the crime scene after the homicides, which would have taken far longer than the time interval alleged by the State.

Source: Order on Defendants Motion in Limine RE Vague and Undisclosed Expert Testimony

(III, F. Darren Gilbertson, p. 7)

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These two are new re defendant's amended mitigation witness list. Jmo this definately appears to be business as usual with extra emphasis on mitigation witnesses. I'm just getting the strong feeling that defense is behaving as if there will be a trial in August. Ofcourse we haven't seen an order yet regarding the motion for continuance.

ETA, I forgot the third

Defense's notice of compliance with witness lists for both phases of trial.

that's good news
 

State of Idaho v. Bryan C. Kohberger​

Ada County CR01-24-31665

Current Case Summary

State of Idaho v. Bryan C. Kohberger


5/30/2025

5/29/2025
5/28/2025


6/2/2025
CANCELED Jury Trial (8:30 AM) (Judicial Officer: Christensen, Richard S. ;Location: Courtroom 3)
Vacated

6/18/2025
Hearing Scheduled (12:30 PM) (Judicial Officer: Hippler, Steven)

7/21/2025
CANCELED Hearing Scheduled (9:00 AM) (Judicial Officer: Hippler, Steven)
Vacated

7/30/2025
Hearing Scheduled (9:00 AM) (Judicial Officer: Hippler, Steven)


8/11/2025
Jury Trial (8:30 AM) (Judicial Officer: Hippler, Steven)
 
While we wait for the judge's ruling, I'm trying to imagine how AT intends to frame this.

BK's DNA on the sheath.
But not his sheath?
Except Amazon.
So his sheath but someone else had it?
BK's Elantra but he wasn't stalking 1122. He was stargazing. In the middle of the city. 23 + 4 times, just couldn't find a good vantage point, especially in the fog.
BK lost his knife 300' from 1122.
And a pedestrian with bushy brybrows found it and decided to enter 1122 and kill people.
Realizing he lost his knife, BK searched Amazon for a replacement, just to have and to hold.
You can't trust 'bushy' anyway. Lots of people who find knives are tall, slim and brybrowed.

Seriously, where is she going to go with his defense?

JMO
 
While we wait for the judge's ruling, I'm trying to imagine how AT intends to frame this.

BK's DNA on the sheath.
But not his sheath?
Except Amazon.
So his sheath but someone else had it?
BK's Elantra but he wasn't stalking 1122. He was stargazing. In the middle of the city. 23 + 4 times, just couldn't find a good vantage point, especially in the fog.
BK lost his knife 300' from 1122.
And a pedestrian with bushy brybrows found it and decided to enter 1122 and kill people.
Realizing he lost his knife, BK searched Amazon for a replacement, just to have and to hold.
You can't trust 'bushy' anyway. Lots of people who find knives are tall, slim and brybrowed.

Seriously, where is she going to go with his defense?

JMO
I doubt she'll get a specific alternative perp into evidence. Jmo she's going to have to make do with a generic, 'unknown', some other dude aka SODDI. If her TODDI doesn't pass muster we'll never know who she was aiming for.
 
I am sure it's already been said and I've missed it but I keep wondering how they knew Xana had been on the stairs. I think she may have dropped her phone when she ran back down them and that's where it was found the next day.
I wonder the same.

DM thought it was KG but DM didn't know XK was awake and moving around and certainly didn't yet know BK was in the house.

I don't think it was KG OR XK on the steps. I believe she heard BK go up the steps and come back down. Loud with vans, fast on the way down because he heard DM but encountered XK.

JMO
 
I wonder the same.

DM thought it was KG but DM didn't know XK was awake and moving around and certainly didn't yet know BK was in the house.

I don't think it was KG OR XK on the steps. I believe she heard BK go up the steps and come back down. Loud with vans, fast on the way down because he heard DM but encountered XK.

JMO
DM miraculously escaped being stabbed to death. I wonder why she didn't go up to see if something was wrong. Perhaps there were no noises that frightened her at that point? Makes me think BK was pretty efficient once inside the room.

This is scary stuff.
 
DM was awakened at 4 am by sounds, after having been awake and chatting with roommates just hours before. At the max, there was noise from 4:10 to 4:20, but more likely, 4:11 to 4:17. Six minutes. Quiet before. Quiet after. Sounds that made no sense, state of alert leaving her unsure if it was altogether real or not.

He may have been upstairs for less than a minute, his initial attack complicated by the presence of KG, which awakened DM, which led to BK racing down the stairs to silence DM, but encountering XK instead, it's okay, I'm here to help you. Probably said that near her doorway where he realized he had yet another threat to contend with, EC.

BK spent 5 minutes in XK's room, by my maths.

4:00 XK gets her door dash food, shuts the slider
4:11 BK enters, leaves slider partially open
4:11 XK is in her room, on TikTok with her food
4:11 BK murders MM, lets go of the sheath, bludgeons KG
4:11 DM hears sounds upstairs, which she thinks must be LG and Murphy. I believe she yelled something to her roommates which BK also would have heard. XK might not have heard anything from upstairs or from DM because of her airport.
4:12 XK goes to the kitchen, sees the slider open, says there's someone here, DM hears her (DM thought KG said it but DM assigned all the sounds to KG, she didn't know XK was awake)
4:12 DM hears KG on the stairs. But it was actually BK going up the stairs at 4:11 and quickly back down, in under a minute IMO
4:12 BK sees XK returning to her room. She's a threat to his escape, can't let her call 911. He reaches her, perhaps from behind, quiets her whimper by saying calmly, it's okay, I'm here to help you
4:12 DM looks out her for, sees no one
4:12 XK drops her phone, no more activity on her phone from her
4:13 BK attacks XK. XK tries to stop the knife, is injured badly. BK steps over/around her to kill EC, XK cries, BK returns to her and mortally wounds her
4:14 I think BK may have sat for a moment, to gather his thoughts. Among many miscalculation that night, he may have felt like he'd put out three additional pop up fires and that there would be no more. From this vantage, he may have returned to EC to inflict gratuitous injury. The ME will know if the carving was pre or post mortem. Why do it? Sister's movie. In that movie, the victims were all strangled and each had initials carved in their chests, by a very large knife. This may have been BK's underlying script. From the moment he saw that movie, he may have fantasized about it. Based on his age at the time, it might have cross wired as a sexual fantasy which, into adulthood, he paired with the very SKs he studied. In other words, he always knew he'd do it (kill a girl as SA), and he always wondered how he would decide whom to kill. Hence, his Master's intetest and questionnaire.
4:16-:18:DM opens her door, sees BK
4:17 garbled sounds, THUD, barking dog.
4:19 DM starts calling/texting roommates
4:21 BK speeds away

JMO
 
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DM miraculously escaped being stabbed to death. I wonder why she didn't go up to see if something was wrong. Perhaps there were no noises that frightened her at that point? Makes me think BK was pretty efficient once inside the room.

This is scary stuff.
Definitely scary stuff.

According to Dateline, Xana did go up to see if something was wrong, and she was brutally murdered for her efforts.

Xana was wide awake, listening to TikTok, most likely far more aware than Dylan of her surroundings, far more confident in the accuracy of her perceptions.

What happened to poor Xana is tragic, and thank goodness the same thing didn’t happen to Dylan—a young woman who suffered from anxiety, lucid dreams, nightmares of being kidnapped.

Perhaps Dylan’s mind just couldn’t accept that the terror it accurately perceived was in fact reality and not another nightmare.

Here are some passages from pages 3 and 4 of the Order on Defendants Motion in Limine RE Witness Identification by Bushy Eyebrows:

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And another on page 5 of the same document:

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Note that Dylan first thought the intruder in black might be a fireman—a first responder to a medical emergency.

This is why I think an exhausted BK may have meant for any surviving roommates to hear him say to a dying or already dead Xana (whom Dylan only moments before heard crying):

It’s OK, I’m going to help you.

IMOO
 
Definitely scary stuff.

According to Dateline, Xana did go up to see if something was wrong, and she was brutally murdered for her efforts.

Xana was wide awake, listening to TikTok, most likely far more aware than Dylan of her surroundings, far more confident in the accuracy of her perceptions.

What happened to poor Xana is tragic, and thank goodness the same thing didn’t happen to Dylan—a young woman who suffered from anxiety, lucid dreams, nightmares of being kidnapped.

Perhaps Dylan’s mind just couldn’t accept that the terror it accurately perceived was in fact reality and not another nightmare.

Here are some passages from pages 3 and 4 of the Order on Defendants Motion in Limine RE Witness Identification by Bushy Eyebrows:

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And another on page 5 of the same document:

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Note that Dylan first thought the intruder in black might be a fireman—a first responder to a medical emergency.

This is why I think an exhausted BK may have meant for any surviving roommates to hear him say to a dying or already dead Xana (whom Dylan only moments before heard crying):



IMOO
Definitely scary stuff.

According to Dateline, Xana did go up to see if something was wrong, and she was brutally murdered for her efforts.

Xana was wide awake, listening to TikTok, most likely far more aware than Dylan of her surroundings, far more confident in the accuracy of her perceptions.

What happened to poor Xana is tragic, and thank goodness the same thing didn’t happen to Dylan—a young woman who suffered from anxiety, lucid dreams, nightmares of being kidnapped.

Perhaps Dylan’s mind just couldn’t accept that the terror it accurately perceived was in fact reality and not another nightmare.

Here are some passages from pages 3 and 4 of the Order on Defendants Motion in Limine RE Witness Identification by Bushy Eyebrows:

View attachment 590005

And another on page 5 of the same document:

View attachment 590009

Note that Dylan first thought the intruder in black might be a fireman—a first responder to a medical emergency.

This is why I think an exhausted BK may have meant for any surviving roommates to hear him say to a dying or already dead Xana (whom Dylan only moments before heard crying):



IMOO
I'm going to suffer through the movie again, to see if the creepy murderer says something like that. I feel like he might have.

One obvious take away from the movie is that it's not just a thriller, it's a psychological thriller. There is A LOT of head messing.

And, while I think BK said what he said to someone in particular, I can't help but to wonder if he's a self-soother with words, weirdly narrating calm to himself, for himself. Not a split personailty in the old sense but a not fully-integrated self...

BK, in front of their bathroom mirror, wiping blood off his face. It's okay, I'm here to help you. He's weird. Maybe he thinks of his hands as friends.

It'll get very real at trial. When we hear from the investigators who surveyed the scene BK left behind. Was XK ever in the bathroom crying? Did BK set the knife down? Did he take a towel or t-shirt? What exactly did BK carve? What made the THUD? Was Murphy really loose, in a room with an open door? And stayed there unrestrained until late in the day when LE located him there? Did BK interact with Murphy at all? It's OK, I'm here to help you. Throw him a bone? Did Murphy bark?

So much still to learn.

JMO
 
DM was awakened at 4 am by sounds, after having been awake and chatting with roommates just hours before. At the max, there was noise from 4:10 to 4:20, but more likely, 4:11 to 4:17. Six minutes. Quiet before. Quiet after. Sounds that made no sense, state of alert leaving her unsure if it was altogether real or not.

He may have been upstairs for less than a minute, his initial attack complicated by the presence of KG, which awakened DM, which led to BK racing down the stairs to silence DM, but encountering XK instead, it's okay, I'm here to help you. Probably said that near her doorway where he realized he had yet another threat to contend with, EC.

BK spent 5 minutes in XK's room, by my maths.

4:00 XK gets her door dash food, shuts the slider
4:11 BK enters, leaves slider partially open
4:11 XK is in her room, on TikTok with her food
4:11 BK murders MM, lets go of the sheath, bludgeons KG
4:11 DM hears sounds upstairs, which she thinks must be LG and Murphy. I believe she yelled something to her roommates which BK also would have heard. XK might not have heard anything from upstairs or from DM because of her airport.
4:12 XK goes to the kitchen, sees the slider open, says there's someone here, DM hears her (DM thought KG said it but DM assigned all the sounds to KG, she didn't know XK was awake)
4:12 DM hears KG on the stairs. But it was actually BK going up the stairs at 4:11 and quickly back down, in under a minute IMO
4:12 BK sees XK returning to her room. She's a threat to his escape, can't let her call 911. He reaches her, perhaps from behind, quiets her whimper by saying calmly, it's okay, I'm here to help you
4:12 DM looks out her for, sees no one
4:12 XK drops her phone, no more activity on her phone from her
4:13 BK attacks XK. XK tries to stop the knife, is injured badly. BK steps over/around her to kill EC, XK cries, BK returns to her and mortally wounds her
4:14 I think BK may have sat for a moment, to gather his thoughts. Among many miscalculation that night, he may have felt like he'd put out three additional pop up fires and that there would be no more. From this vantage, he may have returned to EC to inflict gratuitous injury. The ME will know if the carving was pre or post mortem. Why do it? Sister's movie. In that movie, the victims were all strangled and each had initials carved in their chests, by a very large knife. This may have been BK's underlying script. From the moment he saw that movie, he may have fantasized about it. Based on his age at the time, it might have cross wired as a sexual fantasy which, into adulthood, he paired with the very SKs he studied. In other words, he always knew he'd do it (kill a girl as SA), and he always wondered how he would decide whom to kill. Hence, his Master's intetest and questionnaire.
4:16-:18:DM opens her door, sees BK
4:17 garbled sounds, THUD, barking dog.
4:19 DM starts calling/texting roommates
4:21 BK speeds away

JMO
Wow, I didn’t know those plot details of the horror movie his sister acted in.
 
I'm going to suffer through the movie again, to see if the creepy murderer says something like that. I feel like he might have.

I'm going to suffer through the movie again, to see if the creepy murderer says something like that. I feel like he might have.

One obvious take away from the movie is that it's not just a thriller, it's a psychological thriller. There is A LOT of head messing.

And, while I think BK said what he said to someone in particular, I can't help but to wonder if he's a self-soother with words, weirdly narrating calm to himself, for himself. Not a split personailty in the old sense but a not fully-integrated self...

BK, in front of their bathroom mirror, wiping blood off his face. It's okay, I'm here to help you. He's weird. Maybe he thinks of his hands as friends.

It'll get very real at trial. When we hear from the investigators who surveyed the scene BK left behind. Was XK ever in the bathroom crying? Did BK set the knife down? Did he take a towel or t-shirt? What exactly did BK carve? What made the THUD? Was Murphy really loose, in a room with an open door? And stayed there unrestrained until late in the day when LE located him there? Did BK interact with Murphy at all? It's OK, I'm here to help you. Throw him a bone? Did Murphy bark?

So much still to learn.

JMO

@Megnut, I wasn’t disagreeing with you, by the way. You are just a much faster writer! 😊 When I finally posted my reply to @Kudzuu, I saw that you had already posted a different scenario.

That’s the thing about having access to court documents only—we know mere glimpses of the truth. Humans are story-telling and story-loving creatures, so we will fill in those gaps in the narrative until we finally (hopefully) discover the truth at trial.
 
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DM was awakened at 4 am by sounds, after having been awake and chatting with roommates just hours before. At the max, there was noise from 4:10 to 4:20, but more likely, 4:11 to 4:17. Six minutes. Quiet before. Quiet after. Sounds that made no sense, state of alert leaving her unsure if it was altogether real or not.

He may have been upstairs for less than a minute, his initial attack complicated by the presence of KG, which awakened DM, which led to BK racing down the stairs to silence DM, but encountering XK instead, it's okay, I'm here to help you. Probably said that near her doorway where he realized he had yet another threat to contend with, EC.

BK spent 5 minutes in XK's room, by my maths.

4:00 XK gets her door dash food, shuts the slider
4:11 BK enters, leaves slider partially open
4:11 XK is in her room, on TikTok with her food
4:11 BK murders MM, lets go of the sheath, bludgeons KG
4:11 DM hears sounds upstairs, which she thinks must be LG and Murphy. I believe she yelled something to her roommates which BK also would have heard. XK might not have heard anything from upstairs or from DM because of her airport.
4:12 XK goes to the kitchen, sees the slider open, says there's someone here, DM hears her (DM thought KG said it but DM assigned all the sounds to KG, she didn't know XK was awake)
4:12 DM hears KG on the stairs. But it was actually BK going up the stairs at 4:11 and quickly back down, in under a minute IMO
4:12 BK sees XK returning to her room. She's a threat to his escape, can't let her call 911. He reaches her, perhaps from behind, quiets her whimper by saying calmly, it's okay, I'm here to help you
4:12 DM looks out her for, sees no one
4:12 XK drops her phone, no more activity on her phone from her
4:13 BK attacks XK. XK tries to stop the knife, is injured badly. BK steps over/around her to kill EC, XK cries, BK returns to her and mortally wounds her
4:14 I think BK may have sat for a moment, to gather his thoughts. Among many miscalculation that night, he may have felt like he'd put out three additional pop up fires and that there would be no more. From this vantage, he may have returned to EC to inflict gratuitous injury. The ME will know if the carving was pre or post mortem. Why do it? Sister's movie. In that movie, the victims were all strangled and each had initials carved in their chests, by a very large knife. This may have been BK's underlying script. From the moment he saw that movie, he may have fantasized about it. Based on his age at the time, it might have cross wired as a sexual fantasy which, into adulthood, he paired with the very SKs he studied. In other words, he always knew he'd do it (kill a girl as SA), and he always wondered how he would decide whom to kill. Hence, his Master's intetest and questionnaire.
4:16-:18:DM opens her door, sees BK
4:17 garbled sounds, THUD, barking dog.
4:19 DM starts calling/texting roommates
4:21 BK speeds away

JMO
I'm in agreement with most of this but curious why BK went back up the stairs after killing KG and MM.

Who/what was the thud? I thought it was Ethan.
The garbled sounds sounded like muffled shrieks to me. I thought BK rushed past DM's door after that. I also think he was totally focused on leaving because of all the noise in that house. If the camera across the street picked it up it was LOUD.


I think the dog barking was outside it was after the thud. Maybe we'll be lucky and someone walking their dog saw him.

5 minutes in XK ' s room is a long time. Maybe he went for Ethan once in the room after wounding XK but not badly enough to keep her from fighting him as well? A struggle with Ethan as soon as he was a threat because Ethan was a big strong man and BK knew he had to take him out first ?

Maybe BK sat down, if he did sit to take a moment listening to be certain the house was silent.
 
DM was awakened at 4 am by sounds, after having been awake and chatting with roommates just hours before. At the max, there was noise from 4:10 to 4:20, but more likely, 4:11 to 4:17. Six minutes. Quiet before. Quiet after. Sounds that made no sense, state of alert leaving her unsure if it was altogether real or not.

He may have been upstairs for less than a minute, his initial attack complicated by the presence of KG, which awakened DM, which led to BK racing down the stairs to silence DM, but encountering XK instead, it's okay, I'm here to help you. Probably said that near her doorway where he realized he had yet another threat to contend with, EC.

BK spent 5 minutes in XK's room, by my maths.

4:00 XK gets her door dash food, shuts the slider
4:11 BK enters, leaves slider partially open
4:11 XK is in her room, on TikTok with her food
4:11 BK murders MM, lets go of the sheath, bludgeons KG
4:11 DM hears sounds upstairs, which she thinks must be LG and Murphy. I believe she yelled something to her roommates which BK also would have heard. XK might not have heard anything from upstairs or from DM because of her airport.
4:12 XK goes to the kitchen, sees the slider open, says there's someone here, DM hears her (DM thought KG said it but DM assigned all the sounds to KG, she didn't know XK was awake)
4:12 DM hears KG on the stairs. But it was actually BK going up the stairs at 4:11 and quickly back down, in under a minute IMO
4:12 BK sees XK returning to her room. She's a threat to his escape, can't let her call 911. He reaches her, perhaps from behind, quiets her whimper by saying calmly, it's okay, I'm here to help you
4:12 DM looks out her for, sees no one
4:12 XK drops her phone, no more activity on her phone from her
4:13 BK attacks XK. XK tries to stop the knife, is injured badly. BK steps over/around her to kill EC, XK cries, BK returns to her and mortally wounds her
4:14 I think BK may have sat for a moment, to gather his thoughts. Among many miscalculation that night, he may have felt like he'd put out three additional pop up fires and that there would be no more. From this vantage, he may have returned to EC to inflict gratuitous injury. The ME will know if the carving was pre or post mortem. Why do it? Sister's movie. In that movie, the victims were all strangled and each had initials carved in their chests, by a very large knife. This may have been BK's underlying script. From the moment he saw that movie, he may have fantasized about it. Based on his age at the time, it might have cross wired as a sexual fantasy which, into adulthood, he paired with the very SKs he studied. In other words, he always knew he'd do it (kill a girl as SA), and he always wondered how he would decide whom to kill. Hence, his Master's intetest and questionnaire.
4:16-:18:DM opens her door, sees BK
4:17 garbled sounds, THUD, barking dog.
4:19 DM starts calling/texting roommates
4:21 BK speeds away

JMO
YES, very very close I think.

I agree about it being BK up and down the stairs and not Xana.,

I don't think that Xana would see the slider open and then run up the dark stairs alone. It makes more sense she'd stand and listen, say something out loud, like 'is someone here?

And then go to bedroom to wake up Ethan? But BK caught a glimpse of her and followed her ...
 
YES, very very close I think.

I agree about it being BK up and down the stairs and not Xana.,

I don't think that Xana would see the slider open and then run up the dark stairs alone. It makes more sense she'd stand and listen, say something out loud, like 'is someone here?

And then go to bedroom to wake up Ethan? But BK caught a glimpse of her and followed her ...
I can't think of a reason BK would go back up the stairs unless he heard something to make him think KG and or MM were not dead. At this point he may not have known if anyone else in the house was awake.
Moo.
 
I suspect Gray Hughes was inspired, in part at least, by the following:



Source: Order on Defendants Motion in Limine RE Vague and Undisclosed Expert Testimony

(III, F. Darren Gilbertson, p. 7)

IMO
"There is direct and indirect evidence that attempts were made by the suspect(s) to clean up the crime scene after the homicides."

I don't watch as many trials as many of you do. I feel blessed to be able to read here and keep up with things because of what so many others do. And thanks for all you do.

This little snippet is very interesting--what exactly was BK trying to clean up? It's not like he could clean up the blood from slaughtering 4 people?
 
While we wait for the judge's ruling, I'm trying to imagine how AT intends to frame this.

BK's DNA on the sheath.
But not his sheath?
Except Amazon.
So his sheath but someone else had it?
BK's Elantra but he wasn't stalking 1122. He was stargazing. In the middle of the city. 23 + 4 times, just couldn't find a good vantage point, especially in the fog.
BK lost his knife 300' from 1122.
And a pedestrian with bushy brybrows found it and decided to enter 1122 and kill people.
Realizing he lost his knife, BK searched Amazon for a replacement, just to have and to hold.
You can't trust 'bushy' anyway. Lots of people who find knives are tall, slim and brybrowed.

Seriously, where is she going to go with his defense?

JMO

That was a great attempt at explaining it away. Congrats on your creativity!
 
I'm in agreement with most of this but curious why BK went back up the stairs after killing KG and MM.

Who/what was the thud? I thought it was Ethan.
The garbled sounds sounded like muffled shrieks to me. I thought BK rushed past DM's door after that. I also think he was totally focused on leaving because of all the noise in that house. If the camera across the street picked it up it was LOUD.


I think the dog barking was outside it was after the thud. Maybe we'll be lucky and someone walking their dog saw him.

5 minutes in XK ' s room is a long time. Maybe he went for Ethan once in the room after wounding XK but not badly enough to keep her from fighting him as well? A struggle with Ethan as soon as he was a threat because Ethan was a big strong man and BK knew he had to take him out first ?

Maybe BK sat down, if he did sit to take a moment listening to be certain the house was silent.

I can't think of a reason BK would go back up the stairs unless he heard something to make him think KG and or MM were not dead. At this point he may not have known if anyone else in the house was awake.
Moo.
I didn't intend to suggest he went up the stairs twice. I incorporated both actions together. Going up at 4:11, back down within the minute. One trip.
 

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