Abby & Libby - The Delphi Murders - Richard Allen Arrested - #205

[Bergmann]

Why does it look like he is wearing a Hawaii shirt on a deckchair with sunglassss?

He's booked a holiday in the sun once he's acquitted? (Joke!)

 

[arielilane]

Interesting all the facial hair is gone. For years he's always had facial hair, right? moo

 

[MTW2011]

part bolded by me.

if I may ask (and I am still trying to catch up through a variety of sources reporting on this trial due to the no media rules…) but what testimony indicated that Abby “bolt(ed)”? Did only she try to run? If so, is their testimony explaining their theory on how one of the girls was running away and perpetrator gained control of them both?

I'm sorry, I can't agree with what your questions are implying because there's absolutely no evidence that's been delivered in testimony that put's anyone but BG on that bridge with the girl's.

LE tech did not "play with" the video's depth perception to make it seem he was the one (when he wasn't) speaking those words to the girls and then kidnapping those girls down the hill to their deaths. There's been absolutely no evidence of that tech deception in testimony. BG was close enough to Abby to make her bolt even though it was her first time on that dangerous bridge. That's my opinion. That's what's the evidence presented has convinced me of.

All just my opinion. We've never even seen the entire original video nor the enhanced one to judge it ourselves, with our own eyes. I rely on the testimony of LE's tech investigators. I don't believe anything but honest work was done to enhancing that video to try and catch a child murderer...to protect and serve. MHO

I’m just trying to understand where I can find what you said in the testimony, so please don’t think it’s me being argumentative. If this is explained by a certain witness I’d like to go and try to focus in on that part(s). Thank you in advance and always JMOO

 

[girlhasnoname]

Regardless, it shows that he was very comfortable on that bridge.

As supported by all of the bridge photos and bridge information found by LE during the SW. RA had a thing for the bridge. IMO

 

[BUF]

Interesting all the facial hair is gone. For years he's always had facial hair, right? moo

Yep, trimmed beard, long beard, defined differently….but never no beard.
His weight has also fluctuated.

 

[tlcya]

Not just the crime scene though. To have not found DNA of any kind linking the girl to a suspect's car/ home/ belongings is equally worrying, unless that is yet to be covered.

JMO

why would anyone expect to find the DNA from the girls in RA's car/home/or belongings? Nobody has suggested the girls were ever in his car home or touched his belongings that I know of. I am disappointed but not surprised that RA's DNA was not found at the crime scene. Many violent offenders leave no DNA at the scenes of their crimes. I am thankful that a cartridge that was cycled through his gun was.

 

[Bergmann]

Surprised this snippet hasn't been picked up on more from Stacy Boziniski -

Quoted by @arielilane who was quoting @MaxLewisTV

Swabs from the girls indicated possible semen but no semen detected

I'd love to understand more about what this means (and what it doesn't too, there's quite enough unhelpful speculation as it is!)

 

[Bergmann]

why would anyone expect to find the DNA from the girls in RA's car/home/or belongings? Nobody has suggested the girls were ever in his car home or touched his belongings that I know of.

Transfer.

 

[pearl]

This would be the hardest part for me. They are hearing all this stuff that has to be so hard to digest. We have all heard about this case for years and discussed ever detail over and over and then we still need to discuss more when the reports start coming in from each day. I can't imagine not being able to get out all the things that have to be stirring in their minds. I would want/need to talk about it.

Discussing the trial info during the trial period and before jury deliberations is strictly taboo. Jurors in all trials are told to specifically not to do this. Attempting to discuss the trial info before deliberations is a guaranteed ticket out of the jury duty.

 

[FrostedGlass]

I suggest the military background could potentially aid in his ability to navigate away from the CS, going N to cemetery & from there his options can be one of a few which we’ve already discussed. He is more used to navigating difficult terrain & is more likely to have knowledge & experience at avoiding detection, etc. He’s not just an average IN person walking through a muddy field or along a road with patches of trees/cover available for hiding. He’s been trained to avoid being seen, avoid being shot & knows how to take cover. I have a feeling that once he was seen, he stopped using 300N as his primary path. Could you imagine what might have unfolded had all P alleged events happened except for SC driving by that day?

Assumption & speculation & JMO

You asked me this question and I'm having a hard time answering.
"Could you imagine what might have unfolded had all P alleged events happened except for SC driving by that day?"

When the PCA came out, I believed what was said. Then came the D's version, loaded with citations, page numbers, minute markers and that weighed heavily. Then I listened to all the background noise (liars, clowns, twisters) and gave that some weight.

Now comes SC's testimony, filled with inconsistencies and proof of some of the D statements were true. Now I have to question all the rest of her statements. If I was a juror, only knowing what we know at this time, I wouldn't find her credible.

How do you imagine things would have unfolded?

 

[Bergmann]

I am thankful that a cartridge that was cycled through his gun was.

Not proven IMO. It could have been his gun but the expert could not exclude other guns.

 

[SouthEnd]

What do you have against Charles Schultz?

Look, some of us are allergic to peanuts!

I joke, I joke.

RE: Sketches, I find it fascinating that 2 different sketch artists create such impossibly different depictions of RA. Yes, the 2nd one is very detailed, but I honestly would not be able to recognise RA without the context. That's why I find sketches being used as evidence (instead of just an investigation tool)... very, very soft.

All MOO!

 

[WildHuncher]

Surprised this snippet hasn't been picked up on more from Stacy Boziniski -

Quoted by @arielilane who was quoting @MaxLewisTV


I'd love to understand more about what this means (and what it doesn't too, there's quite enough unhelpful speculation as it is!)

The wording suggests to me some preliminary indication (color change!??) that didn’t prove out in lab testing. But I know nothing from those kits.

 

[girlhasnoname]

Why does it look like he is wearing a Hawaii shirt on a deckchair with sunglassss?

This is the new confident, cool Rick 2.0 look, not the meek mild CVS worker, alleged child murderer Rick 1.0 look. A lot of thought and analysis has been put in determining the best possible way to have RA dress and present himself during trial.

RA won't look anything like BG and he certainly won't be wearing anything closely resembling the good ole' Midwestern boy wardrobe look either. The Defense says they all look the same basically, and anyone could have been BG. Notwithstanding that RA says he was on MHB wearing the same clothes that day.

MOO

 

[ClearAhead]

Don’t we usually see defendants showing up with glasses at trial?
I guess RA’a glasses are just a prop as they are always described as perched on his head.

I wonder if the perched glasses aid in disregarding his staring/glaring at people which TMS have mentioned from time to time?

 

[BUF]

Discussing the trial info during the trial period and before jury deliberations is strictly taboo. Jurors in all trials are told to specifically not to do this. Attempting to discuss the trial info before deliberations is a guaranteed ticket out of the jury duty.

Everywhere else, but apparently not in Indiana. Someone posted this upthread.

 

[Megnut]

Why does it look like he is wearing a Hawaii shirt on a deckchair with sunglassss?

Perfectly harmless.

Staged.

But then, he's not a danger in that room.

If he's guilty of what he's charged with, he's only dangerous on remote settings and to vulnerable little girls.

I'm going to guess that his beachy attire will stand in strong contrast to his stark confessions.

JMO

 

[m00c0w]

Not just the crime scene though. To have not found DNA of any kind linking the girl to a suspect's car/ home/ belongings is equally worrying, unless that is yet to be covered.

JMO

I don’t find it that strange. It was 5.5 years after the fact. DNA degrades quickly in high temperature environments (such as the inside of a car in the summer), and even quicker if there is UV exposure. If he never brought anything with DNA on it into the house, there would be no reason for DNA to be there.

What we do now know is that there was also no other male DNA found at the crime scene. If RA didn’t do it because there’s no DNA there, neither did a group of kidnappers. (Not saying that’s your theory, just a general statement regarding the defense’s theory)

https://www.ojp.gov/pdffiles1/nij/grants/304991.pdf

JMO

 

[INfisherman]

Defense said "BG" said "Girls', down the hill," in their opening.

Aaaaaaaannnnndddd cue the circus music!

 

[SouthEnd]

That’s shocking to me. They don’t have RA dna or anyone’s dna. Killers everywhere will study this to figure out how the killer did this. Moo.

Isn't that the same thing ppl were saying in the Adnan Syed case? How it couldn't be just a kid who's done it, because no DNA?

Just a misconception, IMO.

Attackers leave behind DNA in less than 10% of the cases - and that was the data in 2003 when less criminals were aware that they should be covering their body. DNA and Wrongful Conviction: Five Facts You Should Know - Innocence Project

RSBM
Attackers leave behind DNA evidence in less than 10% of murders.