4 Univ of Idaho Students Murdered, Bryan Kohberger Arrested, Moscow, Nov 2022 #97

[Warwick7]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1872313354028483040

 

[katydid23]

ABC News apparently is the media source of this new information and their reporter mentions that the defense will likely use this unsolved case to suggest that there was another break-in close by (in Pullman) with that suspect wearing a mask and with a knife just one year before the Idaho murders and that he could have been the perpetrator of the Idaho murders.

Video New twist in Idaho College murders case

Officials now say the suspect, Bryan Kohberger, was investigated in connection with an earlier home invasion.

abcnews.go.com

The main problem though, is this:

"...intruder entered the girls' Pullman home armed with a knife but fled after one of the girls kicked the intruder in the stomach. "

THAT^^^ does not sound like the intruder on King Street. A girl kicking him in the stomach would not have made this intruder wince and run away. He had physical fights with 4 victims and won them all.

 

[Boxer]

it's always sexually motivated. there is no other motive. unless it's something like infamy but it's still sexually a motivated attack mOO

Young man kills young women.
Same story every time.

 

[MassGuy]

BK's case has lots of Federal Warrants and a Federal Grand Jury which apparently investigated BK thoroughly and failed to indict him. Considering all the warrants, this means there must not have been enough evidence to indict. It also appears the FBI has backed off of BK as being a part of this case. The other thing all this FGJ stuff proves is that this case is not about a wannabe serial killer nor about some one acting on their own. FGJ's DO NOT handle those types of cases.

All JMO.

Or, there was simply no Federal crime to indict him on; it wouldn't matter how much evidence there was in that case. Knowing what we know now, I see nothing they could have charged him with.

There is absolutely no evidence the FBI has backed off BK as being part of this case. They're not stupid, and the evidence is overwhelming here. They passed off what they had to the jurisdiction that could prosecute him.

And I think it's more probable than not that this guy was in fact a wannabe serial killer, and nothing would preclude a Federal Grand Jury from investigating a guy like that if they had jurisdiction. Can you explain what you mean?

 

[Tarik]

it's always sexually motivated. there is no other motive. unless it's something like infamy but it's still sexually a motivated attack mOO

For who though and why would he murder 4 people for that? Usually in sexually motivated murders it is only one person (usually a woman) who gets murdered.

 

[PinkParis2052]

BK's case has lots of Federal Warrants and a Federal Grand Jury which apparently investigated BK thoroughly and failed to indict him. Considering all the warrants, this means there must not have been enough evidence to indict. It also appears the FBI has backed off of BK as being a part of this case. The other thing all this FGJ stuff proves is that this case is not about a wannabe serial killer nor about some one acting on their own. FGJ's DO NOT handle those types of cases.

All JMO.

It was reported that there was about 71 Federal Grand Jury subpoenas during the May 30, 2024 Motion to compel hearing which was mentioned by Elisa and it was reported by the Idaho Statesman newspaper too. Elisa said that some of the federal grand subpoenas were before Bryan was arrested and some were later after he was arrested and some were much later after his was arrested.

'I need to know where they are'; Kohberger defense says police haven't turned over videos, cell phone tower info in U of I murder case

MOSCOW, Idaho - Attorneys for suspected killer Bryan Kohberger called witnesses Thursday, hoping to compel more evidence be turned over in the case that supports his alibi.

www.applevalleynewsnow.com

Go to timestamp 2 hrs and 7 or 8 minutes when Elisa starts talking. I'm not sure when she mentioned the subpoenas but it's in there for sure. It's been awhile since I've watched this. Sorry.

At some point JJJ does ask Ashley Jennings about getting copies of the subpoenas to turnover to the defense and she said that they have asked for them and they were told that they can't been given to the Latah County prosecution office. JJJ does ask Ashley Jennings why and if that is normal. Elisa mentioned something about the Latah County prosecution office can do a Touhy (sp?) request.

All IMO.

 

[Swansee]

Umm so apparently the judge just dropped this today.
I wonder who is getting the subpoena duces tecum, and for what documents.

 

[katydid23]

For who though and why would he murder 4 people for that? Usually in sexually motivated murders it is only one person (usually a woman) who gets murdered.

Not necessarily. Ted Bundy did mass killings. Many serial type killers enjoy the violence of the attacks as much, if not more, than the actual SA. Sometimes they just do the killing portion because that's what satiates them.

 

[Balthazar]

That is a totally useless defense IMO. Shows they have next to nothing.

IMO the defense would not use that as it has nothing to do with the case whatsoever.

 

[LinasK]

it's always sexually motivated. there is no other motive. unless it's something like infamy but it's still sexually a motivated attack mOO

Yup, AFAIK, he targeted one of the girls and the other victims were collateral damage to him.

 

[whiterhino]

Yup, AFAIK, he targeted one of the girls and the other victims were collateral damage to him.

JMHO sounds like obsession yet there hasn't been any evidence of stalking (that we know of yet).

 

[Balthazar]

I must have missed all the Federal Warrants and the Federal Grand Jury stuff concerning BK.
Could you supply some links or point me in the right direction so I can read up on it all.
Thanks.

https://www.idahostatesman.com/news/local/crime/article288862752.html

Then watch the hearings from last May. Elisa Massoth discussed this in court.





These were discussed in hearings back in May, 2024.

 

[Nila Aella]

Case summary page

12/27/2024 Motion to Compel Motion to Compel ICT 16(b)(7) Material and for Sanctions
12/27/2024 Supplemental Request for Discovery
21st Supplemental request for discovery

https://s3.us-west-2.amazonaws.com/isc.coi/CR01-24-31665/Summary/Case-Summary-Kohberger-12272024.pdf

 

[minazoe]

Yup, AFAIK, he targeted one of the girls and the other victims were collateral damage to him.

Bundy, Speck, Kohberger.

 

[Balthazar]

Yup, AFAIK, he targeted one of the girls and the other victims were collateral damage to him.

Absolutely not. There is no evidence of that, no evidence BK knew or knew of any of the victims. Rewatch the hearings from last May. This is NOT the kind of case you think it is.

 

[TexLil]

DBM (updated article supercedes one previously posted)

 

[PinkParis2052]

Accused Idaho Killer Bryan Kohberger Repeatedly Messaged One of the Victims on Instagram: Source

"He was persistent," an investigative source on the case tells PEOPLE

people.com

During the hearings to decide if the defense will be able to continue their survey in preparation of change of venue hearings, the Latah County Prosector Bill Thompson and the Judge Judge confirmed that Bryan didn't stalk any of the victims in April 2024.

Prosecutor: Bryan Kohberger, Idaho college student homicide suspect, did not stalk victim
Read more at: https://www.idahostatesman.com/news/local/crime/article287556325.html#storylink=cpy

https://www.idahostatesman.com/news/local/crime/article287556325.html

 

[I am not Sherlock H.]

IANAL….. on the matter of whether or not there might have been ‘contact’ by the suspect BK with a resident(s) in the house before the slayings - have to wonder how much stock can be placed at this point pre-trial in any revelations by the prosecution or defense since there is IIUC a gag order in place in this case.

Seems some articles on this refer to terms including contact, message, or stalk. Those terms could differ in meaning perhaps? Look forward to this case being tried publicly and evidence entered in court against the suspect BK. MOO

 

[LinasK]

Absolutely not. There is no evidence of that, no evidence BK knew or knew of any of the victims. Rewatch the hearings from last May. This is NOT the kind of case you think it is.

A stranger doesn't have to know a person to target them.

 

[MassGuy]

Absolutely not. There is no evidence of that, no evidence BK knew or knew of any of the victims. Rewatch the hearings from last May. This is NOT the kind of case you think it is.

Common sense says that's exactly what happened. He didnt' have to "know" one of these victims, but I think it's very likely one of them caught his eye.

That's what happened in the Jayme Closs case. The offender saw her getting off the bus and decided to blow her parents head off with a shotgun at a later date. All to achieve his goal. Her.

I think this guy had one main target, but his goal in general was women. He hated them, likely because he had been rejected in the past.